Template:Did you know nominations/Internationales Sachsensymposion

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The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Internationales Sachsensymposion[edit]

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Sutton Hoo helmet replica

... that the 1973 Internationales Sachsensymposion included the "theatrical" unveiling of the Sutton Hoo helmet replica (pictured)? Source: Biddle 2015, p. 84, and symposium program for date.
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Reviewed: Zombie Hut

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 4 January 2018 (UTC).

- Length, Date, QPQ, Cite, and Earwigs check. Image appears to be freely licensed. Mifter (talk) 04:16, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

I have returned this from prep because I think the article is lacking in sources independent of the subject. Gatoclass (talk) 16:53, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Gatoclass, added another source. I could pull together more sources if you like, but most are in German, or simply say "this paper was presented at the [year] Sachsensymposion." --Usernameunique (talk) 17:48, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Usernameunique, the problem with your new source is that it really only constitutes a "trivial mention", per WP:GNG. I think what you need is one or two independent sources that give "significant coverage" per the guideline. Gatoclass (talk) 10:24, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Gatoclass, it looks like yet another source was added several hours after your above post, though Usernameunique did not mention that here, and no one else noticed because the nomination hadn't been retranscluded. I've added it back to the Nominations page, so it will be back on our radar, and was hoping you could take another look and see whether the new source offers "significant coverage". Thanks for taking another look. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, thanks for adding it back to the list. Gatoclass, I've also just added a book by Myres, which adds to the history of the organization (and verifies what is already there), and speaks to its importance. There's another book by Myres that also speaks about it, which I will add later this week (have to get the physical copy). Please let me know if you think it needs any more sourcing. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:03, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Comment Sourcing now looks ok to me. Johnbod (talk) 18:51, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, but I'm waiting for the nominator to add his additional source. Gatoclass (talk) 10:36, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Gatoclass, added the source. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:19, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Sources in German are OK, Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources. HLHJ (talk) 00:06, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Gatoclass, are you happy with the state of the article's sourcing? --Usernameunique (talk) 01:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Gatoclass, added yet another source, this time a German one. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:29, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay in getting back to this, I've been on a break. I think the Myres 1986 reference was sufficient to establish notability, but with regard to the hook, I am having trouble verifying the year the event took place. Gatoclass (talk) 10:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all, Gatoclass, sorry for the repeat pings. The year in the hook is a combination of two sources. Biddle 2015 describes the event, as recalled by Leslie Webster: "One evening in the early 1970s Rupert was to address the Sachsensymposion in London on Sutton Hoo. The meeting was in the Chemical Theatre at University College London." According to the organization's website, only one symposium has been held in London: the 1973 edition. Additional confirmation is found in the program, which says it was held at University College London, and on Wednesday 12 September has this on the schedule: "21.00: (to midnight) Party at the invitation of Rupert Bruce Mitford, Leslie Webster and David Wilson, at Ramsay Hall." There are some additional sources that lead to the same conclusion (e.g., a 1974 publication refers to the replica as a 1973 creation), but the Sachsensymposion's website makes it clear that there's only one year in which the unveiling could have taken place. --Usernameunique (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2018 (UTC)