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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Ashley Tisdale became the first female artist to have two songs debut at the same time on the US Billboard Hot 100, with "What I've Been Looking For" and "Bop to the Top"?

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First female artist to debut two songs at the same time on the Hot 100[edit]

The week ending May 24, 1959 Connie Francis' "Lipstick on Your Collar" debuted at #57 and "Frankie" debuted at #66 on the Hot 100, see Billboard. Piriczki (talk) 04:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Frankie" is the B-side of "Lipstick on Your Collar", that's why they charted together. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So because it's two songs on the same record, they don't count? Piriczki (talk) 23:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a different issue. "What I've Been Looking For" and "Bop to the Top" charted, but they never were released as singles, meanwhile "Lipstick on Your Collar" was released as single with "Frankie" as its B-side, that's the problem here. Also, I tried to find a source about Francis being the first one, but I couldn't find one. Saying Francis is the first is original research solely using that Billboard's Hot 100 link. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In other eras, records contained two, four or more songs and neither side was necessarily designated as the A-side. 7" records were the primary format and either song was eligible for the Hot 100 but it was not very common that both would debut the same week. Later, 12" long-playing records were the primary format and later, compact discs. After 1998, the Hot 100 could contain any song from a record so multiple songs could potentially debut the same week, although it was still uncommon. And I never said Connie Francis was the first. Piriczki (talk) 00:12, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If it wasn't Francis, someone was, but it still being original research no not say Tisdale is the first female, as four references (one primary, the rest third-party) credit her to be the first. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 05:43, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Is Ashley Tisdale to be considered "the first female artist to debut two songs at the same time on the Billboard Hot 100 chart"?[edit]

CLOSED

There is a consensus to not exclude the text given in the diff. (non-admin closure) — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:08, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Should this statement be excluded from the page solely with the information given above by @Piriczki:? © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

The statement I gave is supported by 4 references, while Piriczki's is supported by one, and it doesn't explicity says Connie Francis is "the first female artist to debut two songs at the same time on the Billboard Hot 100 chart". © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the bot sent me. This seems to revolve around what is and isn't a single. Also, how long has the Billboard Hot 100 been around? This is my opinion, of course, but I find it hard to believe that it took until 2006 for a female to break into the Hot 100 with two singles. Put some diffs with the references here at this RfC, and I'll come back and comment. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 00:28, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - the statement saying Tisdale was the first seems fairly well sourced, and no sources given that explicitly state the contrary. --SubSeven (talk) 04:15, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Other female artists to debut two songs at the same time on the Billboard Hot 100[edit]

FYI, the week of October 2, 1961 Brenda Lee's song "Fool #1" debuted at #66 and "Anybody But Me" debuted at #77. The week of October 23, 1961 Patsy Cline's song "Crazy" debuted at #65 and "Who Can I Count On" debuted at #99. Piriczki (talk) 18:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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