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My warning[edit]

Who exactly is the warning from? Last time I checked, Xyrael originally posted it, not you. Not to sound rude or anything, but unless you asked or told them to post a warning on my talk page, I'd rather you didn't get involved, otherwise you're going to confuse me. --JDtalkemail 17:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to confuse, my aim was to act as a neutral third party in the debate, and to (hopefully and with good faith) illustrate that more than one person is against you. Hope that cleared things up, and thanks for querying civily. --Xyrael T 17:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I already know more than one person is "against me", but you don't need to make a point of it. Nothing I said was meant to be uncivil, but if that's the way it's all being received why doesn't the person on the receiving end actually try to sort it all out, rather than continually post warnings on my page? --JDtalkemail 17:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Big Brother[edit]

(complete revert to 9cds - who broke the page?)

I think that might have been me! Seems to be my edit was the one that done it. I was trying to add housemate images, but for ages I was getting edit conflicts. Is it worth trying again? Celardore 16:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quick[edit]

how did you manage to evict sezer that quickly on all 3 pages????? Ellisjm 20:28 UTC 2 June 06

quick[edit]

Yeah I did it on the table and the chronology page admittedly I got the column width a bit wrong on the table. And when I was editing the nomination twist bit on the table I too had the page preprepared which is why the table looked messed up afterwards as I had to revert all of the extra parts I had put on Sezer's row. -- JAB[T][C] 20:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip I usually would but I heard it on the show and thought I might forget it but yeah I'll remember that in future. Cheers. -- JAB[T][C] 20:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SEN Wikipedia Article[edit]

Why was the Staredit.net Wikipedia article removed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.184.160.23 (talkcontribs) .

Griffjam[edit]

pgk and I both indef'd Griffjam, you had blocked for 1 month, just wanted to make sure there was no rationale for a less than indef block -- Tawker 19:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A very sad thank you[edit]

Thank you for your vote in my recent RFA. At 43/43/14, I decided it was best to withdraw. I will wait until another time for an RFA. Thanks again, ILovePlankton 03:19, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Assist...[edit]

Hi. I picked your name at random from the list of admins, and have come to ask you to please delete a page, so I may move another in its place. Here is what happened: the page SBC (1984-2005) should be replaced by the page SBC Communications, as there was never nother SBC (destroying the need to give the dates in the title.) So, because both articles are identical, and I want credit for creating the original article (SBC (1984-2005)), could you please delete the page SBC Communications so I can move (SBC (1984-2005)) into its place? Thanks a lot. Please leave any questions you may have about this on my talk page. aido2002 20:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know.[edit]

I know you can't remove votes. But tell me this: has anyone ever called it spam to put something likt that on a talk page? I've seen it done, and nobody was angry. If a vote says something that is liebel, it should be removed. aido2002 20:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Everything I do gets removed[edit]

Even when I try not to vandalise it. It is not fair. Jamie 14:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ok sorry I will try better next time to be more suitable and less funny. I am learning every time. Jamie 15:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is hard to do. Jamie 15:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why was it not suitable? Jamie 15:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know what that means. Jamie 15:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I get it. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. I am learning more. Thank you. Jamie 15:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
By the way I knew it was an encyclopedia really lol Jamie 23:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its alright, I would come up with an excuse to if I went to that kind of page :P The King of Kings 21:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*hugs* Thanks FireFox. ;p Yeah, the new messages thing went skyrocketing after I copied one of a users page and put it on mine. Copycats. ;-) Cheers! The King of Kings 21:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature[edit]

Hey FireFox. I just came in to ask you if you could possibly just choose one signature? Because if this:

{{#switch:{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}
 | Monday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#3971DE">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#3971DE">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
 | Tuesday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#00FF00">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#00FF00">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
 | Wednesday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#000000">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#000000">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
 | Thursday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#9A32CD">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#9A32CD">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
 | Friday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#D41A1F">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#D41A1F">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
 | Saturday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#EE7600">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#EE7600">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
 | Sunday=— '''''[[User:FireFox|<span style="color:#6B6B6B">Fire</span>]][[User talk:FireFox|<span style="color:#6B6B6B">Fox</span>]]''''' • 17:58, 08 June '06
}}

