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Facilities section reads like ad copy[edit]

Hi, just published an edit because the facilities section read like an advertisement, accidentally published it without an edit message, so leaving a note here. Shantaram3013 (talk) 18:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:5th_Vande_Bharat_Express_departing_towards_Mysuru_Jn.jpg should be in-front page not anyother pic[edit]

File:5th_Vande_Bharat_Express_departing_towards_Mysuru_Jn.jpg is perfect Display pic for VB train Hexatron93 (talk) 06:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

no the current pic is far more better and in contrast with the orange pic. I gues Taj04 (talk) 11:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Rewa - Bhopal Vande Bharat Express[edit]

Request any administrator to pls delete Rewa - Bhopal Vande Bharat Express as Rani Kamlapati (Habibganj) is already in Bhopal and it connects with Rewa.

Rani Kamalapati (Habibganj)–Rewa Vande Bharat Express

So government has already introduced it as part of route it follows the same route.

Secondly no proposed vande bharat page also exists and pls delete all the redirects of the Rewa Bhopal Vande Bharat Express Taj04 (talk) 02:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but not the right place for this. Please see WP:PROD. Arnav Bhate (talk) 09:01, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thanks Taj04 (talk) 06:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have redirected the page as it is the best option. In case if the government plans to start the same route in future, the redirect can be removed. 42.105.159.16 (talk) 13:55, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have done well thanks for the support most probably it would not start as Rani Kamlapati- Rewa vande bharat is already serving it. Taj04 (talk) 15:58, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mention about Acceleration of Vande Bharat (important), Difference between certified and trial speed[edit]

@Arnav Bhate Acceleration of Vande Bharat express is important. Without mentioning it, the article is incomplete. Please don't delete if correct information about this is given with reference. You have deleted it once.

Clarification between certified speed and trial speed should not be deleted to erase confusion but you deleted. Being confused, some person may edit this point incorrectly. Poorva12303 (talk) 10:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@VIBHAATH GUDTROT

Please don't delete these words about the train: "... it has fast acceleration and deceleration^[1]. Because of the high acceleration, the second version of Vande Bharat train reaches the speed of 100 kmph in just 52 seconds during trial. ^[2]^[3]^[4]." Only telling "reaches the speed of 100 kmph in just 52 seconds" can't give proper knowledge to readers.

As per reference "reaches the speed of 100 kmph in just 52 seconds" is during trial of Mumbai - Ahmedabad trial, which is a trial of second version. So version can be mentioned. Poorva12303 (talk) 11:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All that is something that is there in the trainset page. If you want to include it, please don't include it in the lead. Arnav Bhate (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the sentence:

The new variant of Vande Bharat train can reach a speed of 100 km/h in 52 seconds during trials

to

The new variant of Vande Bharat train is capable of reaching 100 km/h speed in just 52 seconds.

VIBHAATH GUDTROT (talk) 13:26, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the sentence:

It has achieved higher speed than its certified speed of 160 km/h during trial which is 180 km/h.

to

The trains have achieved 180 km/h during trials which is higher than the certified speed of 160 km/h.

the first versions sounds odd. VIBHAATH GUDTROT (talk) 13:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Arnav Bhate

"An important point about the train is that it has fast acceleration and deceleration" you shouldn't delete it based on the ground that it is EMUs common feature as everybody doesn't know it. Secondly it has higher accelaration than other EMUs

Other EMUs can't touch 100 Km/h in just 52 seconds (references given earlier)

3 Phase EMU:

Acceleration at designed weight 0 to 40 kmph 0.54 m/s²

Deceleration at designed weight 100 to 50 kmph 0.76 m/s²

Deceleration at designed weight 50 to 0 kmph 0.84 m/s²

[1]

Vande Bharat (version unknown but between 1st or 2nd):

Train shall be capable of achieving a minimum an average acceleration of 0.7 m/s2 for speed up to 40 km/h,

Train shall achieve a minimum deceleration of 0.8 m/s² during full service braking following the jerk limit as specified.

The full service brake shall not achieve deceleration of greater than 1.0 m/s² at any speed.

[2]

PS: Acceleration of Metro/ Monorail/ Namo Bharat may be even higher (speed range unknown) but these are slower than Vande Bharat (except Namo Bharat) and lighter than common rail and and have shorter routes. You may search official websites.

Kolkata Metro:

Maximum Acceleration 1.1 m/s2

Max. Deceleration during braking 1.3 m/s [3] Poorva12303 (talk) 07:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The train is already mentioned as a capable of reaching semi-highspeeds in the lead. All semi-high speed trains by default have very good acceleration/decelration. There is no need to write a whole essay comapring it with something like Kolkata metro. Further technical details are given in the Vande Bharat trainset article. Wikipedia is about keeping things succinct. As per WP:LEAD, the first paragraph should not contain too much specific details. VIBHAATH GUDTROT (talk) 11:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Avg speed and train no 61.3.161.94 (talk) 12:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/specificdocs/documents/2023/jan/doc2023116152601.pdf
^ "English rendering of PM's speech at inauguration of Vande Bharat Express & Ahmedabad Metro Rail Project Phase-1". pib.gov.in. Retrieved 2023-11-10.
^ "Vande Bharat takes around 5 hours in Ahmedabad-Mumbai trial run, breaks bullet train record". The Economic Times. 2022-09-15. ISSN 0013-0389. Retrieved 2023-11-10.
^ "New Vande Bharat breaks bullet train record at 100km/hr speed in 52 seconds". Hindustan Times. 2022-09-10. Retrieved 2023-11-10.

Avg speed and train no[edit]

update the avg speed and train no of lucknow dehradun vande bharat 61.3.161.94 (talk) 12:37, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/specificdocs/documents/2023/jan/doc2023116152601.pdf

[2] "English rendering of PM's speech at inauguration of Vande Bharat Express & Ahmedabad Metro Rail Project Phase-1". pib.gov.in. Retrieved 2023-11-10.

[3] "Vande Bharat takes around 5 hours in Ahmedabad-Mumbai trial run, breaks bullet train record". The Economic Times. 2022-09-15. ISSN 0013-0389. Retrieved 2023-11-10.

[4] "New Vande Bharat breaks bullet train record at 100km/hr speed in 52 seconds". Hindustan Times. 2022-09-10. Retrieved 2023-11-10.

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