Talk:Thom Yorke

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Former good article nomineeThom Yorke was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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June 29, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed

New page Dajana Roncione[edit]

I would like to open the new page Dajana Roncione, but I cannot, because this Dajana Roncione is already a redirecting of the page Thom Yorke.

The reason is that, perhaps, that Dajana is the wife of Thom. But I don't think this "commercial redirecting" is correct; so I can open the page only with Dajana Roncione (actress). This can be a diplomatic solution, but I don't find correct to redirect a name with another name.

Thank you

Rei Momo (talk) 18:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rei Momo, to make a page, you need to have sources showing that Roncione is notable for things other than her connection to Thom Yorke. Popcornfud (talk) 18:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Popcornfud, you are right! What I don't find correct is that her wife redirects her name in his page. Thanks for your last replay, sincerely Rei Momo (talk) 18:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Opening Line of "Artistry"[edit]

This doesn't make much sense to me. What a "typical" Radiohead song isn't clear, and most Radiohead songs do not start this way. What a "sketch" is is also not clear. I think this should be rewritten or removed altogether. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Healpa12 (talkcontribs) 07:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This information is cited to an article by journalist Alex Ross:
A Radiohead song is usually written in three stages. First, Yorke comes up with a rough sketch; then Jonny, who studied classical composition in school, fleshes out the harmony; finally, the others digest it for a while, working out their parts on their own. It can be months, even years, before a song comes together in a way that satisfies all of them.
I'd say it provides relevant information about how Thom Yorke and Radiohead create music. This is a reliable source and it literally says Radiohead songs are "usually written" this way, so we'll need another reliable source if we want to say otherwise.
The text in the article to me is clear, but if you have any suggestions for clearer wording, by all means share. Popcornfud (talk) 12:08, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I see, I originally took the statement to be talking about the way a finished Radiohead song sounds, not the process through which they are created. Healpa12 (talk) 23:20, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point, thanks for the feedback. I’ve tweaked it. Popcornfud (talk) 14:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change[edit]

Hi Popcornfud, can you please explain why Thom’s support for Extinction Rebellion has nothing to do with climate change in your eyes? This is the edit in question: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1057014305 I have the impression that Thom is very concerned about the climate catastrophe and for that reason selected the movement as beneficiary. Thanks, —Daveboy123 (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. That section should focus specifically on climate change topics that are specifically related to Thom Yorke. The bulk of the information I removed there is about the hack and subsequent Bandcamp release of the MiniDiscs album; the Extinction Rebellion thing is secondary. That section already has a lot of information about Yorke and climate change, and that story doesn't seem like a particularly notable example. Popcornfud (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

February 2022[edit]

Adding this quote in green at the end of this sentence: Seeing Siouxsie Sioux in concert at the Apollo in 1985 inspired him to become a performer: "I'd never seen anyone manage to captivate an audience like she did... It was an amazing show" basing on these two sources[1], seems to highly annoy a super fan Popcornfud who has put their stamp on this article. Primary sources are perfectly acceptable and reliable to submit a quote in a biography when a footnote with the entire quote is included in the source. Iennes (talk) 22:49, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like you're the "highly annoyed" one here, no?
First, that isn't actually a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE, or a secondary source. It's a fan-uploaded recording of a copyrighted interview, uploaded to YouTube.
Secondly, and this is the bigger thing, I'm not sure what you see as particularly valuable about that quote; it seems to me the meat the statement here can be paraphrased sufficiently, per MOS:QUOTE. Presumably Yorke thought it was an "amazing show" or he wouldn't have found it inspiring. Popcornfud (talk) 22:56, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
BBC's official link is on. And even without an official audio link, one can include a primary source when including a footnote in the source with the actual quote of the artist, plus the timing when the quote is said. Iennes (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Everitt, Matt (11 June 2017). "BBC Radio 6 Music, The First Time With Thom (broadcast on 11 June 2017)". YouTube. Retrieved 2 February 2021. Q: Do you remember thinking I could see myself.. [Thom:]I didn't really think that until I saw Siouxsie and the Banshees at the Apollo [...] That one completely blew my mind [...]I'd never seen anyone manage to captivate an audience like she did. [...] They were amazing to watch. [...] It was an amazing show.