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According to Cricinfo editor Will Luke, the side was intially not popular amongst the teams that it played on its rise to prominence, with one-eyed keenness being taken for a win-at-all-costs attitude. Raees Ahmadzai confirmed this perception of insufferable enthusiasm, saying that cricket is all that his peers ever think about. "We play professional cricket," he told Luke. "We don't have a job; we only ever talk about cricket, always searching online about cricket. No-one has a job; we can't. No-one can pay; we have no sponsor. The only money we get is for our clothes. The ICC pay for the flights. So no one gets a monthly salary, and I've never had a job, in fact; none of us have. Thanks to our families, we are so lucky."[1]

Meanwhile, John emails in from Australia: "If this isn't the luckiest innings of all time then I'm going to China!" And Alex has his say, too: "Sometimes luck is all you need to get back in form, luck certainly seems to be with KP today!"

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Hi there[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia, it's great to see a new face working on cricket - particularly to get rid of one of the remaining Durham cricketers. Just eight first-class Durham cricketers to go! Bobo. 09:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My lists[edit]

Feel free to remove any and all bluelinks you wish from the Hampshire list - and any and all of the bluelinks from the English first-class county lists. By my calculations there are 325 Hampshire cricketers still to write about - so there's probably a lot of low-hanging fruit, as it were. All of the names will be retained in the history, so even if I want to see the full lists, I'm not worried eitherway.

Thank you for contacting me. I will see if there are any names that I can write about in the short term.

Some of the non-English first-class teams however, I wouldn't mind retaining the full lists of players, for reference and completeness purposes. Bobo. 09:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you![edit]

That's all of Durham County Cricket Club's first-class names done and dusted. I may be wrong, but I don't think there are any List A cricketers for Durham who have not played for the first-class XI who do not have articles.. (if that makes sense)..

There are still fourteen names for Durham Cricket Board who do not yet have articles - the top of this list has the lot. I'll see if there are any I can knock off. Awesome stuff! Now just to wait until March 29 to see if they get any first-class debutantes! Bobo. 17:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Mottram[edit]

Thanks for all the great stuff you're doing on the less famous Hampshire players. Excellent. I hope you don't mind, but I moved Thomas Mottram to Tom Mottram on the basis that that is what he was known as when he played: I was rather surprised no one had created an article on him before because he is one of the ultimate Hampshire heroes. He and Bob Herman formed what is probably the weakest-ever opening attack in a Championship winning side - weak on paper, that is, because they were highly effective! And when Hampshire replaced Mottram with Andy Roberts the following season, what did they win? Nothing! Cheers. Johnlp (talk) 10:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for creating this category. Once I get into adding the names of other cricketers in those lists of CB cricketers, we need to make categories for all the other Cricket Board teams. As ever, the lists are here, here, and here. Bobo. 21:55, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That explains it[edit]

I knew I had a name missing from Hampshire CB's list somewhere. Thank you! Bobo. 20:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Just as I would have done had I have got there first. :D Thank you very much. Still 311 Hampshire names to add. Let me see if there are any I can knock off quickly. Bobo. 23:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article Wang Lei (Chinese cricketer) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

biography fails WP:CRIN as Lei has never played a first-class or list a match

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Help please![edit]

{{helpme}} I am working from a list of red listed first-class cricketers and have by working through the list I created an article on a cricketer which already exists. The articles are John Taylor (cricketer, born 1923) and the one I created John Taylor (Hampshire cricketer). I am wondering if there is any way to delete John Taylor (cricketer, born 1923) (which has less information) so we do not have an article double.

Any ideas on how to delete John Taylor (cricketer, born 1923) would be appreciated. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 20:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, you should simply merge the content into one page and leave the other as a redirect.  fetchcomms 20:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, add the template on the other page as well. If there is no real opposition after a while (I doubt there will be) you can just put the information together.  fetchcomms 20:43, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 2010[edit]

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February 2010[edit]

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Hampshire redlinks[edit]

Nice to hear from you — I haven't had a proper chance to hang out on Wikipedia for a long time — I've been busy elsewhere.. but I hope you're doing well. Just check how many Hampshire redlinks we've got left.. 82, by my reckoning. None from Hampshire CB, as we know! Bobo. 16:33, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dorset redlinks[edit]

52 by my reckoning. I will see if there are any I could do at some point - though not this evening - quite busy. Hope all is well. Bobo. 22:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hampshire progress[edit]

53 to go! And just a month and a half ago it was over three hundred! Awesome work. Hope all is well. Bobo. 22:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orphan tags[edit]

Regards your comments on my talk page. If you now check Howard Lawson you'll find that it now has the required three links to no longer be counted as an orphan. If you have a birthday and date of death on an article and put in the links in the relevant pages, then that's two out of three links required. Orphan tags are there so editors can improve on the article (and particularly for WikiProject:Orphanage which I used to be a active member of until I realised I couldn't devote enough time to it). Orphan tags and other associated tags are not to mark an article down in any way but are essentially notices for improvement.

