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Assessment[edit]

The good content in the top half of the article holds it in the B class, however it misses some points that B class articles should have. I feel that some sections below 'Workforce' need expansion, and this article REALLY needs a reference section chock full of references before going beyond B class, before even considering GA or A or beyond.

That aside, it is shaping up to be a good article, has a good number of pictures and covers all the bases (albeit some not covered quite enough). The project will keep an eye on this one.--SGGH 15:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Featured Article?[edit]

I notice that the history section refers to the previous City of York police members as "special constables". The reference article given does not support this. Also, most histories refer to previous police as common law constables or common law volunteer/conscript constables. I have not changed it for now as I do not have a reference handy. This should be changed as the position of special constable may not have existed then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120881hr (talk • contribs) 23:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just checking out some city police department articles and thought I'd leave some feedback on this one. I did a little tweaking here, hopefully making it read better. I also removed this statement: "until the early 20th Century when crime fighting became the primary function of the department." From my reading, crime fighting has never been the primary function of any police department and that that is simply a (very pervasive) myth. If my sources are wrong, please use a citation when sticking that back in. Some general comments on this article:

  • over all, it looks pretty good, and could perhaps be a featured article at some point. I've not got a lot of time, but will try to get around to improvements if I can. If someone else wants to jump in, here's some suggestions.
  • right now, the history section overwhelms the article. It's a fascinating history, so instead of chopping it down, make it a seperate article and summarize that for the main TPS article.
  • History section reads well and is engaging, but needs more sources besides Vronsky's stuff. There's quite a bit out there in hard copies if anyone wants to do some leg work. Greg Marquis in particular has written a wheelbarrow full of material, including his PhD thesis. Right now, it's more of a book report, and I think any interested reader would be more likely to just stay on Vronsky's site if they were interested in reading about this history. Some subheadings would also help the history section.
  • More photos. Surely someone living in TO coud snap some of the coppers with a digital camera.
  • I'd suggest working on some of this and then submitting it to the Wiki-ocracy for feedback on how else to get it to feature-status material.

There's my 2 cents. Hopefully someone else will jump in so this won't just be a 'note to self.'Bobanny 18:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Drug squad investigation?[edit]

Some mention of the Toronto PD Drug Squad investigation might be worthwhile. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 20:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Organization[edit]

Revamped the Organization part and added both Detective, Operational and Community Mobilization Services. - Comm, 11 June 2008. 4:52 p.m.

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Vandalism removed from article[edit]

Today I looked at this article and found it redirected to images hosted on a non-Wikimedia server, so I edited to remove all links to the server, www.russianbooks.org -- see the History page of this article for details. cheers, Madmagic (talk) 17:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 2011 - Request for assistance in cleanup[edit]

I have re-organized the sections with in the article to give the article a more logical flow (it appeared to have been formatted that new headings were just placed at the bottom, and were never integrated into the article, with a greater emphasis placed on the types of vehicles the force uses, than on some of the civilian operating divisions such as court services, parking enforcement etc.). The article however still requires some heavy copy-editing, and perhaps the cutting down of the history section, with a new article being created that deals with the history of the Toronto/Metro Toronto/Pre-Metro Toronto Policing agencies. This would significantly clean up the size issues. Copy edit should also be done on the controversies section which likely needs more sources if it is to stay in its current incarnation. The Court Services section should also be shortened, or with proper sources a separate article could also be created for that section as there does seem to be alot of (unreferenced) information that may be valuable to the reader.

These are just some suggestions, I can poke away at it every once and a while, but input from other editors on how to proceed, and help with the copy editing would be greatly appreciated.

eja2k 14:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2010 G8 Meetings[edit]

Under criticism, there really should be some coverage of the G8 meetings in Summer 2010, it was national news in Canada for months — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.42.70 (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV?[edit]

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This article, and specifically the History section, does not appear to adhere to the Wikipedia policy on neutral point of view (NPOV). Specifically, despite ostensibly being an article on a police service, neither the history section or any other section makes any mention at all of any of the policing or crime-fighting activities of the Toronto Police Service other than a single mention of "arresting drunks, prostitutes, disorderlies, and violators of Toronto’s ultra-strict Sunday blue law." In fact, the article appears to have been tailored specifically to corroborate the opinion of Wikipedia editor Bobanny that "crime fighting has never been the primary function of any police department and that that is simply a (very pervasive) myth" as stated above.

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As such, the history section contains only incidents that reflect negatively on the police force, and thus gives undue weight to this fringe point of view. No countervailing mainstream point of view is presented at all. AlanSiegrist (talk) 15:47, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the "reader feedback" for this article also mentions that this anonymous reader is "[c]oncerned about the extremely negative view in the history "section"" and I believe that this concern is legitimate and should be respected. AlanSiegrist (talk) 15:47, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The history is sadly typical of most police forces around the world. The police were created to protect the rich from the poor. What is stated in this article is NOT a fringe point of view. It's just bad luck if you don't like to hear the truth.--Weasel tango (talk) 10:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mounted Unit list out of date[edit]

Some of those horses have retired and the list is not currently correct. I work in the same building as them (but not for/with them), so can I just update the list correctly? I don't know if there's a single place to reference this though. Barring any better ideas, I'll do that.FlyingLeadChange (talk) 09:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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the logo used has a beaver on top a a design used in the healthcare profession. Is there any documentation regarding the use of the healthcare logo i.e. mental health history and use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.140.252 (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See caduceus. It means the police are protectors of commerce, as now stated in the article. The medical symbol is different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.58.246.35 (talk) 16:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Corruption and misconduct section[edit]

Current "Controversies and allegations of misconduct" section should be its own section, and should not be part of the history section. As in New York City Police Department article, it should be titled Corruption and misconduct as there are many proven cases of corruption and misconduct. --Natkeeran (talk) 15:19, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Very fishy numbers, who vandalized?[edit]

Something is really fishy with your numbers in the infobox. It stated it had 30,000 sworn officers and 12,000 unsworn, and total number is supposed to be 42,000. In truth the source quoted for the 30,000 makes no mention of that number, and in the body of the article the number is 5,400 which is more likely. I fixed the infobox line for sworn officers, but the other numbers should be fixed too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.153.53 (talk) 02:48, 29 May 2016 (UTC) The article was vandalized and I restored the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.153.53 (talk) 16:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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2010 G20 Protests - Not Mentioned in the Article[edit]

Although there is a separate page for the G20 protests, shouldn't there be some sort of reference to it in the history section under "Controversies and allegations of misconduct"? It was a significant event in which the police force was involved and should be highlighted in the article.Tiffdmo14 (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hobocop campaign[edit]

Perhaps there is useful information on the Hobocop campaign Wikipedia article that could be added here? --QueenofBithynia (talk) 19:53, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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