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100th meeting of Red River Shootout

Hello, I'm doing a bit of clean-up at Red River Shootout in anticipation of a few extra page views this weekend. If anyone here would like to help out that would be great. (And yes, I am aware that corporate interests and political correctness have led to a name-change). Johntex\talk 22:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Endowment statistics

According to this document on endowment assets, OU's endowment for FY2005 is $777.5 million, not quite the $1.3 billion listed on the OU wiki page. I'll change the amount, but feel free to revise per a substantiated link verifying the $1.3b amount. Thanks!

Be careful in relying on NACUBO as the gospel. I'd check with UO's fundraising arm. In some cases -- Michigan State's is one of them -- where only the main university endowment was listed, but not the separate listing of the foundation (which oftentimes, is separate). Also, total ednowment dollar amount doesn't always equal "current market value" which is what NACUBO rates. Keep in mind, some endowed gifts are of property (like stocks or land), bequests, trusts or other gifts whose value either hasn't been set or is shifting. 151.197.64.224 03:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

List of Colleges / Units

The list of Colleges is worth having on Wikipedia, however, I think it ought to have its own article, as it fills up a lot of the main page. Ottergoose 17:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

A word to the wise: college lists are frowned upon. Wikipedia prefers, if you are ever to move this article to "Feature" status, narrative prose of balanced, factual information -- that is, non-boosterism. Both the Michigan State University and University of Michigan have both been featured articles, so you might want to look at them. 151.197.64.224 03:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I am going to edit this part. I plan on leaving in the list of Colleges but taking out the individual majors and departments. There is no need for the list of majors offered by the College of A&S. --Nmajdan 14:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Campus divisions

I made some changes to the Norman Campus section. I broke it off into three parts, Main Campus, North Campus, and South Campus. I added some information to these parts. What else needs to be changed? --Nmajdan 15:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Greek Life

I removed the list of sororities as we want to limit lists in the main OU article. If someone wants to create this list, create it under its own article (like List of University of Oklahoma Fraternities and Sororities) and insert a "See Also" under the subheading Greek Life. I added a couple paragraphs in place of the list. I eventually want to move the Greek Life article under a Student Life header. I may look at UofM and MSU's articles to see how they did it.--Nmajdan 13:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


North Campus is over 3 miles north of Boyd street, the so called boundry of Main campus. Also, the University owns land south of SH9, and this has been left out. -Anon.

History of OU

Since I don't know when this section will be written, either by myself or someone else, I am going to skip it for now. However, it will be needed before this article can get featured.--Nmajdan 21:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Since Collegiate Gothic is mentioned in the History section as the basic architectural style for the campus, why not mention that the specific style is called Cherokee Gothic and is quite unique to OU? 76.187.242.213 15:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

It would be nice to have some historic campus photographs on this article. Also, the picture labeled campus corner should be relabeled as it is difficult to see campus corner from that vantage point and for those unfamiliar with OU it won't make any sense.

I attempted to rotate HolmbergHall2, but it might still need a little tweaking. I like the photo of the stadium on the east side. I agree, I wish the cars were not there, but its a rare occasion when that lot is empty. This picture was taken on a weekday morning before 8:30AM during the summer. I don't know if there's a time when there are fewer people on campus. I'm going through and uploading some higher resolution images of some I previously uploaded.--Nmajdan 16:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The Holmberg Hall image looks a lot better now. With regards to the stadium, I might suggest taking a picture from the south east corner. Lighting in the morning would be perfect, and the bottom would be lined with trees rather than cars (I think). I'll attempt to take that picture this week, of course anyone is welcome to do it first :-) Ottergoose 18:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good. Don't forget to check out the OU page at the Commons for other pics.--Nmajdan 19:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I think someone should post a better picture of the south oval - maybe one with the fall mums in full bloom.

