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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:34, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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Shirley Chisholm

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A poster for Shirley Chisholm's 1972 presidential campaign
A poster for Shirley Chisholm's 1972 presidential campaign

Improved to Good Article status by FormalDude (talk). Self-nominated at 22:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC).

  • New GA, looks good. Why not add a pic? I can't verify the first hook off the link "in my region", but it hardly seems a surprising statement. Can someone help? I don't much like the 2nd hook, & the source doesn't exactly back it up, using "may" and saying "The color purple has several possible meanings, including symbolizing bipartisanship and paying homage to the suffragette movement, according to Insider's Amanda Krause...". I'm now ok with sourcing for both hooks, but the facts must be in the article. Johnbod (talk) 23:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Thanks, @Johnbod. I'm new to DYK, I didn't know they could have an image. I'll look into adding one. As for the sourcing of the two hooks, I added some additional verifying sources. ––FormalDude talk 00:46, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Another issue is I can't see either hook fact in the article. Maybe think of something else? Johnbod (talk) 03:13, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
    • @Johnbod: It's from the first paragraph of Shirley Chisholm#Political. ––FormalDude talk 03:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
      • "when Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton staged their historic "firsts" battle – where the victor would either be the first major-party African-American nominee, or the first woman nominee – with at least one observer crediting Chisholm's 1972 campaign as having paved the way for both of them" isn't really the same as "Shirley Chisholm is largely credited for paving the way for future nominees Barack Obama and Kamala Harris", is it? Johnbod (talk) 04:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
        • How about "has been credited" instead then? ––FormalDude talk 08:48, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Comment: It should be changed to candidate, she was not the nominee. Trillfendi (talk) 19:25, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ––FormalDude talk 08:49, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Let me state the problem more clearly. Both hooks mention Harris, but the only text in the article mentioning her is "Kamala Harris recognized Chisholm's presidential campaign by using a similar typography and red-and-yellow color scheme in her own 2020 presidential campaign's promotional materials and logo.[101] Harris launched her presidential campaign 47 years to the day after Chisholm's presidential campaign.[102]" - which contains neither hook fact. Johnbod (talk) 11:09, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
    • I see the issue now. It seems I misread Hilliary for Harris. I've proposed a new alternative hook. ––FormalDude talk 05:23, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @Trillfendi and Johnbod: Any opinions on the ALT2 hook? ––FormalDude talk 23:07, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
  • For ALT2, the CBS source works for Harris, but for the first one on Lee: a) I can't get it to play, probably because of geography or it's just too old, & b) the pod source itself doesn't look WP:RS to me, unless it's an interview with Lee maybe. Maybe someone with access could check it. But I think the new CBS source is enough for the original hook, which previously lacked Harris I think. Lee is mentioned in the article, so that's ok. Johnbod (talk) 02:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
    • @Johnbod: The podcast source for Lee is an interview; it mentions Lee is a guest. The podcast description also states "We learn about how Congresswoman Lee’s political career was shaped by working with the Black Panthers and on Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm’s historical presidential campaign." ––FormalDude talk 07:37, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
  • with original hook. Probably link Harris, & a pic could be added. Johnbod (talk) 02:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: per offwiki request I have added a pic to this nomination; please feel free to rework the caption/parenthetical placement if needed. eviolite (talk) 04:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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