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wow, here and here are another two papers I can only seethe abstract of which might be helpful. Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I happen to have the first (got a subscription last year) and will check it out soon. This might be a candidate for ITN, never done one of those before... Sasata (talk) 19:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Three toxic amino acids? Or three toxic peptides?[edit]

Peptides are short chains of amino acids; the two terms are not synonymous. Many naturally occurring toxins have turned out to be peptides.

This article refers to a news article on the BBC web site, but that's not a definitive source of such information. Journalists often confuse terms like "amino acid" and "peptide", in my experience.

Judging from the abstract at http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/329/5988/132 , there's a better article at http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/329/5988/132 but it's behind a paywall. If someone has access, look it up and see if it makes clear whether we should be using "amino acids" or "peptides" to categorize these toxins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Floozybackloves (talkcontribs) 14:06, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've read the paper (it's actually a news report rather than a study) and it definitely says they are toxic amino acids. AFAIK no peptides would be toxic to eat as they would be digested, it only things like snake venom, which get into the blood which could be toxic peptides. Smartse (talk) 14:16, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]