Talk:Twelve-Factor App methodology

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Software, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of software on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SoftwareWikipedia:WikiProject SoftwareTemplate:WikiProject Softwaresoftware articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Computing.

Article Creation[edit]

Obsserved this methodology was missing from wikipedia. I've crated something between a stub and a start class which hopefully is a good start point. H I'm time limited on this to the 2 hours before sunrise. I might tweak the article it later but hopefully others will improve it.

Article title[edit]

Their were various possible variations for the article title ... 12/Twelve factor/Factor app/application/App/Application. There may be a case for a redirect for some of these variations or there may be a strong consensus to rename the title and I am likely to support the consensus decision. Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional?[edit]

While (in my professional capacity) I feel this is all very good advice, the existence of this page appears to be promotional for Adam Wiggins and his website. Are there any independent references about this methodology? If not, this must be merged into a page on cloud infrastructure best practices, or the like. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1. As author of this page I would like to confirm I have no association with Adam Wiggins and his website or for Heroku and not have been paid by them (or anyone) for this article. 2. As far as I am aware the IBM Redbook reference is independent and the majority of the description of the methodology comes from that (Having said that that reference was Java orientated so a little was also taken from the primary document). Googling also appears to show a wide range of blogs / presentations referencing the method from a variety of sources. Some of these criticise the methodology or say how it fits (or does not fit) with the Docker for example or how one or two of the factors may be more applicable specifically to the Heroku platform. As such the methodology is out there beyond Wiggins or Heroku. 3: There is an O'Reilly "publication" 'Beyond the 12-factor app' however I felt that was too orientated towards Dynatrace promotion. 4: If there was a 'Cloud Infrastructure Best Practices' page (I'm not wiring it!) the Twelve-factor app methodology should like be at least referenced from it .... my initial thoughts are it might not fit well in the page. But I'll go with concensus Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:40, 22 December 2017 (UTC) 5: I have discovered Cloud Native Applications in Java PACKT ISBN-13: 978-1787124349 (by Ajay Mahajan (Author),‎ Munish Kumar Gupta (Author) ) due publication 8 January 2018 also references the 12 Factor App. I have not seen the content but would understand it is likely to be a citable reference.Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:00, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've mulled it over and started a criticism and adaptation section. Hopefully this begins to solve the promotional issue and allows for more balance. Really welcome for someone more into this to improve the article.09:38, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

OK, that's enough sourcing for a stand-alone article (especially since I don't think the merge target exists). I'm considering renaming this to Twelve-factor development methodology or something once I determine what the common name is, and may add material that I find. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've chosen to suggest Twelve-Factor App methodology and I'm supportive of that. Thanks for reviewing and improving the article.Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:31, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]