Talk:Tom King (footballer, born 1995)

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Did you know... that Guiseley A.F.C. were accused of "disgraceful unsporting behaviour" when a player broke an unwritten fair-play convention to score past goalkeeper Tom King?

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Wha....?[edit]

The description of the "controversial play" is incomprehensible.

"He conceded the equalising goal after Oliver Norburn broke a fair play protocol and lobbed him from 30-yards out rather than passing the ball to him, after Braintree had kicked the ball into touch to allow a Guiseley player to receive treatment; a five-minute fracas followed but the goal was allowed to stand after security staff separated the players and management, and Guiseley manager Mark Bower refused to allow Braintree to walk through and score."

What fair play protocol? How do you lob a goalkeeper. or is it the ball that is lobbed? What does kick "the ball into touch" mean? Why did the Guiseley player need treatment, was it medical treatment or some other kind, and what does that have to do with kicking "the ball into touch"? How could Braintree "walk through and score"? The "after Oliver Norburn... after Braintree" construction of this sentence is befuddling. It is not clear which event came after the other. It appears that some of these phrases are Britishisms that are not used by soccer players in the United States.

The comes the quote from Mark Bower: "Their keeper stood there with his arms in the air and allowed the ball to into [sic] the net. It put us in a really difficult position whether we should allow them to score or not but we decided no. I think their keeper was trying to be clever and had simply let the ball go in." Why on earth would you allow the other team to score? Why was the keeper just standing there and not defending the goal? How is that "clever"? The entire description is vexing and baffling. 173.174.85.204 (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC)Eric[reply]

Some of the phrases are probably Britishisms (although that word certainly isn't :) but I'm English and it makes no sense to me either.

What I _think_ happened from it (see the reference, as well) is - a Guiseley player fell down or something; officially it doesn't stop play. Kicking the ball off the field is an action that stops play though, and the other team get the ball because usually it was a mistake. "Fair play" here is that the man with the ball, seeing the incident, stops play by kicking the ball off the field to stop the game so that the injured player can be treated. Now this obviously gives the ball to the other team when play restarts, so, also in the spirit of fairness, it's expected that they give the ball back to the team that stopped play.

However in this case they took advantage of having the ball to try and score, and since the goalie expected them to do the right thing, he didn't see it coming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.180.168 (talk) 17:53, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone explain how is this statement a contrary[edit]

{{Help}} " He represented the England Under 17 team but chose to represent Wales at senior level, qualifying through his Welsh mother. He received his first call-up to the senior Wales squad in November 2019."

This is rather a statement of opting rather than "but" as he had the option to senior w/wales rather than England U17.2603:8000:D300:3650:9DA8:FB55:6D4D:173E (talk) 00:44, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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