Template:Did you know nominations/Beezer Brothers
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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Beezer Brothers
- ... that American architect Michael J. Beezer, designer of the Larabie Brothers Bank in Deer Lodge, Montana, was honored by making its first deposit on opening day in 1912? Source: "The honor of making the first deposit went to the architect supervisor of the building construction, M.J. Beezer of Seattle, Washington." from ref 8, the NRHP nom form for Deer Creek Historic District.
Created by MB (talk) and Doncram (talk). Nominated by MB (talk) at 19:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC).
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Hook eligibility:
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- Interesting:
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Overall: 
Not sure if hook can be considered interesting enough (I very rarely look at DYK), so would prefer another reviewer to comment. — Voice of Clam 17:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- @MB and Voice of Clam: I would say that asking for a new hook is probably best. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron Voice of Clam MB ALT1 ... that the Beezer Brothers built Baker Boyer Bank as Walla Walla, Washington's first skyscraper? SL93 (talk) 23:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that the Beezer Brothers designed buildings with clay tile in place of steel for better performance during fires?
- I'm OK with any of these. MB 23:25, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Approve ALT2 as cited and interesting :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 03:00, 2 January 2023 (UTC)- @Theleekycauldron, Aoidh, MB, and Voice of Clam: This has major copyright issues. I'm amazed that it got as far as a queue (when I yanked it) without somebody noticing. Earwig gives it a 43.5%, which itself is a pretty high number, so worthy of looking deeper. What I found was that it's much worse than just the literal copy-pastes. Take a look at these two passages:
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The pair frequently acted as construction managers in addition to architects on their projects where they oversaw daily, on-site, work activities, work that is usually performed by construction firms.
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The Beezer Brothers actively supervised building sites, acting as construction managers as well as architects for their far flung commissions. At their firm’s height, these commissions extended as far north as Alaska, and as far south as Hollywood, California. As construction managers, the Beezer Brothers oversaw daily, on-site, work activities. Usually this work is contracted to construction firms.
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- Earwig only picked up on
oversaw daily, on-site, work activities
but the rest of the paragraph is almost as bad, just changing a few words here or there, i.e. close paraphrasing. There's a lot of other example of close paraphrasing, but this one looks like the worst. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just so that this isn't moved back to the approved nominations. SL93 (talk) 21:16, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
It has been over three weeks, and the close paraphrasing issues remain. MB hasn't edited in the interim. If they return before this closes, or someone else wants to work on the nomination and posts here, the nomination can continue. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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