Talk:Tuang Pik King

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Notability[edit]

@SeriManjung: - can you provide sources - WP:RS - that demonstrate Tuang Pik King's notability?Icewhiz (talk) 14:30, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

http://whatalulu.blogspot.com/2007/10/lulus-dedication-to-all-ops-lalang_27.html

This one lists him at #7 and as the vice president of a major minority-rights association in Malaysia at the time — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriManjung (talk • contribs) 14:45, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But that's a blog - that doesn't establish notability. And being "Vice President of Jian Zong, the United Chinese School Teachers Association of Malaysia, Principal of Confucian High School, KL" - wouldn't either. Is there any significant coverage (also non-English) of him ? An few in-depth pieces that cover him as a topic at length?Icewhiz (talk) 14:57, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

https://llgcultural.com/en/lim-fong-seng-a-visionary-chinese-educationist-2/ This one, while being a blog, is written by Kua Kia Soong, SUARAM leader, which is a reputable organisation for human rights in Malaysia. He states that Tuang Pik King was one of just four Chinese community leaders arrested and detained under the Internal Security Act. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriManjung (talk • contribs) 15:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This source does not help you - it is a passing mention - it does not establish notability for standalone (with a RS saying this - you could perhaps add this to an appropriate article).Icewhiz (talk) 15:25, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

“The Contribution of Tuang Pik King on Chinese Education” is also an entire chapter in the "Hundred years of Outstanding Figures and Events in Confusion Private Secondary Schools" book which focuses on his achievements within this community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriManjung (talk • contribs) 15:13, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is would be good source (a 6 page book chapter or essay on Tuang Pik King) - however who published this? You are pointing at Lew Bon Hoi's CV, but not at the book - and I'm unable to find the book (online at least) - perhaps it is a non-English book and this is the translated title? If so- if you chase down this book chapter/essay - it would be significant in terms of establishing notability. Icewhiz (talk) 15:25, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to find this text — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriManjung (talk • contribs) 15:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.mcldl.com/library/book/a1dou3degu4shi4 <--This one I believe. It is in Chinese, not English, but a PDF is available of the whole book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriManjung (talk • contribs) 22:57, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you are able to verify this source (I am not - Chinese is beyond my skill set) - then I suggest you add it as a reference . Another question, is Tuang Pik King alive or dead? Out text suggests he is dead with a "was", but this is not sourced. This is important to source due to BLP policy.Icewhiz (talk) 03:24, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also - if you have a rendering of his name in Chinese characters - that would be useful for anyone else looking for material.Icewhiz (talk) 05:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This book describes many of Tuang Pik King's philosophies, as well as many of his criticisms of Anwar Ibrahim and many then government officials, primarily against the Ministry of Education, and also describes him as a Malaysian scholar, writer, and educator. I believe he is still alive, I will find sources on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriManjung (talk • contribs) 09:37, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]