Talk:U.S. Route 25 in Ohio

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Short description[edit]

@Imzadi1979: The current Short description is Former section of U.S. Numbered Highway in Ohio, United States which is too long — at 62 characters. The change to Former section of highway in Ohio, US would reduce this to 37 characters – which matches the guidelines for such things — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 17:36, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are hundreds of similar articles that use the form "Section of U.S. Numbered Highway in <state>, United States". I've argued that including the country is redundant to the type in this case, but others have said it's needed. We always should include the proper type of highway in these descriptions. Imzadi 1979 → 17:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just matching other articles is not a valid reason to break guidlines. If there is a category of articles that all need to be fixed, then we can set a bot to do it or we have tools like AWB to make bulk changes fairly simply. If this is part of a bigger problem, where is the correct place to discuss the changes? — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 17:53, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

US 25 in Ohio accuracy[edit]

Moved from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads § US 25 in Ohio accuracy

– Imzadi 1979 → 17:35, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Route 25 in Ohio says that the route entered Ohio from the Brent Spence Bridge when the route was decommissioned in Ohio. How could it have entered Ohio from a freeway bridge if it ends on the Clay Wade Bailey Bridge today? Did AASHTO approve removing the route from a part of I-75 in Kentucky just so that it could end on a different bridge at the state line? --Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 03:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked up US 25 on the KTC website, they put it on the Bailey Bridge, not the Spence Bridge. –Fredddie ™ 05:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the 1972 and 1973 Ohio maps aren't helpful as we would like because the PDF scans lack any city insets, but we can tell a few things. US 25 is missing from the 1973 map in the Cincinnati area; it only appears outside of the metro area. Turning to the 1972 map, US 25 is shown in Kentucky running parallel to I-71/I-75 and then merging with US 42/US 127. North of the Ohio River, we have US 25/US 42 on one routing and US 27/US 127 on another north a point in Cincinnati. Farther north, US 25 is shown overlapping I-75 and US 42 is running parallel. I-75/US 25 continue together until south of Bowling Green where US 25 leaves the freeway and runs separately into Toledo and up to Michigan. Kentucky's 1973 map helps clarify that this is the case.

So based on this, it looks like US 25 did not use the Brent Spence Bridge at any point. Rather, I think the IP address that initially built the exit list table took a shortcut and just copied information from the I-75 article from the Ohio River north to Bowling Green and then used the SR 25 article for the remainder, without consulting period maps for verification. Imzadi 1979 → 04:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Following up, the only reason I haven't tried fixing the article myself is that I have a little uncertainty about the connection used between US 42 and I-75. I'm fairly confident that it was SR 562, but I'd like someone else to weigh in before starting on corrections. To fix things, we need to modify the KML/GeoJSON files for the maps, copy the junction list entries for the correct southern end and recompute the mile markers for the whole table, and then correct the length and junctions in the infobox as appropriate. Imzadi 1979 → 17:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 1972 Ohio map shows 25 under SR 562 within a state route circle, so that’s good enough for me to confirm that was the case.—Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 15:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]