Talk:Work No. 227: The lights going on and off

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 20:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Martin Creed's Work No. 227: The lights going on and off (2000)
Martin Creed's Work No. 227: The lights going on and off (2000)

Created by Amkilpatrick (talk). Self-nominated at 11:51, 16 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment (as I don't want to edit above the line marked): re Mandarax's edit summary comment on capitalisation of the image caption, I agree this should be consistent: I suggest the caption should be altered to match the article title (and the artist's own title). Also any help gratefully received as this is my first DYK nom! Thanks, Amkilpatrick (talk) 09:33, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is new enough and long enough, with citations throughout. Earwig throws up no issues; the only "close" match is a BBC article that shares the title of the work and one of the quotes. I've suggested an alternate hook (ALT2) that clarifies that it's actually TWO lightbulbs. Personally, I don't think "flickering" is the right word to use. Flickering suggests that the lights are going on and off erratically, and they're not. I think the picture caption be changed to sentence case (rather than all caps), as that would match both the name of the article and the published name of the work itself. Amkilpatrick, can you please indicate publishers for the citations you've added to the article? Right now, you just have partial links. Ping me when you've done that and I'll revisit. One question for those who know more than I do about art copyrights—can we legally use someone's uploaded video of this work? MeegsC (talk) 12:36, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks @MeegsC:! updated, how does this look now? I agree re 'flickering': could possibly be reworded as something like 'regularly/periodically switching' but I can't think of a formulation that isn't too clumsy right now. Amkilpatrick (talk) 13:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, that's much better, thanks; I'll approve this now. QPQ not needed, as this is only Amkilpatrick's third DYK nom. As to "regularly/periodically" in explaining the lights, I think it's unnecessary. The title of the work tells the reader what the lights are doing. I still have one question for an admin though: can we legally use someone's uploaded video of this work, or does that violate copyright? MeegsC (talk) 13:23, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Daniel Barnes?[edit]

@Vaticidalprophet: It bothers me a bit that we took an art critic with questionable notability and added his quote: "the first truly great artwork of the twenty-first century" in a DYK. At the very least this is a WP:PEACOCK statement in DYK due to poor attribution. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, neither Barnes nor "Ceasefire Magazine" that he was writing in seem to be notable. I've swapped it out for a different positive quote from Louisa Buck. --Lord Belbury (talk) 14:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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