Talk:Wang Aiping (baseball)

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Requested move 15 May 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Dab page moved too. Jenks24 (talk) 03:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

– Both these individuals have had their whole careers in China, and per WP:NC-ZH the surname should come first. The second individual had stayed 1 year in the US but I don't think that's reason to use the western naming order. On another note, he needs to be identified as a scientist rather than a physician. --Relisted. Andrewa (talk) 14:44, 23 May 2015 (UTC) Timmyshin (talk) 23:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment what of Aiping Wang ? Will that also move to Wang Aiping ? -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:40, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Support move of the DAB. Heads-up [1] posted there. Andrewa (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support both but relisting, see discussion below. Andrewa (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support needs to be really exceptional to reverse order. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

This appears to be in line with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)#Order of names Personal names in Chinese, unlike Western names, present the family/clan name first. Unlike other instances where this occurs, it is standard practice in English to also present the family name first (for example, Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping and Bai Ling). There is an exception for people whose Chinese name is familiar but with English ordering (for example, Wen Ho Lee). In this case, the primary entry should be under the Western ordering with a redirect from the Chinese ordering. This naming convention is listed in Category:Wikipedia naming conventions and on Template:Naming conventions, so it is official.

Relisting for two reasons. Firstly, we haven't really dealt with the question of whether these people are ones whose Chinese name is familiar but with English ordering, and I think there should be the opportunity to object on these grounds. Secondly, if no such objection, the third proposed move of the DAB should take place too. I will post a heads-up on its talk page. Andrewa (talk) 14:52, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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