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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 00:44, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Hanajira[edit]

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Sheikh Freih Abu Middein, chief of the Hanajira tribe between 1920 to 1947, during his mayoral term in Beersheba in the early 1920s
Reviewed Ibrahim II of Ifriqiya.

Created/expanded by Al Ameer son (talk). Self nom at 22:27, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Al Ameer, unless you object per my occasional involvement in I/P-related articles, I'll soon begin reviewing your nomination. From the looks of things I'll not have very much to say, but might I suggest that the hook you're proposing isn't particularly hooky? The number of communities displaced as a result – directly or indirectly – of the war must be in the scores. That the Hanajira were one such community isn't anything distinctive. Consider going with what's already in the lead of the article and is more a feature unique to the Hanajira:

No objection, I only consider this to be loosely-related to the I/P conflict, although others may disagree. And the alternative is fine (I considered using something like it initially), I just wikilinked Negev Bedouin. --Al Ameer son (talk) 16:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Forgot about that, sorry: "nominators who have more than five DYK credits and are nominating their own articles must review another article." Other than that, we should be good to go.—Biosketch (talk) 08:27, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I left Al Ameer son a message about the problem on the user's talk page. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the long delay, QPQ is finished. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:14, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Now that the QPQ is satisfied, the nomination needs to be fully reviewed. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
  • In a couple of days i'll have regular access to a computer (editing from a phone) & will complete the review, meanwhile can someone just post the diff for the qpq so it'll be on record?—Biosketch (talk) 12:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
  • There really isn't a need for the diff if you look the linked template in question, but if it helps you, here's the diff. (Most reviews don't include diffs these days.) Speaking of reviews, there will need to be an independent review of ALT1, since you created it yourself. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
  • and The original hook seems to be supported by a source that I can see part of in Google Books snippet view (AGF on that). The ALT1 hook is not explicitly supported by a citation in the article, but I think a suitable citation could be added. In particular, I think the Abu-Rabia book supports it. However, I note that the book consistently refers to the Hanajira and the other four Bedouin groups as "clans", not "tribes." --Orlady (talk) 16:00, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Either hook is fine for me. As for the usage of "tribe", I think this is just the preference of the author Abu Rabia. He describes the main tribes i.e. the Hanajira as "clans", but the subfamilies of those tribes i.e. the Abu Middein as "tribes". I thought tribes were supposed to be the bigger category and clans the subcategory. In any case, the Gad Gilbar source describes the Hanajira and the Negev groups as "tribes". --Al Ameer son (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Original hook is good. ALT1 might be more interesting, but the article does not have an adequate citation for it. --Orlady (talk) 20:21, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
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