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On 14 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Women in Refrigerators (trope). The result of the discussion was to be merged..

On 8 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fridging. The result of the discussion was not moved.

is deadtown even still relevant now? the source it cites is from 2018.[edit]

even just a simple google search shows only results from ~2018-2019. JanSowan (talk) 15:12, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Requested move 8 January 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Rough consensus against; editors on both sides claim that their preference is the common name, but only those in opposition have provided evidence.

Editors who are interested in merging should feel free to either open a merge request or attempt to do so boldly at any time. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 02:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in refrigerators → Fridging – The more common name. And it isn't always women who get fridged. See this. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – Hilst [talk] 17:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Damsel in distress#21st century. It is a subtopic of that, and not more significant than other examples there.

In this rare case of gender diversity on the old trope, that is worth a mention at the target. SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If not merged and redirected, OPPOSE this shortening as astonishing. As a term for a very modern description of a plot device, it is jargon. You can tell it is jargon because good sources have to define it in detail. SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question What evidence is there that fridging is more common? Cinderella157 (talk) 10:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. "Fridging" has become a very common term recently, appearing many times in the mainstream media (e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4]). -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Literature has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Women has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support This appears to be the WP:COMMONNAME. It also doesn't qualify as a "damsel in distress" as this term implies they have been killed off in order to provide motives for male characters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you. And "fridging" is a gender neutral term because I shared a link mentioning that a male character was found fridged by his girlfriend. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:33, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose until there's reliable evidence that "fridging" (regarding the trope) is more common. In Google Scholar, "women in refrigerators" gets 482 results, compared to the 339 for "fridging" (not even accounting for the "fridging" results that are not related to the trope). -- Primium (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - One example doesn't really make the term gender neutral. While the person in the interview excerpt you've provided is discussing a male character, it's being used explicitly in connection to the historical trend of victimized female characters, and therefor still retains its roots in being a gender-specific trope. I don't believe "fridging" is wholly gender-neutral just because it doesn't include the word "women". -- Primium (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Premium's evidence and lack of evidence to support the OP's assertion of WP:COMMONNAME. Not opposed to merge per SmokeyJoe. There is not a great deal of substance to support a separate article. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, it doesn't seem like either name is substantially more common but TBH I think fridging is less clean and I don't see the argument that it happened to a man once being persuasive when the source addresses it in the context of the trope. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:20, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.