Talk:William de Tracy

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Untitled[edit]

I would like to take exception to the statement that the closest living relative is The Rev. Jonathan Anthony de Burgh Wilmot son of Anthony Talbot de Burgh Wilmot (OBE) since my family still retains the name 'de tracy' within its surname and my grandfather traced the family line back to William through members who fought in Ireland, acted as mercenaries andheld royal commision for the eradication of wolves. anyone interested? (unlikely) pm me.Thelucius 19:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Identity[edit]

Is this the same as or son of the William de Tracy who was an illegitimate son of Henry I? I suspect he cannot be the same, as Henry's William died about 1140; but he had at least one child (Grace), and could be more. Cheers, Lindsay 13:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's the son of. My mum does genealogy and I'm a direct descendant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.63.109 (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New Material[edit]

User:76.179.31.105 added a large amount of material quoted from an old publication 28 October; i have tried to edit it and make it a little more relevant (it was not very focused on de Tracy). I am not wedded to it, though, and happy to see if anyone else adjusts & improves it.
As a second point, related to my question above, if the new material is correct on de Tracy's ancestry, he was the great grandson of Henry I by his illegitimate son William de Tracy. Cheers, Lindsay 16:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Me" said... As for identity, William de Tracy did have legitimate children. Our family is related. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.248.138 (talk • contribs)

Father and mother?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.100.203.18 (talk) 06:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rudder's book[edit]

The book 'A New History of Gloucestershire' by Samuel Rudder has a chapter on Toddington and covers the Tracy family history from 1066 to 1755. The book is available from the British Library Document supply centre. It shows that the family remained in Gloucestershire for the whole of this period - several members becoming High Sheriff of Gloucestershire.87.113.34.70 (talk) 13:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC) Howard Tracey[reply]

Brean Down[edit]

"Another tradition is that the bodies of the knights were returned to the island of Brean Down, off the coast of Weston-super-Mare and buried there." Brean Down is not an island, it is a promontory — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:B416:9D01:284D:4D55:610D:F67E (talk) 13:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

better sources[edit]

The articles contains out-of-date misunderstandings. There was more than one person with the same name. If anyone gets a chance before then these sources could help:

Vincent, Nicholas, "The Murderers of Thomas Becket", in: Fryde and Reitz eds, Bischofsmord im Mittelalter, https://books.google.be/books?id=btg-_IyygYoC
Franklin, R. (2021, December 09). "Tracy, William de (d. in or before 1174), one of the murderers of Thomas Becket". in: Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Retrieved 23 Sep. 2023

Andrew Lancaster (talk) 20:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]