Talk:Watford F.C./GA1

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:40, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi - I'll make copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot queries below: Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:40, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Watford Football Club is an English professional football club based in Watford, Hertfordshire. - two "clubs" in the one sentence....can we change the second to "team"?

In most cases it's okay to treat the two words as synonyms. But in a sentence which is explicitly talking about the overall organisation, I'm not sure that team would work. —WFC— 16:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Agree is a tricky one, and accuracy trumps prose in this case it sounds like. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

alternate names and nicknames are usually in bold not italics in the lead (definitely italics in the body of the article though)

taking the team from the renamed Second Division to the Premier League in successive seasons - I'd specify somehow that this was up two tiers...

In the history section, "the town of Watford" is mentioned (and linked) twice in a few sentences. These should be streamlined into one mention. The second sentence of the para can be amalgamated with the grounds mention later. Incidentally this strikes me as a somewhat tangential reference source. I can help with rejigging the order if you like. better

First sentence of the history section could do with a ref.

I've attempted to address all of these points, through editing or a response as appropriate. Thanks for what you've done so far – I look forward to the rest of the review. —WFC— 16:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

General supportive note - the History section flows nicely. I find using the term "tier" is good as we can talk about first/second/third etc. with some consistency across all the silly renames from 1992 onwards (aargh!!).

I appreciate that. The history was certainly the most challenging part. —WFC— 13:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

With a record of 4 wins from his opening 23 league fixtures, Bassett was sacked in January 1988. - "record" often has a positive connotation - I'd rephrase as " After/with only 4 wins from the opening 23 league fixtures, Bassett was sacked in January 1988."

I've changed it to "With 4 wins". I'm wary of using "only" because it might come through as POV – if you compare Bassett's record with his predecessor you can probably guess his relative popularity among Watford fans. —WFC— 13:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

The club's highest home attendance is 34,099, for an FA Cup match against Manchester United on 3 February 1969 - I'd add in the round it was.

Done. —WFC— 13:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

anything to add about the fans? Fan songs? Mascot? Any other rivalries - i.e. with Barnet if they're both from Hertfordshire...?

I've had a go. As for rivalries, there have been what I would describe as brief, non-violent tensions with other clubs (none of which were from Hertfordshire), but nothing that has lasted for particularly long, and certainly nothing that could be reliably sourced as a rivalry. I will keep an eye on the section though, because if Stevenage F.C. get promoted I think the media would start describing matches between the two clubs as a "derby" quite quickly. —WFC— 13:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the sort of thing I mean. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Other than that, looking pretty good. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:33, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Pass or Fail: - great, well done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:25, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

That's fantastic! Thanks for the time you've spent on the article, it's much appreciated. —WFC— 13:29, 9 May 2012 (UTC)