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Kevin O'Leary[edit]

Hello Amost42n81,

There has been an edit war on the Kevin O'Leary page. Korny has tried to edit war in a large section about Donald Trump. OntarioTeacher has been mass reverting Korny's changes due to claims that it is ideologically biased, intended to be harmful to O'Leary's reputation, and contains loaded language. There are even grammatical errors such as a large run-on-sentence, that Korny denies exists, even though it has over 50 words and 6 clauses. Korny has been edit warring in pretty much the same massive paragraph on a daily basis for the past 2 months despite numerous objections on the talk page from many different editors. Some of the proposed changes are non-controversial, however. So, I have attempted to propose a compromise that omits some of Korny's more controversial statements, while retaining the parts that are relatively benign. We keep asking Korny to try a smaller edit, and/or only add the parts which have consensus, however these requests have fallen on deaf ears. Care to comment on the talk page? I'm asking you because you have edited the O'Leary article in the past, and you are an uninvolved editor. MohammedMohammedمحمد 04:21, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Justin D. Maddox for deletion[edit]

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SmartSE (talk) 14:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

April 2023[edit]

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Hello Amost42n81. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Amost42n81. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Amost42n81|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. SmartSE (talk) 14:03, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello SmartSE. Let me clarify: I am not being compensated, and I am sorry to have given that impression. I am familiar with Maddox through local politics and my connections to the State Department, but I have never met him or communicated with him in any way. I do have some friends who are associated with him and interested in his potential, and I agreed to create a page for him at their request. I am now retired, so I have time and wanted to get back into this. Incidentally, I omitted a significant amount of material for which I could not find proper documentation or which I thought would be too promotional. I certainly would appreciate knowing any specific problems so I can correct them. Amost42n81 (talk) 03:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again. I notice that the page I created for Justin D. Maddox has been deleted, but I didn't get a reply to my response to your initial questions about the page. I expected to receive some feedback--positive, negative or neutral. Can you tell me the rationale for deleting the page? If there is something I can do to restore the page, I will certainly try to do so. Amost42n81 (talk) 20:28, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Apologies for not noticing your earlier messages - if you want to alert another editor you can use {{ping}} e.g. {{ping|Smartse}} to send a notification. Thank you for clarifying the situation with Maddox and stating that you were not paid. There were several hallmarks which made me suspect that you could have been but it can be very difficult to distinguish malicious editing from inexperience. I nominated the article for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin D. Maddox) because I could not find sufficient sources to demonstrate that the notability requirements for biographies were met. Essentially, we need three sources (newspapers etc.) which discuss someone in detail and I could not find any. Unfortunately, nobody else joined in the discussion, so it was closed as a soft delete meaning that you can ask for the article to be recreated. I'd suggest that you only do this however if there are other sources which were not present in the article before. Either myself or Salvio giuliano can do this (or any other admin if you ask at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion). Regarding the non-profit you mentioned on my talk page, the notability requirements are similar to people, as described at WP:ORG, in that we need several independent sources providing substantial coverage. I'd be happy to review the sources you have/look for more if you would like before you begin writing anything so that you don't waste time writing about an organisation that could ultimately found to be not notable. SmartSE (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this. It clears a lot of thing up for me, and I will definitely follow your advice. I was a bit frustrated myself by the lack of documentation provided for Justin Maddox, and I declined to include a lot of material I was sent because it was either of questionable value or could not be adequately documented. And I told the people I was working with at the outset that I was not sure if Justin Maddox would meet the notability standard. I don't think I will have the same problem with the non-profit, but I haven't even looked at their materials yet because I wanted to wait until this was resolved. One of the things I have done in my edits is try to bring articles back to center where I see that the text doesn't truly reflect the documentation or I believe there is clear bias or animus. Thanks again. Amost42n81 (talk) 15:23, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Smartse: Amost42n81 (talk) 15:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The process for writing articles is to read sources and summarise them. You shouldn't be starting with text sent to you because even outside of sourcing issues, you do not own the copyright to the text. Who are the "people I was working with"? Could you also explain what happened with File:Alexander Ponomarenko, Russian Business Executive.jpg? You stated that you were sent the image by a representative of them - were you paid to upload that? SmartSE (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SmartSE:
To answer your questions: "People I was working with" was really a misstatement. A friend who has supported Maddox approached me about doing this. He gave me some information, pointed me to some sources and left the drafting up to me, which was our arrangement. There is no ongoing consultation, no approval of text. He understands and wants an article that will withstand scrutiny.
One the Ponomarenko photo: I was not compensated, unless you count "lunch is on me next time I see you." I have a friend who had a contract to do some work for one of Ponomarenko's companies (or more than one company; I'm not sure). She was in a spot and asked if I could help her out. I made some minor edits, but I had never worked with a photo before. I figured it would be an opportunity to learn and that it would be easy. It turned out to be more complicated than I thought. She had obtained the photo from his corporate staff, who clearly wanted to include it on his page, so permission wasn't an issue. It was his official corporate photo. Amost42n81 (talk) 14:43, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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