Talk:Westlife/GA1
Failed GA nomination[edit]
OK, I'll be honest. The article is nowhere near GA standard - and I apologise for being harsh or abrupt. I reviewed a few sections, and then just got sick of it - and I wasn't noting everything I picked up. Here are my notes - they are generally relevant to the whole of the article, so you can work based on them. Leave a note on my talk page if you have any comments or questions. Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 02:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- "having sold 40 million albums in 40 countries. [1] [2]" - Remove spaces between full stop and ref 1, and between refs 1 and 2
- "The group have proven extremely successful in Ireland and the United Kingdom, and rest of the Europe, and are also relatively popular in Africa, Australia and Asia" - add wlinks for the names of countries here
- "Westlife has had 14 number one singles in the United Kingdom between the years 1999 and 2006[3] [4]" - Move these refs to the end of the paragraph, remove the space
- "They are worth an estimated €28 million (about £20 million or $ 40 million USD) in 2005 [6] ." - Remove space between $ and 40, and put ref after full stop
- The article needs a section discussing the band before their big break....formation etc.
- "Smash Hits Poll Winners Party. [7]" - REmove space after full stop.
- Refs 7 and 8 are the same
- Second section of "Westlife: Big Break" section needs sources for charting etc.
- "Coast to Coast was an enormous hit in the UK" - NPOV
- "Coast to Coast" section's first paragraph is unsourced
- "was crowned Christmas number one."....um, what's the Christmas number one?
- "which was then covered by Gareth Gates[9] and Will Young [10] for Pop Idol" -Refs to end of sentence
— Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 02:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Since I nominated the article and fixed all the citations per GA criteria, I've fixed the problems described above except:
*Second section of "Westlife: Big Break" section needs sources for charting etc.
- Chart records do not need sourcing based on a previous GA review. However, a citation to the BPI database was added for verification purposes.
--Cahk (talk) 04:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- All chart positions need to be sourced, you have unnecessary bolding for a TV Show, external links should be at the end of the article, "The members of Westlife appear to have successfully juggled their careers and their private lives:" is POV (article is on the band so this section seems pointless, heaps of lists (tours should be merged with the text, and heaps of one sentence paragraphs do not make for good prose. M3tal H3ad (talk) 05:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
To summarize on issues needing to be fixed:
heaps of one sentence paragraphs do not make for good prose--Cahk (talk) 07:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- There are still some bitty sections, and the most important things I see are external links to copyright violations (re: YouTube). Similarly, there are far too many WP:NONFREE images on the page. Lose most/all of those covers. The JPStalk to me 12:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. I've added citations to the 2 tags you placed. As to images.. well, we shall see. In terms of external links, I do not see any copyvio, could you elaborate?--Cahk (talk) 17:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Sure: the links to YouTube in the references, such as 'Easy With Lionel Richie'. Non-free images are to be only used for critical commentary and sparingly. Actually, most album pages (in the entire project, not just Westlife) fail this criteria but people tend to be more lenient when it's the subject of the article, but not in an overview like this. The JPStalk to me 19:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. However, I still failed to see how a youtube video is a copyvio on Wiki - I can see you say it can be copyvio of the uploader of the video, but the link to the video which shows/indicate something happened, as a fact, would be strange to say to it's a copyvio.--Cahk (talk) 19:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works explains it. The JPStalk to me 22:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. However, I still failed to see how a youtube video is a copyvio on Wiki - I can see you say it can be copyvio of the uploader of the video, but the link to the video which shows/indicate something happened, as a fact, would be strange to say to it's a copyvio.--Cahk (talk) 19:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Sure: the links to YouTube in the references, such as 'Easy With Lionel Richie'. Non-free images are to be only used for critical commentary and sparingly. Actually, most album pages (in the entire project, not just Westlife) fail this criteria but people tend to be more lenient when it's the subject of the article, but not in an overview like this. The JPStalk to me 19:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. I've added citations to the 2 tags you placed. As to images.. well, we shall see. In terms of external links, I do not see any copyvio, could you elaborate?--Cahk (talk) 17:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)