Talk:Windsor & Eton Central railway station

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Center/Centre or nothing?[edit]

"Center" has recently been added in the article to "Windor Royal Shopping" but googling suggests that the centre is called "Windor Royal Shopping" without added "centre" let alone the Americanism "center". Isn't reversion called for?--SilasW (talk) 21:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn't read your comment before reverting. I'm sure I would have added 'centre' in the first place if it was included in the name, and probably some appropriate comment about the poor standards of spelling in this country if the company had used the abomination 'center'. :o)

Also, Castle Hill is not exactly globally notable...(now also unlinked).

EdJogg (talk) 01:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject London Transport[edit]

Why is this station within the purview of WikiProject London Transport when other stations between Southall and Slough are not? --Redrose64 (talk) 17:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was once served by the Metropolitan District Railway--DavidCane (talk) 22:33, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was; but so were West Ealing, Hanwell, Southall, Hayes & Harlington, West Drayton, Langley and Slough. West Ealing and Hanwell have a full {{TrainsWikiProject}}, whilst I notice that Southall, Hayes & Harlington and West Drayton have |Underground=yes in their {{TrainsWikiProject}} (which essentially puts them into {{WikiProject London Transport}}) but that still leaves Langley and Slough without either. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently going through the laborious process of assessing in excess of 2,000 WP:LT articles and hadn't got to them yet. Now done. --DavidCane (talk) 23:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Through to Riverside[edit]

Looking at some past road atlases showed that at a UK scale there was a connection by rail between this station and W&E Riverside. Was this ever the case? Simply south (talk) 21:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

None that I've ever seen. Whilst both branches opened in 1849, no connection is mentioned in either MacDermot (GWR) or Dendy-Marshall (SR); however Williams (LSWR) mentions that when the two branches were in the planning stage, the GWR line would have taken a different route, and it was intended that they share a Windsor terminus; but that the idea was abandoned in 1848.

If the two lines were proposed to be linked after construction, this would have been difficult, unless one end of the link was significantly far from the terminus on that particular branch, partly because of the amount of demolition that would be required, but mainly because of the different track levels. Williams mentions several proposals for a route from Windsor to Ascot; and both Windsor stations would be served in some of these schemes; only one ever got beyond the planning stage: the Windsor & Ascot Railway got its Act on 12 August 1898; but it was never constructed.

Which atlases? If these are indeed road atlases, it's poss that the cartographer, being primarily interested in roads, didn't take too much care over railways - he may have assumed, that since these two branches point at each other, that they actually connected. There are several examples of false maps. In Stroud public library there is a relief map of the Stroud area, which falsely shows the Midland Railway's branch from Dudbridge to Stroud as connecting into the GWR Swindon-Cheltenham line between Stroud and Brimscomb. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dendy Marshall, C.F.; Kidner, R.W. (1963) [1937]. History of the Southern Railway (2nd ed.). Shepperton: Ian Allan. pp. 80–81. ISBN 0-7110-0059-X.
MacDermot, E.T. (1927). History of the Great Western Railway. Vol. Vol. I (1st ed.). Paddington: Great Western Railway. pp. 196–198. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help)
Williams, R.A. (1968). The London & South Western Railway. Vol. Vol. 1: The Formative Years. Newton Abbot: David & Charles. pp. 172–175. ISBN 0 7153 4188 X. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help)
Williams, R.A. (1973). The London & South Western Railway. Vol. Vol. 2: Growth and Consolidation. Newton Abbot: David & Charles. pp. 69–71. ISBN 0 7153 5940 1. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help)

I think if you visited Windsor you would quickly see that such a connection is extremely unlikely. Although they're less than half-a-mile apart, Central station is a good 20 feet (or more) higher than Riverside, and its goods yard was accessed very slowly by way of a steep ramp (almost a zig-zag). Inter-branch trains would have to run along the riverbank, through (Victoria Gardens) and several very old buildings (including one with a blue plaque near Windsor Bridge for someone I can't remember)! The earth works would have been substantial, and at Riverside end would have required the track to pass within view of the castle windows -- I'm not sure that would have got Royal Assent!

Of course, there's also the fact that these were competing companies, so unless the LSWR/SR felt a need for through-running to Slough... As for wartime, the Staines West Branch effectively provided a nearby link between the GWR and SR, so this wouldn't have been a reason either.

Would be fun to include a scan of the map, if it's old enough!

EdJogg (talk) 00:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not old enough. 91. Unipart Motorists Atlas: Great Britain & Northern Ireland. HarperCollins. 1991. p. 23. ISBN 0-7028-1715-5.. Simply south (talk) 13:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]