Talk:Victor Harbor railway line

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The SAR called this line the Victor Harbour railway line. The station was also named in the same fashion. Which way should this article be named? Ozdaren (talk) 13:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good question!

Do you have a reference we can quote that demonstrates SAR use of the "u"?

If so, having a Victor Harbour railway line going to Victor Harbour railway station seems, to me, to be a good idea.

However, having a Victor Harbour railway line going to Victor Harbor seems likely to result in endless confusion and discussion. Even more so, having a Victor Harbour railway station in Victor Harbor!

Never-the-less, for-what-it's-worth, if we have supporting evidence, I still think that having a Victor Harbour railway line going to Victor Harbour railway station is the best solution.

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. What did the SAR call the Outer Harbor railway line, Adelaide and the Outer Harbor railway station, Adelaide? Pdfpdf (talk) 15:20, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have photos from the 1980s and ammonia prints from the original blue prints from the STA/ANR (formerly SAR) plans office in Adelaide Station. Is that original research? Ozdaren (talk) 01:51, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is that original research? - It depends how you use the information. The blueprints are documents, so you can validly cite them without problem. If you want to word your copyright to allow it, the photos can be used to illustrate, but there are those who argue that reading from a photo is different to reading from a piece of paper, and as you suggest, classify it as WP:OR. Pdfpdf (talk) 02:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Do you have any information about the Outer Harbor railway line & station names? Pdfpdf (talk) 02:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a look at Outer Harbor. I have some old maps but they may pre-date the use of Harbor. Ozdaren (talk) 03:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.victor.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=295 says: "The Victor Harbour Railway Station is still signposted today with the spelling including the 'u'." I'm not really sure if that helps or hinders! Pdfpdf (talk) 04:51, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The same page also says: "All three Harbors in South Australia are spelt without a 'u'." So that's Victor Harbor, South Australia and Outer Harbor, South Australia. I wonder which is the third they are referring to? I've seen references to Franklin Harbor, Kingscote Harbor, Rosetta Harbor, Port Pirie Harbor, Blanche Harbor, ... Pdfpdf (talk) 05:35, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is also around the time the ALP started spelling labour as labor. It must have seemed a more modern or contemporary way of doing it. Perhaps as a way of compromise the u spelling could be mentioned as a secondary spelling. Ozdaren (talk) 07:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds reasonable too. So, what are you planning to do? Pdfpdf (talk) 09:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]