Template:Did you know nominations/Lolium rigidum
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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 04:20, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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Lolium rigidum[edit]
... that Wimmera ryegrass is grown as a forage crop in Australia, despite sometimes being toxic to sheep?
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:12, 10 December 2015 (UTC).
Article new enough and long enough. Citations are present and the first half of the hook is verified, however the second half is hard to verify. The source article noted a 40-50% mortality rate in livestock, but the specific mention of sheep was for artificially poisoned with one specific toxin only. Its close to Synth of the sections with out full support of hte citation. --Kevmin § 16:23, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Could you be more precise about the exact problem? As well as writing this article, I added to the article Annual ryegrass toxicity and used an additional source there. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Reading the cited reference, it is not clear/unambiguous as to weather sheep are exposed to the toxins and die. The only specific mention of sheep is to human induced poisoning. I cant be confident of the assertion that infected Lolium rigidum is toxic to sheep as the citation stands.--Kevmin § 03:07, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- I'm still not with you, and do not understand your reference to human-induced toxicity. I have expanded the paragraph in the article and introduced another source. Is that better? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- The concern I have was the connection between the 40-50% figure and sheep. Your only source for the figure makes a general statement that toxicity is commonly 40%–50% and occasionally higher however the only specific mention of sheep is sheep experimentally poisoned with tunicamycin this does not indicate if sheep are included in the typical 40-50% figure. that is what I'm meaning about human-induced.--Kevmin § 15:58, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- I've got there in the end! The trouble was, one of my two sources was specifically about sheep, and the other one was about livestock. I thought the 40-50% figure came from the sheep source but it didn't. How about ALT1? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:16, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- The concern I have was the connection between the 40-50% figure and sheep. Your only source for the figure makes a general statement that toxicity is commonly 40%–50% and occasionally higher however the only specific mention of sheep is sheep experimentally poisoned with tunicamycin this does not indicate if sheep are included in the typical 40-50% figure. that is what I'm meaning about human-induced.--Kevmin § 15:58, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- I'm still not with you, and do not understand your reference to human-induced toxicity. I have expanded the paragraph in the article and introduced another source. Is that better? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Could you be more precise about the exact problem? As well as writing this article, I added to the article Annual ryegrass toxicity and used an additional source there. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Wimmera ryegrass is grown as a forage crop in Australia, despite sometimes being toxic to livestock?