Agreed. Regarding the museum pics, we do have some pictures but more never hurts. I don't know if we need more in the article, but we can try to get as many unique pictures of OU's campus and buildings in the Commons as possible (Commons:University of Oklahoma).
That same user suggested pictures of every building that houses a college. Those pics would be good for the article on each college, but not for the article on OU... there's not enough room Ottergoose 15:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Completely agree. I would love a picture of every building on campus for use in the Commons and the eventual article on the college or building. But, its too much for the main OU article.--Nmajdan 15:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I have a better quality picture of the Bizzell library of much higher quality. Its on my other hard drive so it will be a few days before I can post it. I took the picture personally, so there is no worry about copyright. --Webmaestro 04:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, I remembered I have several pictures of the Sower, from much closer and with better lighting as to bring out the detail. I think the better picture of Bizzell will be appropriate for higher up on the page, since it is, in my opinion, the most famous building on campus --Webmaestro 04:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Excellent. Can't wait to see them. Also, we really need a picture of the Bizzell statue as well.--NMajdan•talk 00:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I uploaded and changed the images of the Library and the Sower, how do you like them? I also have a few pictures of the National Weather Center and the Lloyd Noble Center, what is the best way to let you guys see them and determine if you would like them on the page? --Webmaestro 23:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Those look great. In the future, upload the picture you take to the Commons. If you don't mind, I may edit those a little. I'll let you see both copies before I reupload them to the site to get your approval. There is a link somewhere above to the OU page over at the commons.--NMajdan•talk 13:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree with NMajdan - great work Webmaestro. Ottergoose 14:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Ottergoose, you can see my edited version of the pics on Maestro's talk page.--NMajdan•talk 14:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

NMajdan• - Thanks for all your work on the page. A few months ago it had nothing. It looks terrific now!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.9.189 (talk • contribs) 1:35, June 25, 2006

Your welcome. --NMajdan•talk 12:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

OU as a nickname

Why is OU a nickname of the University of Oklahoma?--BigMac1212 00:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

If my history serves me, this goes back to the days of the Big Eight Conference. If you see that list of schools, three are "state" schools: Iowa State, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State. The other five are not. But consider their abbreviations: Oklahoma (OU), Colorado (CU), Kansas (KU), Missouri (MU), and Nebraska (NU).--NMajdan•talk 12:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I have a pennant banner dating from the 50's that reads "Oklahoma U." Also, calling OU "Oklahoma University" is not unheardof in Oklahoma. 76.187.242.213 15:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
No, not unheard of, but still rare. Also, if you've ever read the fight song, they do include the phrase "O-K-U" in the lyrics.--NMajdan•talk 16:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Featured Article

Well, no real advice on the latest peer review other than Andy's script. Once all citations have been converted to one of the {{cite}} templates ({{cite web}}, {{cite news}}, etc) and when the page has been thoroughly de-red linked, I will put this up as an FA candidate and see what criticism I can get there.--NMajdan•talk 20:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I completed the citations. There are also some more comments in the Peer Review section for OU. I could use some more experienced editor's help correcting the lead, if anybody can help.--NMajdan•talk 17:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Military information updates

I'm debating on moving the updates from 214.13.70.107 to the history section. They are great additions but I don't know if information regarding the history of the north and south campus belong in the section they are originally in. I'd like to see more information regarding what is currently there in those sections and more the historical content to the history section. Any comments?--NMajdan•talk 18:59, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Citation 22

Citation 22 needs to be cleaned and updated. --Bearly541 03:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that to my attention. How that was missed, I don't know.--NMajdan•talk 03:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Library/Law School

The law school has been located on Timberdell since the 70s not 2002, that was when the new Law Library opened. Which is the largest law library in the state, and should be mentioned.

