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Education History

There is no mention of Victoria Jackson attending Palm Beach Atlantic University on her linked bio nor on any other source that I can find (other than sources that are quoting Wikipedia). She does mention that she attended Florida Bible College, but that institution has no affiliation with Palm Beach Atlantic University. Either support that statement with a reference, or remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.64.22.137 (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Fire Eater

Is a fire eater a fireman or a sideshow performer who puts fire in their mouth?Lestrade (talk) 00:10, 17 December 2009 (UTC)Lestrade

Yes. -- AvatarMN (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
You answered yes to a logical disjunction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.76.202 (talk) 17:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
The answer is: sideshow performer who puts fire in their mouth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.223.226 (talk) 06:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Restored deleted material

I have added back a quote from March 2010 by Jackson that illustrates her views as a tea party activist. Mainly that is why she is notable today. She says progressivism is the new communism, that it involves complete gov. control, and that this is Obama's goal. This is not "piling on", which I have never seen as a reason to remove something. The quote is succinct, current, and it shows her political views which is the main reason most readers would be looking up her bio today. KeptSouth (talk) 20:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Christian vs. Sassy

I suspect that anyone who reads this article would wonder about the harmony between the sex-jokes-Victoria and the staunch-Christian-Victoria. People who go to and put their kids in private Christian schools don't often make movies called "Casual Sex." I mean, I'd like a reference/explanation as to whether she considers herself as havng "escaped" hollywood or whether she sees no incongruity in those two roles. Anyone have any more of a nuanced view on this? --Mrcolj 19:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Christianity and Sex aren't mutually exclusive despite what the stereotypes would lead you to believe. Some Christians may feel that it's "bad" but not all do. Victoria Jackson is one of those who break the mould but there are others. For instance Jane Russell was another person who was reasonably devout and yet relied on her sex appeal to earn a living. -- Derek Ross | Talk 03:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea how to fix this without messing with the whole page, but there is stuff before SNL in the "beyond SNL" secton. -M. Davis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.43.91 (talk) 08:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

It's -acting-. An actress can portray roles that go against his or her moral beliefs. Lots42 (talk) 11:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Snofgren, 24 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} While Victoria Jackson and Al Yankovic were ostensibly "friends" - he has vehemently denied that they ever "dated". Considering the firestorm of controversy currently surrounding Ms. Jackson, I think the reference to their "dating in 1990" should be struck from the text, as it doesn't do any favors to Mr. Yankovic's reputation.

Snofgren (talk) 14:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Done — Bility (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

For real?

Is Victoria Jackson for real? It would be epic if she was pulling an Andy Kaufmanesque long con on the Tea Party movement. -- 21:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

As much as I'd love to let this article stand as is, because it's pretty funny, I don't think citing the personal website of a comedian known for playing a fictional character in public meets with wikipedia's sourcing standards. Focomoso (talk) 23:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, what? Are you saying that I suggested we should put this in the article, and source the personal website (that does not exist, much less make this claim) of someone who died before Victoria Jackson became famous (never mind before she joined the Pasadena Tea Party) to back it up? Very imaginative of you. I'm musing. -- AvatarMN (talk) 08:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I took think it may be set up. This looks very fake: http://vodpod.com/watch/3334727-moment-of-zen-glenn-beck-teaches-victoria-jackson (or remarkably retarded). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Athinker (talk • contribs) 13:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

The woman looks like a walking parody ... I can't believe that there are people so frightfully dumb out there like Ms Jackson appears to be. I mean, she's either mental or pulling a long con. Aroddo (talk) 00:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

it's not for real. i have a video of her being straight. her whole persona has always been a setup. (and no kidding, she was actually sort of hot back in the day, when she wasn't in character.) but no reason to spoil the fun. the left is really hating on her, that's funny too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.93.160 (talk) 00:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

It is a bit odd, isn't it? I call this line of reasoning the "Victoria Jackson conspiracy theory". Based on the video you refer to, she most certainly does appear to be playing a role. And she's pretty damn good at it too. But you know, if you think about it, how is this any different than a politician? Food for thought. Viriditas (talk) 04:44, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

"Learn how to vote"

An editor is wanting to keep this material in the article:

In 2010, Jackson wrote in an article that she did not learn how to vote until the 2000 presidential election.

The source is here, which is a dead link. Well not dead, but its to some location in "Breitbart News: Big Hollywood" and Breitbart's site can't find it and it just devolves to the Breitbart main page.

Couple things: First of all, "she did not learn how to vote until the 2000 presidential election". Since learning the actual mechanics of how to vote is very easy for persons of normal intelligence, she doubtless meant "bother to even learn how" -- that is, she was either busy or uninterested or just not in the habit, rather than of sub-normal intelligence. Implying otherwise is uncalled for, and that's what the materia; does.

Second of all, whatever the material is intended to show -- that's she's stupid, or a hypocrite, or a dilettante, or or otherwise unworthy to engage in political discourse -- I'd want a very good source, or very good multiple sources, indicating that. A dead link to Brietbart doesn't cut it for a BLP, and the material should not be included. Herostratus (talk) 15:12, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

You seem to have missed the edit immediately after the one you are discussing.[1] The earlier link was dead but the source was valid. My first edit reverted your edit to restore the baseline. The second edit fixed the wording to match the source and provides a working link. Personally, I see it as a relevant point. However, we should not be in the business of extracting relevant points from primary sources (Jackson is the author and subject of the piece). I'd say that if anyone can find secondary coverage, we might have something. I kinda doubt we will, as she doesn't seem to be getting much coverage. - SummerPhD (talk) 00:45, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Recruiting

See here. Jytdog (talk) 22:52, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Worked over

Worked this over this evening to trim unsourced/badly sourced content and improve the referencing and citations, except for the acting section. Once that is reviewed we can probably remove the COI and BLP-sourcing tags. Jytdog (talk) 01:41, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Legal name

In April 2014, in this diff, somebody changed the bolded name from "Victoria Jackson" to "Victoria Lynn Jackson-Wessel", and sourced this to the Daily Mail. That citation was removed in this diff. I have found no RS that gives that name (there are lots of CIRCULAR refs now, of course). Should we put this back to "Victoria Jackson"? Jytdog (talk) 06:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Unless there are more than one reliable sources that includes the hyphenated surname, I think it should be left out. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 12:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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