User:Heran et Sang'gres

Hello everyone, I'm Heran et Sang'gres, and I am a user here at Wikipedia.

Since I've been user page-less for more than 4 years, I decided to type it here.

But even though I've gone editing & contributing (just small info; I'm not an experienced researcher like the others, who would contribute vastly...) for 4 years, I'm still a newbie, I've decided that my user page will be simple, not unline the various admins and more experienced users here...

This will stay this way until further notice...

Future articles which will be contributed by me (once I get help from various others excelling in this field)

• Korean court marriage - depicting how court marriages in the Joseon Dynasty was made.
• Titles and styles during the Joseon Dynasty - about the major titles & styles used by the royal members of the court of the Joseon Dynasty
• Queen Munjeong - although not a new article, an attempt to imbibe her life, as that article has a VERY SHORT summary of her life.

Accomplishments so Far...

• Complete list of the Joseon Kings' family members, consorts and their respective issue - This one is a continuous process that will never be finished, since there are new information being discovered and all...and besides that, I refer to their respective Korean Wikipedia article pages.
  • I started sometime 2009 since someone else started, and I completed it until Sunjong, his mother and Queen Munjeong included as well...I thought that was the end of it all...XP
  • I then began revising from Taejo until Seongjong in 2011, then began involved in affairs of K-Pop. During the time after "Queen Seondeok" in 2012(?), I edited Queen Seondeok, King Jinpyeong, and especially Mishil.
  • In between that period, that was when I found that others began revising as well. I have no issue with that, though as a contributor I'm a little butthurt to find my neat edits becoming a cluttered mess by other editors. So...
  • I made a minor comeback by editing Gongmin's family (due to "Faith"...and also because of Park Se-yeong & Ryu Deok-hwan as the royal Goryeo couple). I especially pride on researching Princess Noguk's family, and her royal descent from Kublai Khan (though unfortunately her family starting from Zhenjin's second son Darmabala contains many holes due to obscurity that plagued his sons and grandsons; even Noguk's parents are unknown). The only difficulty I had was the Mongolian spelling from the Chinese hanzi. They were a royal headache...
  • Inspired by that, I then returned back to editing the Royal House of Jeonju Yi by February this year, starting with Taejo again. Since during that time many other information have surfaced in his Korean Wikipedia article page, I then started the edit. And I'm planning to continue on towards Jeongjong unimpeded, unless I become distracted again. XP