Gaylord Library

When I get a chance, I will add in info. about the Gaylord Library to the Museum and Libraries section. It is, in my opinion, one of the best places to study on campus: not crowded, awesome view, beatiful building (Gaylord Hall)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.77.44 (talk • contribs)

Residential

After much protest from students, I know that it is no longer required for freshmen to live on campus. Can someone find out about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.77.44 (talk • contribs)

Beat the Hell Out of Texas Image

The Beat the Hell out of Texas image has changed because the South Oval has been repaved and renamed the Michael Price Walkway, or something to that effect...as told by my friend who attends OU. He sent me a new image of the new "Beat the Hell Out of Texas" image which is located between Nielsen Hall and Bizzell Library. Where is the old file so that I can update? Bearly541 talk 03:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, we should keep the original image of the phrase at its original location. However, feel free to upload an image of it at its new location. Just because its not outside Dale anymore doesn't mean we need to delete that image. Its good for historical reasons.--NMajdan•talk 03:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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Stillwater

What happened to the university in Stillwater. In the history section, it says that the legislature established two universities, one in Stillwater. However there is no further reference to this campus/university. Did it never get created, and thus it was never established? Pepsidrinka 01:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Stillwater? That's where the other university is located (Oklahoma State University) Guettarda 01:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
That's right. The territorial legislature established two or three universities (I need to double check my source). One was the actual state university (OU in Norman), one was the agricultural and mechanical university (Oklahoma A&M in Stillwater, now Oklahoma State Univ) and if there was a third it was the "normal" college in Oklahoma City (which became Univ of Central Oklahoma).↔NMajdan•talk 02:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh. Well the article explains that the school in Norman became OU, but fails to mention what happened with the Stillwater campus. I for one didn't even think about OSU whilst reading the history section. Perhaps you could make it more clear. Pepsidrinka 17:26, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Done.↔NMajdan•talk 19:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Helping out

I havent had so much time to be on Wikipedia ever since the Tulsa article went featured, but I'll try to help out with this article during its feature nomination. I'm an OSU student myself, but I think I can handle it. Deep breaths. Okiefromokla•talk 05:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Hockey

Hockey is not an OU sponsored sport. It is a club team. This article should only list sports that OU actually sponsors (sponsored sports are on the main athletic website).↔NMajdan•talk 16:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

you could mention a blurb about your club teams in the activities section. Oldag07 22:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Deadwood

I cut out a lot of the deadwood phrases in your article http://www.klariti.com/technical-writing/Deadwood%20Phrases.shtml i haven't done the be verbs yet, (is, am, are, was, were, been, being be) removing as many of those makes the essay better. good luck. thanks and Gig Em!

BTW, your article had a lot less deadwood then the a&m one had when i cleaned that one outOldag07 23:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Made a lot more changes, but I am tired. more work can be doneOldag07 01:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Edward Gaylord an OU graduate?

The caption under the photo of the Edward L. Gaylord says he is an OU graduate. Does anyone have a source for that? I believe that's suspect. His Wikipedia article says he graduated from Stanford and did graduate study at Harvard. See also here. If no objection, I will change. -- Lobosolo 21:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

According to this, which is a resolution passed by the Oklahoma Legislature, he graduated from Stanford and got a Master's from Harvard. So yes, it appears to be safe to change it. Trvsdrlng 00:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyedit

Possible threat?

According to this, there's been a threat posted on a flyer on campus, saying that on April 21, "all operations at OU Norman will cease." OUPD's not quite sure what to make of it. Should it be included, or should I wait until something more develops? The link above is the only place I can find info on it. Trvsdrlng (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hold off. It's not presently notable and Wikipedia isn't a news service. →Wordbuilder (talk) 22:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Norman Police took care of the situation. 129.15.127.253 (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Additions to campus

Several additions on campus are ongoing. For example, a new engineering building sponsored by Devon Energy is under construction, expansion to Gaylord Hall is happening, and another building next to Price Hall is almost complete. Someone needs to update the buildings with this information. 129.15.127.253 (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Famous graduates

Need to add Owen Garriott, our first Astronaut, Skylab 3. He graduated EE in 1953.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_K._Garriott

I would do it but someone else can do it better. I was a year behind Owen and knew him in the NROTC.