Is going to pop-up everytime you leave a message on a users' page, that wouldn't be good. I've seen people, good users too, blocked for signatures shorter than this. Could you please consider it? I don't want to see you blocked. -- from The King of Kings 04:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now that I see it, it looks like you were testing you're signature. Please tell me that was a test? -- from The King of Kings 04:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank goodness it was a test. ;) Although, it would have been really cool to have an alternating signature by the day, it really was ingenious. If I alternated my signature everyday, I wouldn't only change the color, I would change the name, one day "The King of Kings", the next ..who knows? ;-) -- from The King of Kings 18:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck with exams. ;-) Mind telling me in what? -- from The King of Kings 18:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be nosey, but how much longer until your summer break? -- from The King of Kings 18:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cool more time to spend with Wikipedia past exams, eh? ;-) Darn, a month of worrying for exams, you got more guts than me. ;-) What a coincidence, I got out in mid-May too. But my school had to be a dick and made us take exams during our final days. Our technical last day was May 12, and we finished exams on May 19. It sucked studying for all those exams at one time :( But the good thing is I got an A on the one of them (I'm a B-C student so for me that was good). ;) All the best with your exams. Oh and thanks. -- from The King of Kings 18:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You can do it! I'm sure it look cool enough eventually, I have faith in you. ;-) -- from The King of Kings 19:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
*Moe's brain starts to sizzle* Gah.. to confusing. Must... *beats head against wall* :P -- from The King of Kings 19:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
:P Tee hee, fried brains. Personally, I find mine to be scrambled. :p -- from The King of Kings 19:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, what just happened, you signed but nothing showed up? Looks like your work has just begun :( -- from The King of Kings 19:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not to add insult to injury, but the dot (•) doesn't pick up well on some computers. One time I added the dot and it looked like an HTML code or something. But your signature is special believe me. ;-) -- from The King of Kings 19:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thats almost perfect. :P Could I make the suggestion of making it into one big userspace template and just using the template to sign with? -- from The King of Kings 19:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really know how to explain it, but maybe I'll give it a go. ;-) Ya know how you susbt all the templates and it turns out to be this one massive block of text? Well, maybe instead of making a sig, make a userspace template sig (I think thats what you're doing), but when that is finished, make another userspace template to place the signature in to condence the sixe of the sig on talk pages. Did any of that make sense? -- from The King of Kings 20:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mind if I try to test out a few things in my userspace and see what the result is when I do it? -- from The King of Kings 20:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the semi-late reply. :( I'll get on it. In a little while I'll tell you what I came up with. ;-) -- from The King of Kings 20:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've got it!![edit]

Ok try this:

In your preferences type:

{{Subst:User:FireFox/Sig2}} {{subst:CURRENTTIME}} {{subst:CURRENTDAY2}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} '06

Make sure Raw signature box is checked

I believe it not being checked was one of the problems you had. The FireFox/Sig2 has the template FireFox/Sig in it so when it subst's, it only leaves the second template which contains the sig. The problem I got first the template not substituting right and then the timestamp thing. The thing with the Current date and everything was confusing :-(

Another important thing is now you only have to type three ~~~ to make your sig and timestamp.

If you type in three tiles it should turn out like this:

  1. REDIRECT User:FireFox 21:12 09 June '06

Make sure not to merge or delete User:FireFox/Sig2 or User:FireFox/Sig.' Hey, I even got the daily rotating sig in. ;-) The only potential problem I see arriving from this the template inside the template will never get substitiued, which would be a lot of links after a while, but I guess thats a problem for the future. ;-) Hope this helps -- from The King of Kings 21:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm.. that is a problem isn't it. I'll try looking into what another editor did. -- from The King of Kings 21:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, whenever you get back ask me how I'm going along with it so I can update you. ;-) -- from The King of Kings 21:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HAHAHA I GOT IT!![edit]

I took me another hour, but I got the exact way Haza has his signature. I had to restart your other sig subpages though. Now it substitutes it and everything is great! (Although, I still like my original idea with the template inside a template :()

Copy and paste the following, lengthy code to the nickname box on My preferences:


{{subst:#switch:{{SUBST:CURRENTDAYNAME}}  | Monday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig2}}  | Tuesday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig3}}  | Wednesday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig4}}  | Thursday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig5}}  | Friday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig6}}  | Saturday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig7}}  | Sunday=— {{subst:User:FireFox/Sig8}} }} {{subst:CURRENTTIME}} {{subst:CURRENTDAY2}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} '06 

Sorry for making your talk page long width-wise. ;-) But, this is neat. I finally was able to do this kind thing (assistance to an user, not only a user but admin), that was actually of use. ;-)

You basically don't need User:FireFox/Sig anymore because all you need is the code in your signature box and the other subpages and you'll be fine.

If you type three ~~~ it should turn out like this now:

FireFox 22:52 09 June '06

Copy and paste the code into the box and tell my how it is. Hopefully this shall be the end of your signature search. ;-) -- from The King of Kings 22:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. :P -- from The King of Kings 18:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: 9cds RFA[edit]

He put in the wrong place, and I am tired of having users put in the wrong place and they could always read the directions. ForestH2

After I talked with him. And I saw full reason to do it. --ForestH2

O.K. --ForestH2

Please refrain from making vain cross-namespace redirects to your userpage, or you will be blocked. — FireFox • 16:05, 09 June '06[edit]

Pardon, but they are all synonymously used names. I ought to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gzlfb (talkcontribs)

They are your names.[edit]

That's how some found my site; I even sign my Usenet Posts with that full name. Do some research before you bother sending me any bullshit. Or do I have to say bullpoopie here?

