Template:Did you know nominations/Loretta Marron
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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Loretta Marron[edit]
Loretta Marron, CEO of the Friends of Science in Medicine
- ... that Loretta Marron (pictured) became known as "the Jelly Bean Lady" after using jelly beans to test bogus health products?
- ALT1:... that Loretta Marron (pictured) , popularly known as "the Jelly Bean Lady", is CEO of the "Friends of Science in Medicine"?
- ALT2:... that health advocate Loretta Marron (pictured) is popularly known as "the Jelly Bean Lady"?
- Reviewed: Highgate tube station
- Comment: Prefer this to appear on 17 October 2015 (Brisbane = UTC + 10 hours), when this article will be used to encourage people to contribute to Wikipedia, at a conference with Loretta Marron in attendance.
Created by Gronk Oz (talk). Self-nominated at 11:48, 27 September 2015 (UTC).
- New enough created by Gronk Oz on 27 September 2015, long enough 12,643 characters, not quite fully referenced (citation required at end of fourth paragraph of Jelly Bean lady). Image on Commons with appropriate licence. QPQ done. ALT2 claim of being CEO verified but as to Jelly Bean lady nickname, each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt review, @Hawkeye7:. I was not aware that the reference needed to be on the specific sentence; sorry for that. I have added an extra one after the first sentence of para 2 to support it, and this reference has the advantage of being freely available online. The wording of the relevant part in the new reference is "The Morayfield resident became known as the Jellybean Lady after debunking claims magnetised underlays could cure health ailments by using an electricity-measuring device over a magnet underlay compared to a jellybean-filled underlay. Not surprisingly, the results were the same." If you don't think that is adequate, I can certainly provide others; let me know.
- I was aware of the fourth paragraph lacking references, and frankly I can't think of the best way to deal with that. The topic of that paragraph is the extent of media coverage she has had - how to support that? I could give a plethora of links to an example of an article she wrote for each work, but that would get very messy without really adding much value imho. I am open to suggestions of how to support that paragraph, but also I am not sure whether it should hold up the DYK.Gronk Oz (talk) 13:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Note that the end of sentence rule is for DYK hook sentences only. It's just to make it easier for the reviewers; it is not a Wikipedia requirement per se. End of paragraph is fine for the rest of the article. Hook verified. Changing to a tick. Good to go. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this but found some close paraphrasing and also a paragraph in the "Jelly bean lady" section that lacks any citation, per DYK rules.- Source: Ms Marron has documented at least 50 chiropractic websites in New South Wales that offer treatment to pregnant women, babies, and children and has called on the Australian government to close a chiropractic paediatric clinic run by the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT) University.
- Article: She documented at least 50 chiropractic practitioners in New South Wales who offer treatment to pregnant women, babies, and children, and she called on the Australian government to close a chiropractic paediatric clinic run by the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT) University.
- Yoninah (talk) 08:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I adjusted the wording to, hopefully, address the close paraphrasing issue. Will need to look deeper into the article to see if the paragraph in the "Jelly bean lady" section is supported by any of the articles cited. (Anyone can jump in here, I just had a minute and am trying to help things along) SojoQ (talk) 10:36, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments, @Yoninah: - I think I have resolved your issues now. With help from @SojoQ: I think the close paraphrasing is fixed now. The un-referenced paragraph I have removed, since I fear it was also starting to approach WP:SYNTHESIS. So I removed all the specifics and it is now just a short generic lead-in sentence on the following paragraph, where it seems to sit better. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do. Gronk Oz (talk) 00:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