Ou1954 (talk) 04:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC) Don Williams

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:University of Oklahoma/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
The following projects and editors have been notified of this GAR: Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities, Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, Wikipedia:WikiProject Oklahoma, Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Oklahoma, Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical League, Nmajdan (talk · contribs), Oldag07 (talk · contribs), ElKevbo (talk · contribs), Ottergoose (talk · contribs), Steventity (talk · contribs), and Doncram (talk · contribs).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

As part of the GA Sweeps, I have taken a look at this article. Upon review of Wikipedia:Good article criteria, this extremely broad and well-written article has some slight faults that I would like to call attention to in hopes of improving the article. At the current time there are 10 paragraphs that have no citations. This means that either the article needs to be reorganized or specific subjects are without verification. An additional paragraph has a {{fact}} tag. I am going to contact all those who I believe will undertake cleaning this article up to retain its GA status.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment. Overall a much stronger article than most non-FA universities and boosterism appears to be mostly under control. Madcoverboy (talk) 15:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
    • The lead gives a bit too much space to booster-like comments about its rankings and so forth in the second paragraph which WP:UNIGUIDE warns against. I believe this should be cut back by removing the mention of the "best value" and "most wired colleges" since these aren't especially notable distinctions in light of the later omission of more prevalent (no matter how much people who are in the know despise them) US News rankings.
    • The history section wanders a bit from topic to topic giving slightly undue weight to some anecdotes and lacks many necessary citations. I suggest spinning the section out to History of the University of Oklahoma for longer discussion there (so long as it is referenced) and summarizing the current section to hit the major points.
    • Recognition needs to be deprecated and its content merged into Academics.
    • Academic section lacks a lot of important information. Look at Northwestern University#Academics for an example (IMHO): information on OU's Carnegie classifications, accreditation status, graduate & professional programs, details about the academic calendar, undergraduate curriculum, demographics of the student body, financial aid and tuition numbers, enrollment distributions, etc. all need to be included. The academic section appears to preferentially select which rankings to include and excludes some notables ones such as US News, Washington Monthly, Forbes, The Times Higher Education Supplement, etc. I suggest implementing {{Infobox US university ranking}} and taking any mention of rankings out of the body.
    • Campus section is over-sectioned into subsections that are only a paragraph long. Vast tracts of the body here lack any references.
    • The Health Sciences enrollment box needs to be deprecated and moved off the main university article to the health science article only.
    • Museums and libraries is often merged with either Academics or Campus, but this isn't a hard and fast rule given the apparent importance of these particular institutions.
    • The student life section suffers from the bloat and cruft that inevitably accumulate over time. These need to be honed down and summarized to emphasize the notable distinctions and descriptions rather than elaborating on the particular minutae of student government offices, cafeterias, and other dorm amentities.
    • The renewable energy section needs to be deprecated and merged with the Campus section.

Big 12 WikiProject

I'm trying to gauge the interested in created a Big 12 WikiProject and wondering who would like to be involved. There are already pages for WikiProject Big Ten and WikiProject ACC. A Big 12 project would cover the schools themselves and anything to do with conference sports including: events, rivalries, teams, seasons, championships and lore. There is already quite a bit of activity here on Wikipedia regarding the Big 12, and I think a project could help coordinate and unify our efforts. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Big 12 if you are interested, and add your name to the list. Grey Wanderer (talk) 00:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Image resource

Alexey Sergeev, a physics professor, has licensed photographs at his web page (http://www.asergeev.com/) under the GFDL. A directory of these images are available here. A number of these images are related to this institution. I encourage interested editors to upload these images at Commons with the license tag Commons:Template:Alex Sergeev permission. --GrapedApe (talk) 01:21, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:University of Oklahoma/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

To get this to FA, the history section needs to be updated. Needs a better sample of information from all periods of the university. Right now the sections on pre-Boren and post-Boren are roughly the same. Need more info on the "middle ages" of the university (say 1950-1990).↔NMajdan•talk 17:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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SAE incident

Rather than edit-war over this, why not start a discussion? Guettarda (talk) 02:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

