Talk:Wildlife Aid Foundation

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Please note that for a third time, a speedy delete tag has been placed on this article. It really is beginning to look as if this page doesn't have a life here. Please don't just remove the speedy delete template without adding substantive content that makes it clear why this organisation is notable. In spite of two earlier, friendly notifications. this material just hasn't come forward to date.

Many thanks.Astral Highway (talk) 19:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Third time? I see exactly one place where a speedy delete tag was put on the article.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Owner of charity is also owner of production company that promotes this charity via a commercial TV programme[edit]

Please note, not only is Simon Cowell the founder of Wildflife Aid, he's also the owner of the production company that made Wildlife SOS, Animal Planet. So you've got a celebrity setting up a charity, then setting up a production company to promote it, and then selling the programme for commercial distribution. Then someone comes along and the charity gets profiled on Wikipedia without the inherent COI problems being immediately transparent.

The charity itself isn't notable, but the founder and owner of the production company promoting the charity are. I have a real problem with this set up. Per Wikipedia guidelines, this is no better than 'promoting some entity.' No independent, 3rd-party source is cited.

Pls note also that the only external reference is the charity's own website.

I hadn't heard of the charity until I found it on Wikipedia. I'd apply the same reasoning to any organisation, commercial or otherwise, and whoever its founder might be.

Astral Highway (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to inform you, we are not talking about Simon Cowell from X Factor, we are talking about this Simon Cowell, and he only became a "celebrity" (although, that's debatable) 15 years after he formed the charity. I have spoken to him myself, and the reason he formed Wild Productions and made Wildlife SOS after Wildlife Aid caught fire, and they needed money badly, so Animal Planet said they would pay them if they would do a documentary, which prooved, to be a very good idea indeed. Conay (talk) 23:18, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]