Talk:Williams FW07

Racing car template

I've had a stab at a template for racing cars (see template:Racing car) to summarise the usual data. I've used the F1 templates as a starting point and applied it to the Brabham BT46 article. If anyone's got an interest in this, please have a look at the template and modify or suggest changes as appropriate. After a few people have had a go at it and we have something we're happy with we could start to use it more widely. Note that it's not meant to be specific to F1, by the way. Cheers. 4u1e 09:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Version clashes

The text says the FW07 became the FW07B in 1981, but the results table says this happenned in 1980. Could this error please be corrected?

Perhaps some mention of the race victories in the 1980 Spanish and Australian Grands Prix could be included too? --Falcadore (talk) 04:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I've changed it to say that it became the FW07C in 1981 (thereby removing the factual error, but leaving the issue of when it transitioned from FW07 to FW07B unaddressed). DH85868993 (talk) 13:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomenclature

Sources differ over the correct nomenclature for the FW07 6-wheeler, and the cars the team used for the first 3 races of 1982 - some sources call the 6-wheeler a "FW07D" while others call it a "FW07E". Some sources call the 1982 race cars "FW07Cs" while others call them "FW07Ds". Specifically:

1. Mike Lang's Grand Prix! Vol 4 identifies the 6-wheeler as the FW07D, and says that the team used FW07Cs for the first 3 races of 1982
2. Kimberley's Grand Prix Team Guide No 11 (admittedly not the most reliable of sources) identifies the 1982 race cars as FW07Cs
3. FORIX and ChicaneF1 both identify the 1982 race cars as FW07Ds (except for Rosberg at Long Beach: FW07C). But they also both identify the car Jones used in the last 6 races of 1981 (i.e. from the 1981 German GP onwards) as a FW07D. Lang notes that Jones had a new car for the 1981 German GP, but identifies it as being "of an existing design" [i.e. a FW07C]
4. 8W says "Keke Rosberg climbed aboard the six-wheeled FW07 hack, which for reference purposes we shall call the FW07E, as its reported name (“FW07D”) later became the designation for the regular 1982 FW07."
5. A Google Images search for "williams fw07d" returns many pictures of the 6-wheeler
6. So does a Google Images search for "williams fw07e"
7. StatsF1 identifies the 1982 race cars as FW07Cs
8. AUTOCOURSE History of the Grand Prix Car 1966-85 says "the FW07D monocoque was prepared for [the 6-wheeler] rear end".
9. Individual 1982 race chassis are identified by various sources as follows:

Race	Driver	AUTOCOURSE History of the Grand Prix Car 1966-85	Kimberley's Grand Prix Team Guide No 11	FORIX	ChicaneF1
82 RSA	Reutemann	FW07D/16	FW07C/16	FW07D	FW07D
	Rosberg	FW07C/15	FW07C/15	FW07D	FW07D
82 BRA	Reutemann	-	FW07C/16	FW07D	FW07D
	Rosberg	FW07C/17	FW07C/17	FW07D	FW07D
82 USW	Andretti	-	FW07C/16	FW07D	FW07D
	Rosberg	FW07C/15	FW07C/15	FW07C	FW07C

So, what should we call them? DH85868993 (talk) 12:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

To add some more sources, The Guinness Complete Grand Prix Who's Who refers to the 1982-spec FW07s as FW07C, as does the contemporary Autocourse annual.--Midgrid(talk) 13:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Christopher Hilton's book on the 1982 season also uses FW07C. There's also going to be a big feature about the 1982 season in next week's issue of Autosport, which will doubtless add another source for this discussion.--Midgrid(talk) 13:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There is a contemporary source for the use of FW07D (in Spanish) here [1]. From Placar magazine 13 November 1981. That swings it for me. Mighty Antar (talk) 21:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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