It seems plainly obvious to me that this news is given undue weight at the moment. An entire section header dedicated to a flash-in-the-pan news story in an encyclopedia article about a 125 year old university ? It's plainly excessive. HiDrNick! 12:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Actually, if you think that this is a only a "flash-in-the-pan news story", then you really ought to examine your potential racial insensitivity. --108.16.207.46 (talk) 16:03, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Our five pillars are a great place to start learning about the Wikipedia guidelines and policies that help editors decide what information to include in encyclopedia articles. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Recapping every news story, even big news stories, is not encyclopedic. Please understand that this is not an attempt to censor information out of articles, but rather prudent editing: after all, our shared goal is to create high-quality reference encyclopedia articles.
To achieve this goal, it's also important that editors should treat each other with respect and civility. Your suggestion that I "ought to examine your potential racial insensitivity" is a clear personal attack; let's focus on aligning the content of the article with Wikipedia policies and guidelines instead. HiDrNick! 17:50, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Every recent story is UNDUE. In fact, in the life of a 125-year-old institution, just about everything we report is going to be tinged by that. But it's pretty normal for things like this to remain in the main article until they've run their course. It's a big enough deal locally and people will come here expecting to find something and, failing to find it, will create a section that probably has more problems than the current section. I'd say leave it for the time being, but keep it short. Guettarda (talk) 17:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree with you 100%. --108.16.207.46 (talk) 18:06, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Actually we could probably trim it down to a single sentence and a {{seemain|Sigma_Alpha_Epsilon#Discriminatory_incidents}} Guettarda (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
It's worthy of mention, but agree that it should be one sentence, perhaps two in the interest of good flow. Possibly in Student organizations, activities, and media, possibly in History, but it doesn't warrant its own subsection. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Unless it becomes something larger than an incident involving a handful of students in one student organization (e.g., a flashpoint for large scale change, the first of many substantive discussions about and examinations of campus culture) then that is exactly how I think it should be handled. I have no strong opinion on whether the sentence (or two) should be placed in the "History" or "Student organizations" section; it could probably work well in either section depending on how its written and where other similar information is placed. ElKevbo (talk) 20:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Someone should consider starting a new Wikipedia article on this specific topic, so that the detail of the event is not lost (in Wikipedia) as time passes. A lot of worthy detail is already being lost as efforts are made, rightly so, to shoehorn the story into the main article for this university. FFM784 (talk) 02:16, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Per your suggestion, I started a spin-off article: 2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident‎; please add anything that you think is relevant to the facts at hand.--The lorax (talk) 01:45, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Name of SAE member who led chant

The leader of the chant has been identified by multiple sources -- why can't we mention this in the article?--The lorax (talk) 19:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

You already have my answer, it's in my edit summary. I assume you're here for other opinions, which is fine. I'll just add that presence in reliable sources is only the first step in a multi-step filtering process, and by itself does not justify inclusion of anything. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:47, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
WP:BLPNAME is the policy that is most applicable: "Caution should be applied when identifying individuals who are discussed primarily in terms of a single event." Adding this person's name doesn't seem like it would "add significant value" to this article especially since this is the only reason why this person is at all notable. Those arguments weigh in favor of omitting the name from this encyclopedia article. ElKevbo (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Do you think this will change if he publicly apologizes?--The lorax (talk) 20:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Unlikely. Editing guidelines encourage us to be very careful when including information about non-notable knuckleheads in articles. HiDrNick! 20:22, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

See also: 2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident

Now that the article 2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident has been created and fleshed out (good job, btw), is there consensus to remove the relevant subheader from this article and move a link to the new article to the "See also" section? This would be the same treatment that the 2005 OU bombing receives. HiDrNick! 12:56, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Note that the other article is under challenge. It is nominated for speedy deletion; if it survives that it may well go to AfD. ―Mandruss ☎ 15:42, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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Is research campus part of south campus?

There appears to be some disagreement as to whether the research campus is part of the south campus. Supporting:

  • This Google Maps map
  • This statement in this article: "The Norman campus has three sections: north campus, main campus, and south campus."

