Talk:With You (Mariah Carey song)

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 06:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Can see you've put a lot of work into this but they are a few improvements that I can see need making and will point them out today. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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Infobox and lead[edit]

  • Infobox looks good
  • ""With You" is a song by American singer and songwriter Mariah Carey. On October 4, 2018, Epic Records released it as the lead single from Carey's fifteenth studio album Caution (2018)." → ""With You" is a song by American singer and songwriter Mariah Carey from her fifteenth studio album, Caution (2018). On October 4, 2018, Epic Records released it as the album's lead single."
  • ""With You" was written by" → "The song was written by"
  • Change writing order to same as infobox
  • "also producing the song" → "also producing it"
  • "was announced on October 2, 2018" → "was announced on October 2" as we already know it's 2018
  • ""With You" is about a woman" → "The song's lyrics center around a woman"
  • "The song charted at number eight" → ""With You" charted at number eight"
  • Don't think a Sales chart is notable for the lead, maybe adult contemporary instead?
  • WikiLink Hungary Single Top 40 to the appropriate target
  • "The music video, directed" → "The accompanying music video, directed"
  • "was performed live for the first time at the American" → "was performed live at the American"

Background and composition[edit]

  • Any actual background information that can be added at the very start, like why did Mustard work on this?
  • "DJ Mustard and Mariah Carey produced" → "DJ Mustard and Carey produced"
  • Add liner notes as ref at the end of the first sentence
  • Everything from "promotional single "GTFO".[2][3]" belongs in the second para
  • "as she sings" → "with her singing"
  • "thought that the song was reminiscent" → "viewed the song as reminiscent"
  • "work including the songs:" → "work, including the songs"

Critical reception[edit]

  • At the top of the section, add info about what the overall reception was - then add it to the lead
  • "Spencer Kornhaber was positive of" → "Spencer Kornhaber praised"
  • "Stereogum's Chris DeVille" → "Chris DeVille of Stereogum"

Commercial performance[edit]

  • "the first of her lead singles not to enter" → "the first of Carey's lead singles to not enter"
  • Change to Billboard Hot 100
  • "which included number 7" → "including number seven"
  • Always put the title in ""
  • Add ref at the end of the first para's last sentence
  • "the song also charted" → "the song reached"
  • "chart, and at number 30 on Spain's Physical/Digital chart." → "chart and number 30 on Spain's Physical/Digital chart respectively."
  • "was number 8 in Hungary" → "was number 8 on the Hungary Single Top 40"
  • "It was her most successful single there since "I Want To Know What Love Is" (2009).[15]" → "It was Carey's most successful single in Hungary since "I Want To Know What Love Is" in 2009."
  • Merge para 3 with para 2

Music video[edit]

  • "The music video for" → "The accompanying music video for"
  • "prior to its premiere" → "prior to the premiere"
  • "The video is in black and white" → "The video is set in black and white"
  • "It features the singer" → "It includes the singer"
  • "such as a balcony, a beach, the floor of a mansion, driving around..." → "such as a balcony, a beach and the floor of a mansion; she is also seen driving around..."
  • "includes a faux fur coat as well as sunglasses" → "consists of a faux fur coat and sunglasses"

Live performances[edit]

  • "She wore a hot pink gown, and" → "During the performance, she wore a pink gown, and" as hot is not encyclopedic
  • "and concluded it by blowing a kiss to the audience" → "and she concluded it by blowing a kiss to the audience" as it is confusing whether you mean her or not as of current
  • "After this, she performed the song" → "Carey later performed the song"
  • Change target Number 1's Tour (Mariah Carey) to Mariah Carey: Live in Concert
  • "in the setlist for the" → "in the setlist for her"

Credits and personnel[edit]

  • Good

Charts[edit]

  • Good

Release history[edit]

  • Columns shouldn't be sortable and refs should be centered; see "Fade".
  • In order to verify that the song was released in various countries, cite multiple iTunes releases.

References[edit]

  • I understand that many need archiving, but the machine isn't working as of current so this cannot be done but it can be passed if other issues are adressed.
  • WikiLink Billboard on ref 1.
  • Ref 14 needs an access date.
  • Ref 17 should use YouTube as the publisher instead of via.
  • WikiLink Idolator on ref 25
  • See "Billionaire" as an example of how to put various countries into one ref for release. Should be US, Spain, Hungary and France as they are the ones it is referenced as charting in.

Final comments and verdict[edit]

There are numerous issues but since the article is quite small, I'll give you time and put it  On hold. Just two things to mention - an image should be added to comply with the GA criteria and the digital download release should be referenced somewhere appropriate in the body. --Kyle Peake (talk) 09:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, I believe I have addressed every concern. Thanks for a greatly helpful and comprehensive review. The only suggestion I didn't implement was removing hot pink; it's an actual color and that's the wording used by the critic so it isn't unencyclopedic in my opinion? Have a great week.--18:52, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Looks much better, do you think you could add some info about how Mustard became involved with Carey or something about another songwriter/producer? --Kyle Peake (talk) 18:56, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, I just added something I dig up from this interview with one of the songwriters. Check it out!--NØ 19:12, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Made a few minor changes, but well done! I'll happily  Pass this, good work. --Kyle Peake (talk) 19:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]