Talk:Wollaton Hall

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Recent news (when?) says the industrial museum section may be closing due to cost cutbacks by the owners, the Nottingham council,a real shame, a good little museum,we used to go often,as we live just outside west wall.

Claims regarding architectural inspiration[edit]

Does Reiff's book, on the influence of pattern books on American architecture 1738-1750, actually make the specific claim that Wollaton Hall (an English house built 150 years before the period he's writing about) is based on a plan by Serlio? and if so, which of Serlio's designs is it? Clearly it's quite important - to put it mildly - that this should be the case. And how reliable is Reiff when writing outside his particular field? Ghughesarch (talk) 22:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah - I see the source states that "Robert Smythson, who designed Wollaton Hall, Nottinghamshire (1580-88), drew, it seems, on Serlio, Book III, for the plan of the house, as well as for the design of a chimneypiece, traceable to Serlio's Books III and VII". "It seems" is hardly a ringing endorsement for the claim as expressed in the article. Ghughesarch (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Ghughesarch, but David Yeomans (1997). The Serlio floor and its derivations. Architectural Research Quarterly, 2, doi:10.1017/S1359135500001445 seems to agree with me too! "The floor at Wollaton is a variety of the type of structure described by Serlio and introduced into. England through his First Book of Architecture following." Giacomo Returned 22:28, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

no, that's about the construction of floors. Abstract: The idea of spanning a space with beams, none of which is long enough to reach clear across, is one which has long held a fascination for designers. Described by Villard de Honnecourt and by Serlio, variations on this form have appeared both in drawings and in actual use. This paper describes examples of both and considers the structural behaviour of this kind of arrangement. It offers no support to the idea that the floor plan of Wollaton is derived from Serlio. Ghughesarch (talk) 22:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Page Reorg[edit]

Suggested a re-org of the page. 1) The history museum, is inside the hall, so text should be moved to the main section on the hall 2) The industrial museum should be a level 1) heading itself (before or after 'The Park') - leaving the part section to be about the grounds. Is everyone OK with this - if so I'll make the edit. --Camayoc (talk) 07:32, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do reorganise, it's a mess currently, but I don't know enough about the place to do it myself. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at it a bit more, I think moving the park section to a Wollaton Park page (remove redirect), and keeping this focused on the hall would make more sense. --Camayoc (talk) 19:28, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The commons categories are separate, seems a reasonable thing to do. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit made - The park section has been moved to Wollaton Park --Camayoc (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Prodigy House[edit]

Is this not a prodigy house rather than "country house"? It's linked on the PH page.. Jellinator (talk) 20:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't get far, I see. Para 2 begins "Wollaton is a classic prodigy house..." - most of them are country houses, nearly all surviving ones. Johnbod (talk) 15:22, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]