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This discrepancy needs to be cleared up. Maybe we're using different definitions of the word "campus" in different places, a recipe for confusion. Does anyone have anything authoritative on this? I.e., something besides personal opinion? ―Mandruss ☎ 06:42, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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Sigma Alpha Epsilon and WP:WEIGHT

Ok, this relatively minor blip in OU's 125-year history now occupies, by a rough online word count, about ten percent of the article's History section. How in hell does that pass WP:WEIGHT? I am reverting the latest addition, which can be added to the main article about the incident. I feel the related content in this article should be reduced even further (now at about 7.5%), but I'm not going to take action on that at this time. ―Mandruss ☎ 07:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I'd be fine if you or someone else trimmed this material in this article. I simply don't want someone to blithely remove it in a clumsy attempt to censor the article. ElKevbo (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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Boren Retiring

David Boren just just announced he will step down as university president next year. The news has already been reflected on Boren's BLP, but I think it could/should be added here too. Is the news lead-worthy though? Kerdooskis (talk) 20:03, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

At the moment I would just add a sentence to the "History" section mentioning his announced retirement. Only when a replacement is actually inaugurated would I revise the lead to name the new President in lieu of the current sentence about Boren. I don't feel strongly about this, however. --Arxiloxos (talk) 02:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Unless there is something truly remarkable or extraordinary about the president I don't think it belongs in the lead at all. Another way to think about this is: "Is this information essential for readers to know about this subject?" I'm hard pressed to argue that knowing the president or vice chancellor of nearly any university is essential for a reader. ElKevbo (talk) 14:33, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I think both of your insights are spot on. I just worked up a sentence for the end of the "History" section, but even that smacked of WP:RECENTISM the second I reviewed it. Probably best just to wait until a successor is named and then add something to both the lead and History. Sorry for my initial gusto. I always appreciate someone else's take! Kerdooskis (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

It should be added to Boren's biography. //nepaxt 23:31, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

New President

Could someone please help to create an article about OU's new president. Here's a start. Thanks. //nepaxt 04:56, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

@Nepaxt: We already have one at James L. Gallogly. That is, assuming the information is correct. It would have been better to wait until he's shown as president on OU's website before updating this article, for verifiability. ―Mandruss ☎ 05:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Well, it's technically July 1st. So, we probably should wait until Monday. //nepaxt 05:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Nepaxt: No, we probably should have waited until he's shown as president on OU's website before updating this article, for verifiability, whether that's Monday or September. That's a gentle hint to self-revert, in case it wasn't obvious. ―Mandruss ☎ 05:04, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the self-revert. ―Mandruss ☎ 05:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Al Eschbach

I recently created an article for iconic OU radio personality Al Eschbach. Any help improving the article would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 05:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

OU-Tulsa splitting proposal

I propose that sections 2.3 2.3.1 2.3.2 be split into a separate page called University of Oklahoma-Tulsa Schusterman Center. This topic can be expanded upon and these sections are large enough to make their own page. Jeramypappas (talk) 15:44, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Apologies if I'm doing this wrong. I'm new to Wikipedia. I actually submitte an OU-Tulsa draft article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:University_of_Oklahoma-Tulsa_Schusterman_Center) and was referred to start this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeramypappas (talk • contribs) 15:46, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Question This a substantive division of the university but the current sources in this article do not appear to be sufficient to warrant a separate article. Is there a lot more material that could be added, supported by independent and reliable sources, to a new article? ElKevbo (talk) 15:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
    I believe so. Most of what's contained in the article covers only the purchase of the current campus site and a few larger building projects only as recent as 2007. Here are a few more recent items that I was able to find: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12]. OU-Tulsa also houses the OU School of Community Medicine (which itself needs updating as it is now called the OU-TU School of Community Medicine) so references from that page would be useful as well. Jeramypappas (talk) 22:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Edit-warring to add promotional language about OU-Tulsa

An unregistered editor is using multiple accounts to attempt to add promotional language to the small section about OU-Tulsa. Please stop. ElKevbo (talk) 23:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

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