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Samples[edit]

I found a source that says "Ultralight Beam" doesn't feature any song samples, rather just the sample of the 4-year-old from Instagram. However, the website WhoSampled says the song samples 4 songs and the 4-year-old. I'm going to try to find more sources confirming the total amount of samples the song actually used. --- BeatlesLedTV 05:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CS GO[edit]

I'm not really sure if we should keep the part that says that the CS:GO sample was used, in my opinion, it's a stretch. It could very well be a member of the chorus talking that got picked up by the mic. TomasTomasTomas (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not a single?[edit]

BeatlesLedTV: Enlighten me – why is this not considered a single? The Commercial performance and Charts sections indicate that it appeared on several single charts. Aren't individual commercial sales necessary for the Billboard Hot 100? I know it's often arbitrary and nowadays largely meaningless, but I'm curious. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ojorojo "Ultralight Beam" wasn't released as an official single from The Life of Pablo. Songs can still chart even though they weren't released as official singles. The only official singles from TLoP that West released were "Famous", "Father Stretch My Hands", and "Fade"; non-singles like "Wolves" and "Real Friends" still charted as well. Normally, songs aren't considered "singles" unless they are sent specifically to radio stations or in the past were pressed on individual CDs or vinyls. Like every song on West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy charted even though not every song was a single. But yeah in the case of "Ultralight Beam", it wasn't an official single but it still charted. Even then it charted somewhat low even though it still charted. Does that answer your question? BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:18, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @BeatlesLedTV: I'm just trying to see some rationale for singles vs promo singles vs songs. According to Billboard, "Generally speaking, our Hot 100 formula targets a ratio of sales (35-45%), airplay (30-40%) and streaming (20-30%)."[1] So it appears that radio stations played the song even if the record company didn't send it? It looks like the only way to tell what's what is a pronouncement by the label (absent a physical format and then that may just be a promo). —Ojorojo (talk) 18:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ojorojo I mainly see it that "Ultralight Beam" was not released prior to TLoP as a single or a promo, but rather released with the album in February 2016. The difference can definitely be confusing. Songs such as "...Ready for It?" by Taylor Swift and "Untouchable" by Eminem we're both released as promo singles after "Look What You Made Me Do" and "Walk on Water", respectively, and before their respective albums were released. Normally promo singles are released shortly before the album releases while lead singles are released about a month before the album releases. Songs that aren't singles are just released with the album and then the artist normally picks more singles from the album after release. I think "Ultralight Beam" charted because people called radio stations and requested it. It would explain why it charted so low and it wasn't a normal single or promo. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 21:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that there is a consistent approach, except that the most successful are designated "singles", followed by "promo singles", then songs or tracks. Is there a reliable source that confirms the label must "send" the song to radio stations in order to be considered a single (although they have added it to their playlist)? —Ojorojo (talk) 14:49, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, especially for singles and promo singles as a whole. I know that "Ultralight Beam" specifically was not a single; I found nowhere saying it was a single when I was writing it for good article status. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:30, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Archives[edit]

BeatlesLedTV How do you get the bot to do archives for sources on a page? I'm asking this because I need to archive on Father Stretch My Hands. --Kyle Peake (talk) 19:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake Click 'View history' and click "fix dead links" and that'll take you here to the IA bot. Sign in then under the name of the article click the box that says "add archives to all non-dead refs". I actually just figured that out when I did this one. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 19:24, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]