Talk:Upstart (software)

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Upstart has actually replaced cron?[edit]

I failed to find where Upstart has replaced cron, atd, anacron and inetd Ubuntu Fiesty and Gibbon. I only see it has replaced /etc/inittab and sysvinit functionality. Can someone enlighten me on this? --KJRehberg 19:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It hasn't yet; the person who edited the page to remove that claim is quite correct. Colin Watson (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Upstart 0.5[edit]

Upstart 0.5 is the next expected release and SJR has posted three long emails about its roadmap. I don't feel there is too much value to incorporate anything into the article yet, better to wait until after the fact.. -- Sverdrup (talk) 00:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But what's it for?[edit]

The article does a good job on who, what, where and when, what's missing is the "why". What's the motivation for this project? Why is it supposed to be an improvement over the traditional way of doing it?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Doom (talk • contribs) 09:47, 12 September 2009

Indeed. The references provide good rationales; I'll try and crib one together. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

jessie and systemd[edit]

Would be nice if wikipedia dosn't write articles about events in the future. Also Poettering and many newspapers think different, I think the poll is still running. (Two of seven days.) The CT will publish it if they are ready and even than the GR is allowed to change this decision. I think using the offitial site for decitions of the CT ([1]) would be the best in this case. (And nothing is published there up to now.) I hope I understood the process at the debian TC right. --Fabiwanne (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's exactly the same as my own thinking while reviewing (and cleaning up) that recent addition. Should we delete the "Debian chooses systemd" statement, and wait until the voting is officially closed? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 22:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted it. And since it were only a 2 links which was added I thought it's no problem to wait the week for undoing it. --Fabiwanne (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've actually reverted too much deleting later edits unrelated to the premature conclusion on jessie's init system, so I've reverted your revert, and handpicked the parts to be deleted/changed. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 17:18, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The tech-ctte has decided, until a (potential GR overrules this), systemd is the chosen default Cálestyo (talk) 17:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but the provided reference is quite blurry to me, sounds somewhat like a bunch of weasel words, so I've reverted your edits. Any chances, please, for a better reference? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 18:20, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm not going to prove to you, that the sky is blue… Bdale Garbee is the chairman of the tech-ctte, which put the final casting vote at the very reference that I gave. So live with that or let the article contain outdated information. Cálestyo (talk) 19:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can live with much worse things, but a brief explanation never hurts. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 05:42, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

perhaps you like that https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/02/msg00005.html more... o.O Cálestyo (talk) 19:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 05:42, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

adoption status[edit]

I've reordered the adoption section a bit. What matters here is really only who supports / uses it per default and who not... especially it doesn't matter a lot whether such distro moved to systemd afterwards or not.

Further, I think it's not neutral to include dead (Maemo) or "special" distros (chrome, or WebOS which is nowadays a Linux for TVs o.O) in the list of such that use it per default... Cálestyo (talk) 00:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, that's debatable. For example, Maemo has been officially dead for a long time, but many people are still using their community-supported (to a certain degree) N900 phones. Maybe the solution would be to describe such examples as no longer maintained, or with something similar? Then again, let's see what the other editors think about it. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 05:55, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ubuntu is taking it on after 14.04, per Mark Shuttleworth: [2] - David Gerard (talk) 19:52, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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If Chrome OS and Chromium OS still use Upstart then is it really dead?[edit]

The article's lead says Upstart is no longer maintained but the article says Google's Chrome OS and Chromium OS still use it. Are they using an old 2014 version or have they updated Upstart, in which case it's not really dead even if it's only Google who still uses and updates it. What's the deal? Let's update the article to be clear what Google's use of Upstart is and clarify if it really is no longer being developed, even by Google. 108.239.8.149 (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I cannot really contribute to such a discussion without primary sources. You can check the upstart integration in Google's git repos. They do pull an old version and apply patches on top of that. IIRC they have not added new patches in a long time. Furthermore some newer devices may be using systemd in place of Upstart. Furthermore I maintain a fork of upstart called startup (rebranded to escape trademark concerns).

CameronNemo (talk) 00:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]