--G-Spot 11:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I actually defend myself and the truth.[edit]

You could go after this entire database as being unreliable here and there; admins will never admit their failures because they control the power, but. I am a watch dog, I don't need this, I can web master; I can write articles on the outside. --G-Spot 12:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ban the link to the Scroogle Scraper, and on the personal User Page too.[edit]

That's sensable, millions of other searches are not, even massive ad searches like Yahoo and Google and Pay-Per-Inclusions as well no doubt. Mass Market is fine I guess, I am defending not attacking just in case it needs spelling out. --G-Spot 12:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Scroogle Scraper"[edit]

Who banned Scroogle, Google Watch, Wikipedia Watch, etc... outside URL links? What happens to them? Google to Yahoo to Jayde Search are okayed links, but Scroogle is spam? Criticism of this is spam?

Cults have been described as groups where criticism of the Leaders (or Administrators in this case) or Group can not be criticized. That seems to exist here, especially with the smap policy.

--G-Spot 14:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's just the spam blacklist that filters out certain URLs, as you are probably aware. It has nothing to do with me[edit]

Still this must bring some suspicion to Wikipedia itself, who possibly breaks it's own rules, by picking on Wikipedia Watch am I right? --G-Spot 15:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hi 49TL/Archive/June 2006, thank you for voting in my RFA which failed eventually at a result of (91/51/8). I do not plan to run for adminship until a later date. Once again, I will like to thank you for voting. --Terence Ong (talk | contribs) 14:30, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you deleted the article ฅนตัดหญ้า. I don't have anything to do with the article, but I wanted to let you know that it's in Thai, and the Thai Wikipedia has an article under the same name at th:ฅนตัดหญ้า. I can't read Thai, but you might consider restoring the article and asking someone who reads Thai to translate it. Or you could post a message on the author's talk page asking him or her to try to translate it into English or find someone willing to translate the article. TruthbringerToronto 18:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey..[edit]

How are you, and hows the sig working for ya? — The King of Kings 19:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine, I've gotten back into action onto Wikipedia after having to leave after Tropical Storm Alberto, *sighs, this was supposed to be my vacation* Glad your sig is still holding up. ;-) — The King of Kings 19:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, My area was one of the hardest hit :( Thankfully anything that bad could have happened passed me, barely. The worst I ever got was during Hurricane Jeanne of 2004, my shed blown away, it sucked. Surpringly, the only thing that blew away was the shed, nothing inside of it. :D I sorta laughed at the shed flying in the air, but then I started to realize I had to leave my house to go pick up the stuff during the middle of the storm. :( — The King of Kings 20:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that Tsunami was no joke. :( The only thing I can do when it affects me it try to laugh it off sometimes, but sometimes gets to a point where I can't. — The King of Kings 20:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Katrina? — The King of Kings 20:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That was probably it. Ok, later and don't let the bed bugs bite :) — The King of Kings 20:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject[edit]

Hello, I was wondering if you would like to be a designer in this project. You would be perfect for it, so leave me a message on your thoughts on my talk page. Thetruthbelow 03:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BB TfD[edit]

In all truth I'd rather the template were in use, but if all of one people think it shouldn't be used, then you may as well delete it. And as for 9cds's comment, why should he post on my talk page when I asked him not to unless it was necessary, and when it's likely to cause arguments or whatever? --JDtalkemail 15:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say that anybody owned any pages, but if I'm not allowed to delete anything on my talk page that I don't want on there, then how am I supposed to not have him talk to me? ---JDtalkemail 15:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is that including, or excluding, when 9cds does it to me? --JDtalkemail 15:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You say that ignoring people is "very bad etiquette and is severely frowned at", but when I complain to 9cds about ignoring me, I get personal attack and incivility warnings. --JDtalkemail 15:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's a surprise, considering you were the person that pointed out where I had apparently been uncivil: User_talk:JD_UK/A1#Talk: Big Brother UK series 7 --JDtalkemail 16:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On that page, you pointed out this edit that I made. That's what I was referring to in my previous post. --JDtalkemail 16:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't seem uncivil; he managed to have the time to reply to other peoples' messages. And how does that message verge on a personal attack? --JDtalkemail 16:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Which it would appear he did... --JDtalkemail 16:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If my post "appeared" uncivil, which I don't actually see how, then I can understand why he didn't reply to the post; but that doesn't change the fact that he chose not to reply to my original post. --JDtalkemail 16:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't assume you were going to, and I didn't assume you did. I'm assuming there isn't a good reason for his not replying to my original message, and I couldn't care less, as long as I don't have to reply to any of his in future. --JDtalkemail 16:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any repercussions for choosing to ignore somebody? --JDtalkemail 16:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, can really see myself being an admin... Anyway, okay then. --JDtalkemail 16:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Doubt that. (the nomination, that is) --JDtalkemail 17:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then. --JDtalkemail 17:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting protection?[edit]

