Template:Did you know nominations/Zeb Noland

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Zeb Noland

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 06:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC).

  • The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. A QPQ has been completed. ALT1 is fine, but the original hook currently isn't. The lead of the article says "despite being a graduate assistant with the team" which is also unreferenced and not mentioned in the body of the article. The article has no mention of "despite being on the coaching staff". SL93 (talk) 23:08, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
  • SL93, thanks for the review! The bit about him being a graduate assistant with South Carolina is the first line at Zeb Noland#South Carolina, where it says "In May 2021, Noland was hired as a graduate assistant at South Carolina", which is sourced with reference 4 in the article. I suppose that I could be more direct about that being a coaching position (I guess I didn't directly say that), though I did mention in the last line of the "North Dakota State" section that he was "...reported to have taken a Power Five coaching job." PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
  • PCN02WPS That makes sense. My only issue now that is that the sources don't seem to say that it happened "despite" anything. Maybe I missed it. It seems to be original research if it isn't there. I'm sorry in advance if I missed it. SL93 (talk) 03:32, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
  • SL93, I've added some wording to the "South Carolina" section (with a source) that uses "despite"; I really only included that word because a coach that plays for his team (or even a coach that is even eligible to play for the team he coaches) is quite rare, and even more so for members of the coaching staff that actually get to start for those teams (this is the only instance I've ever heard of this happening). I didn't mean for that to come across as OR, just that it goes against the conventional wisdom that coaches themselves don't play for their teams. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
  • PCN02WPS Thanks for the addition. My thought was that it should also be clear to non-sports fans especially if the article is on the main page. This is approved. SL93 (talk) 03:53, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Oh, the promoter can choose the hook. SL93 (talk) 03:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
  • SL93 - good point, I appreciate you pointing that out. Thanks again for the review! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:07, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
ALT0 to T:DYK/P3