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Warden of the Royal Mint "of Great Britain"[edit]

I intended to qualify "Royal Mint" when I started the article, but somehow, I wasn't too happy with any of the alternatives. So I decided to let it dangle for a while, even if it seemed a bit ethnocentric.

For one thing, most of the source material I had managed to dig up on this particular office had to do with Newton's appointments in 1696 and 1699. Obviously, the "United Kingdom" did not even exist as a polity until the Act of Union 1800. Nor yet even "Great Britain", which came of the Acts of Union 1707 and created (among other things) a currency union with Scotland and the Pound Scots.

Well, since the Royal Mint had its roots in Wessex with Alfred the Great, I suppose I could have called it the "English Royal Mint", but I didn't think that would fly. And I don't know exactly when the office of "Warden" was created. Probably with Henry III.

I am not sure of the date when "Master of the Mint" was confused "Warden of the Mint"—at first unofficially, then offically. I surmise that this would not have happened during Newton's lifetime, but.... Both titles seem to have been abolished in 1870, although I don't have a good source.

However, if the title of "Warden" became defunct before the Act of Union of 1800, there would never have been a "Warden of the Royal Mint of the United Kingdom", would there? Perhaps of Great Britain? Or of Britain?--Ziusudra 23:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the historically inaccurate edit (I wasn't sure if and when you might return to tidy up). I'm not an expert in British history by any means; it just wasn't apparent to me at first which goverment or country this position performed its duties for. I have changed to "Great Britain" to fix my error, but absolutely feel free to edit my humble contributions or any others at any time if it improves the information. Satori Son 01:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No prob. Thanks for pitching in! --Ziusudra 01:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subordinate?[edit]

This article says "Master of the mint" was subordinate to "Warden of the mint". This is probably false: This book says "In December 1699, Thomas Neale died and Newton at long last achieved the promotion he had desired for so long. He became Master of the Mint." (And the Master of the Mint article corroborates this timeline.) To be fixed? Shreevatsa (talk) 22:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]