Talk:Thomas Icely

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Carcoar[edit]

The timeline appears to be:

before 1831: Coombing Park estate; see K. J. Cable, "Icely, Thomas (1797–1874)", Australian Dictionary of Biography, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, accessed 22 September 2011.

1839 Carcoar: "The growth of population created by Thomas Icely's Coombing Park property led to the establishment of the town of Carcoar in 1839.""Carcoar". Blayney Town & Around. Retrieved 5 October 2011.

1876 Mandurama, New South Wales

Please do not edit without discussing here first - especially if you are anonymous. Otherthinker (talk) 05:47, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The timeline, however, doesn't equate fact. While Carcoar may have 'led to', but it misses the fact that Mandurama was actual founded as a service centre for Coombing Park. http://www.smh.com.au/news/New-South-Wales/Carcoar/2005/02/17/1108500193253.html I'll change it back. 150.203.188.118 (talk) 14:15, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. This is an article about Thomas Icely, not about Coombing Park, Carcoar nor Mandurama, New South Wales.

2. Your source, "Carcoar". Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 17 October 2011. The first land grant was 'Coombing Park' issued to Thomas Icely in 1829. In 1838 he requested that the village of Carcoar be established to service his large pastoral estate. supports the original text. With respect to Mandurama, it says "It began, in the mid-19th century, as a village for the workers on the Icely estate and developed into a service centre for the surrounding farmlands." which does not support your edit that Mandurama was founded in 1876.

3. This source "Mandurama". Blayney Town & Around. Retrieved 17 October 2011. In 1831 Thomas Icely a prominent pastoralist with the property Saltram near Bathurst purchased additional land and obtained a grant, further west, which he called Coombing Park. Icely had also received a free grant in 1831 of 3440 acres which he called Mandurama. Around 1870 part of Coombing Park (under the management of Thomas Icely's eldest son Thomas Rothery Icely) was sold to John Fagan who named his station Sunny Ridge. The 60,000 Sunny Ridge property originally included the Mandurama town site. Both Coombing Park and Sunny Ridge properties continue on today. Mandurama grew to be a service centre for the surrounding pastoral areas. suggests that the name "Mandurama" originated with Tomas Icely but that the town of Mandurama owes its existence to the likes of Thomas Rothery Icely and John Fagan.

I propose to revise in these terms.Otherthinker (talk) 08:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]