Talk:Zaza nationalism

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I don't think it should be deleted[edit]

This page has a Turkish version and it should be in an English version. should not be deleted and more information is added over time.

Keep, whilst the article clearly needs a clean-up, this appears to be a legit article topic. See for example "Soon Zaza nationalism began to flourish in Turkey and Iran, with some Zazas calling for the creation of a separate Zaza state called either Zazaistan or Dersim. In 1991, Zaza nationalism was further boosted when the Turkish government..."^[1], "This Zaza 'nationalism' still largely a matter of exile politics..."^[2], "The birth of modern Zaza nationalism in the diaspora began as a marginal phenomenon, but gradually it began to influence the debate among the Zazas inside Turkey and Iran. A minority supported calls for a separate Zazaistan, distinct from..."^[3], "Most tribes there do not speak Kurdish proper but a related language called Zaza or KirmanAki; the author is a spokesman for a nascent Zaza nationalism)"^[4], " To Zaza nationalists, finally, it threatens to mistakenly treat Zaza speakers as Kurds, rather than as a distinct people or nation."^[5], "started claiming that the revolt had been of a Zaza nationalist character, while others called it a 'Zaza-Alevi rebellion'"^[6], "Zaza Kurds (their homeland in eastern Turkey is now called "Zazastan"), however, felt their "otherness" and accused the Kurdish majority of ... Zaza nationalism is supported mainly by Alevi Zazas, while Sunni Zazas keep their reservations."^[7], "Zaza nationalists , who in the 1980s claimed that the Zaza speakers were a distinct..."^[8] Benahol (talk) 10:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ Victoria R. Williams (24 February 2020). Indigenous Peoples: An Encyclopedia of Culture, History, and Threats to Survival [4 volumes]. ABC-CLIO. p. 1194. ISBN 978-1-4408-6118-5.
^ Kehl-Bodrogi; Otter-Beaujean; Barbara Kellner-Heikele (13 November 2018). Syncretistic Religious Communities in the Near East: Collected Papers of the International Symposium “Alevism in Turkey and Comparable Syncretistic Religious Communities in the Near East in the Past and Present”, Berlin, 14-17 April 1995. BRILL. p. 16. ISBN 978-90-04-37898-8.
^ James Minahan; Peter T. Wendel (2002). Encyclopedia of the Stateless Nations: S-Z. Greenwood Publishing Group. p. 2100. ISBN 978-0-313-32384-3.
^ Martin Van Bruinessen (2000). Kurdish Ethno-Nationalism Versus Nation-Building States: Collected Articles. “The” Isis Press. p. 117. ISBN 978-975-428-177-4.
^ Paul Joseph White; Joost Jongerden (2003). Turkey's Alevi Enigma: A Comprehensive Overview. BRILL. p. 197. ISBN 90-04-12538-8.
^ Die Welt des Islams. D. Reimer. 2008. p. 122.
^ Asian and African Studies. Vydavatel̕stvo Slovenskej akadémie vied. 2007. p. 18.
^ Martin van Bruinessen (2000). Mullas, Sufis and Heretics: The Role of Religion in Kurdish Society : Collected Articles. Isis Press. p. 54. ISBN 978-975-428-162-0.

Should be merged with Zazas#Zaza nationalism[edit]

Ebubekir Pamukçu, a Turkish journalist/writer is essentially the only source for this whole article and the rest is filler with attempts to preserve the Zaza languages being mixed in or insinuated as a form of nationalism in the article. Since the last vote, there has been no additional strength added to why a standalone article should exist, other than a political motive to be used as weight to argue that Zazas are not Kurds, in my opinion. --TataofTata (talk) 13:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[Williams2020-1] Victoria R. Williams (24 February 2020). Indigenous Peoples: An Encyclopedia of Culture, History, and Threats to Survival [4 volumes]. ABC-CLIO. p. 1194. ISBN 978-1-4408-6118-5.

[Kehl-BodrogiOtter-Beaujean2018-2] Kehl-Bodrogi; Otter-Beaujean; Barbara Kellner-Heikele (13 November 2018). Syncretistic Religious Communities in the Near East: Collected Papers of the International Symposium “Alevism in Turkey and Comparable Syncretistic Religious Communities in the Near East in the Past and Present”, Berlin, 14-17 April 1995. BRILL. p. 16. ISBN 978-90-04-37898-8.

[MinahanWendel2002-3] James Minahan; Peter T. Wendel (2002). Encyclopedia of the Stateless Nations: S-Z. Greenwood Publishing Group. p. 2100. ISBN 978-0-313-32384-3.

[Bruinessen2000-4] Martin Van Bruinessen (2000). Kurdish Ethno-Nationalism Versus Nation-Building States: Collected Articles. “The” Isis Press. p. 117. ISBN 978-975-428-177-4.

[WhiteJongerden2003-5] Paul Joseph White; Joost Jongerden (2003). Turkey's Alevi Enigma: A Comprehensive Overview. BRILL. p. 197. ISBN 90-04-12538-8.

[6] Die Welt des Islams. D. Reimer. 2008. p. 122.

[7] Asian and African Studies. Vydavatel̕stvo Slovenskej akadémie vied. 2007. p. 18.

[Bruinessen2000b-8] Martin van Bruinessen (2000). Mullas, Sufis and Heretics: The Role of Religion in Kurdish Society : Collected Articles. Isis Press. p. 54. ISBN 978-975-428-162-0.

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