Can something be done about the constant reversions of the Buzz Out Loud article. I removed a bunch of unessary links which were not needed and possibly spam and 2 anoymnous users (perhaps 1 under 2 ips) keep reverting it? Can something be done perhaps semi-protection? - Mike Beckham 23:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to by contacting you. I have read the guidelines surrounding this and know 1 fanlink is ok but no more. - Mike Beckham 00:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you able to delete images I have uploaded at my request? If so, could you delete this one please? It's not being used on the article I uploaded it for, as I managed to upload a better one. --JDtalkemail 07:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish dishwashers[edit]

Thank you for helping me translate Spanish technical gibberish into English technical gibberish :D --Firien § 13:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BB06 Table[edit]

9cds and I are having another argument on Talk:Big Brother Australia series 6. I don't know if you want to get involved, or if you would even stay impartial or whatever, but he's insistent that the removal of the table on the article's main page must be. Could you try mediate it or whatever please? I'm trying my best to "stay civil", as you all keep putting it. --JDtalkemail 19:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And on the subject, what was that last warning for? --JDtalkemail 19:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't leave any warning on 9cds's talk page though, did you. --JDtalkemail 19:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks![edit]

Thanks for voting!
Hello 49TL/Archive/June 2006, and thank you so much for voting in my recent RfA. I am pleased to inform you that it passed with a final tally of (119/1/3), into the WP:100, so I have now been cleared for adminship and will soon be soaring above the clouds. I was overjoyed, shocked, and humbled by the tally, and, most importantly, all the support. Thank you. If there is ever anything you need, you know where you can find me. Take care.

--Pilot|guy 22:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geoff Hurst article[edit]

Re accidental deletion (as per User_talk:David_McCormick#Edit_to_.5B.5BGeoff_Hurst.5D.5D): Whoops, definitely accidental. Odd, I normally check afterwards too, but I must have been in a rush for some reason. Apologies, and will try to be more careful. (Question: Is the usual practice in discussions such as this to reply on your own talk page, under the comment written by the other person (as I first did), or to reply like this on the other person's talk page? I'm still a newbie really.) Thanks. David McCormick 17:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion[edit]

Hi, Please share your opinion on the spliting of a section at Talk:Windows Live Messenger Matthew Fenton [t/c] 20:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FireFox! Can you please give me some feedback on Image:EmailGHe.png? As long as it's readable, it should be fine. :P Otherwise, please let me know. Thanks! G.He 00:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A short Esperanzial update[edit]

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*Lurk*[edit]

Well, I've just been lurking around for a few years, usually while not logged in. :P Finally decided to fix up my page. Anyway, hello! :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firefox (talkcontribs)

Army of Ghosts and Doomsday[edit]

My intention wasn't to hoard the article. I've gone and unprotected Doomsday. :). Oh, and how have your exams been? Will (message me!) 19:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza[edit]

Hey. I don't think we have talked before but I'd like to ask you a question. I understand you a member of Esperanza. I'm interested in joining but I'm unsure of what exactly I could do to help the project. I understand that it is about helping the community but in what way could I do this? Normy132 07:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks heaps for that. You've convinced me to join! Normy132 10:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck[edit]

Hello. I am just posting to say good luck to you in the upcoming Esperanza elections, and I shall enjoy campaigning against you - you are a worthy opponent, as it were! All the best, and may the best man/woman/thing win! Kingfisherswift 16:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert to my user page[edit]

I would just like to point out this from Help:Talk page#Etiquette. "However, reverting such removals or redirects is not proper and may result in a block for edit warring." --LorianTC 19:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

question about dealing with a vandal (bad-faith AfD nominator)[edit]

Greetings; I left this note on the AfD discussion page for the University of Miami 2006 custodial workers' strike. "I would also like to hereby ask an administrator for advice on what to do if (when) DSJ2 nominates this article for deletion a third time without providing any new reasons, for I am sad to report that I expect this to happen. Thanks!" Universitytruth 13:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks much for the speedy reply. So we can send a user himself to deletion review? Cool. I'll be ready for that discussion, should it come up. Best wishes, Universitytruth 13:18, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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