• Specified ancestry charts for specific people - this one is temporarily finished as of 22 February 2013.
  • Borǰigin Buddhašri (孛兒只斤寶塔實里), the Princess Noguk (魯國大長公主 노국대장공주)
    • I was thinking of an ancestry chart for Noguk, since I saw one before in European royalty and nobilities' pages. It was when I was searching for Sissi's pictures (specifically that Winterhalter painting of her with diamond star pins in her hair), that I saw her ancestry chart.
    • I then began applying it to Noguk. I had difficulty on which ancestry chart to use (since Sissi has 5 tiers) since I wanted to show her descent from Kublai (6 tiers), but then I saw the ancestry chart of Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, and found it perfect.
    • This became the final product, which I'm extremely proud of. Though the only drawback I can guarantee is that the Mongolian spelling of Darmabala's mother Kökejin's true name, Noguk's father and paternal grandfather are purely speculative basing it on the other Mongolian names of the Khaganate and Khanate's ancestors.
  • Min Ja-yeong (민자영 閔茲映), the Empress Myeongseong (명성황후 明成皇后)
    • Empress Myeongeong will always have a soft spot in my heart, ever since 2007 and even before that, when I saw the MV of the drama sung by Jo Su-mi. To me her death would be one of the many atrocities the Japanese would never ever claim to admit in full.
    • So fueled by my success of Noguk's ancestry chart, I copied the format, and applied it to family. It was no surprise to me of her descent from Queen Inhyeon's eldest brother, since I researched on that way back 2008/9. I'd expected many blank spaces as much as Noguk's since this was the Joseon Dynasty, where woman are totally disregarded save from child-bearing.
    • Again I encountered difficulties, such as some of her ancestors being absent from the Korean Wikipedia article pages, and also no identity whatsoever of the mens' fathers-in-law...so yeah...Even top-noth researchers come to points of dead ends, and so my solution? Yahoo-search. XD At least I saw some relevant information, so at least some blanks were filled in.
    • This is the final output, and I'm as proud as the first. Though I wasn't able to squeeze in some of the higher-ups in degree of relation, I at least managed to clear the clutter that the editors made of her family.
  • Yi Seong-gye (이성계 李成桂), the first King of Joseon Taejo (태조 太祖)
    • I have special reason for doing Taejo's ancestry chart, nonwithstanding my success on the 2 earlier ones. Taejo's descendants apotheosized and deified his own ancestors, even though they weren't Kings in their own rights and were already either 6 feet below the ground or 6 feet above the air so as to speak in Sejong's time. So I decided on doing his ancestry chart including his own deified ancestors, which were vividly told in Sejong's "Yongbieocheonga", the "Songs of the Dragons Flying to Heaven", which I think is Korea's Aeneid; the "dragons" being Taejo and his ancestors, and Taejong, Sejong's father.
    • As before difficulties arose, especially since some members have no Korean Wikipedia article page, so that prevented for a more complete chart. But it was okay.
    • By 21 February I was done, but this became the result; a jumbled mess of nothing. I kept thinking what went wrong, so much that User:Qwyrxian deleted it, and worse reverted my earlier edit of the Family back to its pre-18 February revision. But then after analyzing, found the problem: Dojo's formating link was missing a couple of square brackets. I figuratively face-palmed at the fail.
    • This was the final product, however I was disappointed by the sparsity of names and the profusion of question marks in it. I then decided to use Sissi's format (5 tiers), and removed Mokjo's father and all the question marks, leaving the final product much to my delight.
  • Lady Mishil (美室宮主 미실궁주)
    • From way back "Queen Seondeok", I was fascinated by Lady Mishil, as she was a force to be reckoned with, wielding such influence and power that now rivals the wicked Lady Choi of "Dae Jang-geum" and the greatest villainess Jang hee-bin. Also I was impressed by UEE's portrayal of Mishil, which I found out was way earlier than her annoying Yoo He-yi in "You're Beautiful" (and her fake-husband in WGM who played Lord Sadaham, Mishil's lover).
    • I figured with the vast resources concerning Silla that time, and the many names that were there, I figured it would be as easy as the breeze. Nonwithstanding those names without Korean Wikipedia article pages. To be honest I had fun doing her ancestry chart, even though I nearly succumbed to the sighing my lungs out due to the number of paramours present. But at least no in-breeding. XD
    • It was then when I finished Mishil's ancestry chart that I discovered Harald V of Norway's compact ancestry chart, 6 tiers with the collapsible view-box. I then decided to use that format, and to apply it to my 2 other babies.
    • This is my most favorite final product, along with the clean-up of Mishil's family, with the higher-ups crowding mostly the space, and revising my earlier edit of it. No sweat...XD
  • Princess Deokman (德曼公主 덕만공주), later Queen Seondeok (善德女王 선덕여왕) - Fueled by my success with Mishil, I then started with Seondeok's ancestry chart, but then one particular problem plagued me. Lady Manho, Seondeok's paternal great-grandmother (her father Jinpyeong's father Crown Prince Dongryun's mother; also, Kim Yushin's maternal grandmother; her mother Lady Manmyeong's mother), appears to have conflicting reports on who her real father is. If that be the case, that would be the chart way off course. So I abandoned it, for the sake of my short patience, temper, and mostly for my sanity...
  • Kim Bokhilgu (金福肹口 김복힐구), the Lady Maya (摩耶夫人 마야부인)
    • Due to my disappointment, I then turned to Seondeok's mother, Lady Maya, and discovered a potential mine-field. So of curse I decided to do her ancestry chart.
    • To my amusement I discovered that someone shares a common ancestor of someone. Maybe because behaviors were lax or whatever, but everyone shares a husband or a lover or whatnot. XP But at least no complications to it...It just took me a day to breeze through it without any difficulty whatsoever, with few question marks.
    • If I'm as proud as to the final outlook of Mishil's ancestry chart, Lady Maya's looks as neat and beautiful as my other works, along with cleaning up her family. And I'm a happy editor.
  • Yi Sun-shin (이순신 李舜臣)
    • Well actually, I just came across it, and just tried it out.
    • And as usual in the case of Joseon personalities, not too many names in the anccestry, except that I found out that he, philosopers Yi Gi and "Yulgok" Yi Yi are very distantly related; they both come from the same clan of the Deoksu Lee's (덕수이씨 德水李氏). As from what I saw in this site (Yulgok's memorial), Yi Gi, Yulgok, and Yi Sun-shin are descended from the 3rd-generation head Yi So (이소 李劭)'s two sons.
    • Alongside that I filled in his family, discovering he had 8 offspring from 2 ladies (the former his legal wife, the latter his concubine).
    • This is the final result. 06 March 2013
  • As to whoever next will catch my fancy...