Talk:Zoey Tur

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Repeat article[edit]

This page is VERY similar to Los Angeles News Service. One needs to be rewritten. St.isaac 23:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

Bob Tur is an American broadcast reporter who often credited with revolutionizing the way breaking news is covered.

This is bunk. The "often credited" part is out until someone can produce some citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.165.196.84 (talk) 21:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response: Bob has said a major reason for his circling and filming the merciless beating of Denny, which I watched live, and which left Denny severely disabled, was to attempt to drive Denny's attackers away. Who knows that Denny might be dead if not for the presence of the all-seeing news copter that day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.86.165 (talk) 09:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PR?[edit]

This "article" reads like a press release and needs to be rewritten. I suspect that the author is Bob himself or one of his employees, but whatever, the article contains goo info but it's pretty much cut and paste from Los Angeles News Service promo material. Proxy User (talk) 18:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PR?-No[edit]

How lazy are you. just google Tur's name and read the Los Angeles Times stories written about him (http://articles.latimes.com/1994-08-25/entertainment/ca-30773_1_los-angeles-lawsuit), or the FAA civil case. The transcripts to the federal court cases are on file and easily found on the US 9th Circuit docket. could use better source citations, i agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.74.128 (talk) 21:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy about Tur's claims about PCOS and trans men[edit]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/03/20/3635549/zoey-tur-transgender-representation/ 12.180.133.18 (talk) 22:13, 20 March 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Public misogyny, sexism[edit]

http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/12/bob-tur-transgender-woman-zoe/ "[Tur] says he doesn't believe women can make the same quick, decisive decisions like men when piloting an aircraft." 12.180.133.18 (talk) 22:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Claims of education not sourced[edit]

Transtruth (talk · contribs) added a claim that Tur is a retired medical doctor, and added a Doximity networking page as the source. That Doximity link doesn't actually back up this claim, so I have removed it. If someone can find a reliable source, it can be added back. 12.180.133.18 (talk) 22:23, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tur designed and built a helicopter? Huh?[edit]

Tur "is an American broadcast reporter best known for designing and building one of the first modern news helicopters used for live news reporting."

Oh really? Although I can't read the apparent source for this information at New Yorker Magazine because I'm not a subscriber, I'm pretty sure this isn't true. Versions of this statement have appeared in the article since November 2010, and I'm convinced it was by Tur herself or someone with personal connections.

Anyway, if it is true we need some sources here. And even if it is, Tur definitely is not "best known" for it. I'll give it awhile, and then I'm removing the statement. Nonoah59 (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, this seems to be the article they're referring to: [[1]] But I don't feel like paying to verify the claim. If nobody can provide a free source, I'd support taking this claim out. (Or at the very least, we should put a quote from the article in this cite.) — Narsil (talk) 17:51, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Broken link in reference[edit]

Reference 27 ("Ben Shapiro Speech About the Incident on YouTube") leads to a YouTube account that has been closed. 80.216.76.97 (talk) 01:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Photoshop?[edit]

This is going to sound weird, but it looks like whoever uploaded the current picture for this article used photoshop on Zoey's left breast. Take a close look and you'll see the discrepancies. Don't know what the usual rules are for photoshopped images but I'd vote to use a different image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1C01:2F05:5900:CC34:81B6:2DC3:829C (talk) 09:53, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see anything unusual about the image, other than typical artifacts from digital compression of the pattern on her top. The image seems to have been uploaded by Tur herself, so the worst I would expect (if anything at all) would be vanity-style cleanups, and I see no indication of any of that either. - SummerPhD^v2.0 16:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's a definite usage of the smudge brush to make the left breast larger and higher. I actually came to the talk page to ask why we're using photoshopped photos, as I thought there was a smudge on my screen the smudge brush usage is so overt and blatant. I'm shocked that the person above 'couldn't see anything unusual about the image' it's like hello - giant smudge brush, size 40+ px used without any blend mode. 121.210.33.50 (talk) 07:49, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably, you are talking about the uncropped version that was in use two years ago. I still see nothing.

In any case, the photo you seem to be asking about hasn't been used here in a couple of months. I'm not sure why you have any concern about it at all. - SummerPhD^v2.0 04:02, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Both photographs are much photoshopped. The "smudge" is an artifact from editing. You can see more in the originally uploaded image (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83%D1%80,_%D0%97%D0%BE%D0%B8#/media/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Zoey_Tur_Inside_Edition.jpg), the left side of the torso is "slimmed". The images uploaded by user under name "Zoeytur", presumably the subject of the article and look much as promo photos, not something of wiki quality. Should we consider removing both photos and trying to find a non-edited image of Tur?2A02:810C:CBBF:D54C:48AA:39F1:432C:C4C7 (talk)

Threats of violence on tv[edit]

Should the threats made on national TV to Ben Shipiro not be included? Rustygecko (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]