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Basanta Regmi[edit]

Hi. I see you un-Prodded this cricketer, but I don't think your reasoning stands up to scrutiny. The test of notability in WP:ATHLETE is representing your country at the highest level in a sport, and although the ICC Inter-Continental Cup qualifying matches in 2006 were ICC-backed, they were not counted as first-class (in fact, ICC specifically ruled the Namibia v Nepal match not to be first class - see here), so they're not "highest level". U-19 and U-17 matches have always also failed this hurdle, and several cricketer articles have been deleted on this basis. I'm inclusionist by instinct, but, as you know, lots of people not involved in cricket articles think we're far too generous with our criteria anyway, so when we find one like this that doesn't stack up, we have to be ruthless. Kind regards. Johnlp (talk) 23:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hear what you say, but I think the Wang Lei decision is a poor one, and might well have been different had it been copied to the list of cricket-related deletions that the WP:cricket people (like me!) tend to watch. The point is that in these areas we have to draw lines somewhere and after a lot of debate going back several years, the line on cricketers has been broadly accepted as anyone appearing in first-class or List A cricket as defined by ICC etc, and now broadened to include T20 cricket between teams that qualify for FC or List A. Yes, that throws up some oddities (the classic is Neville Shelmerdine), but it is at least consistent and it also complies with WP:ATHLETE. Maybe we should put this one up for AfD to open the debate up to others? Happy to accept a consensus as ever! Johnlp (talk) 17:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I'll try to get around to it this evening and democracy will be the winner (and maybe Basanti Regmi will be too!). Your work on Hampshire cricketers, BTW, is outstanding! Johnlp (talk) 18:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've put Regmi through the AfD process now and so please comment. I think your Prod of the Grand Master piece is going through: it's lasted four days without anyone objecting, so the article will go in three more days if that stays the same. If it doesn't make it through Prod, put it through AfD and I'd certainly support. Johnlp (talk) 21:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thanks! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 21:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cricket scorecards[edit]

I'd invite your comment at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Scorecards on wikipedia. Harrias (talk) 15:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For all your work creating Hampshire articles, I know from experience that even tiny cricket articles aren't as easy as they look! Now.. about Somerset.. Harrias (talk) 22:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hampshire cricketers[edit]

I assume that the note on the cricket project page means you've finished: many congratulations. A job well done. Johnlp (talk) 23:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Petersfield[edit]

Pardon me for removing the drivel that was here before. Are you aware that one of the all-time greats of English and Hampshire cricket is buried in Petersfield churchyard? See John Small, the article including a photo of his gravestone. All the best. ----Jack | talk page 21:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We're Laughing at you![edit]

No offence to people working for the ACS, but I would expect you are middle aged men with not too much going on in your lives. Even so, to use rather immature vandalism seriously hints you too don't have much going on in your life. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 09:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a graduate professor in history. I don't spent hours sitting making edits on WP. I merely find it amusing, whilst working on projects to see what new works of fiction have appeared and to try and correct. I'm going to Turkey in three hours so you gaze at your navel in peace. And you din't know who Richard Daft was! You could look on WikipediaRosebank2 (talk) 13:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well then you think you would have more sense than to disrupt this on-line endeavour so much to make your point. Enjoy your Turkey. SGGH ping! 10:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here we go again. ----Jack | talk page 18:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, AA. Once again, I am sorry that you have been dragged into this. You will have noticed, of course, that the person who is never rude is the one who accuses people of being "mental". Words fail me. ----Jack | talk page 20:21, 15 April 2010 (UTC) You may need to see someone John. But remeber............we're laughing at you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.10.67 (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi mate. See this. I think his school playground "are you ill" taunt was what finally did for him. This block of his entire IP range creates a precedent we can insist upon if and when he resurfaces. All the best and keep up the good work. I enjoyed reading your Gillette Cup item (being old enough to remember it at the time!). ----Jack | talk page 19:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 County Championship[edit]

Oh, I think he will be back, but at least we will have a month's respite.

There is no page yet for the 2010 CC. There are only a few pages in the Category:County_Championship so it looks like this is one of the areas where some work is needed. I think the problem is that the CC gets coverage in the English seasonal reviews. Regards. ----Jack | talk page 20:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hampshire[edit]

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Barnstar[edit]

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Raees Ahmadzai[edit]

Unfortunately, your guess is as good as mine! Andrew nixon (talk) 16:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Twenty20 Cup centurions[edit]

You recently went through and added a number of players to the Twenty20 Cup centurions cat - Ryan ten Doeschate, Adam Gilchrist and a few others that have scored centuries this year. However, surely that's not right, as the competition is no longer the Twenty20 Cup, but rather a new competition; currently known as the FPt20? Harrias talk 08:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you in terms of the sponsorship, I'd avoid using that. My only issue is that it is a completely different format of competition with different competition rules. I'd avoid having the competition at all, why not a broader 'Twenty20 centurions'? Harrias talk 18:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

Well, thank you very much. I fear I have a long way to go to emulate your achievement with the Hampshire players. But this is an unexpected bonus that encourages me to continue. Kind regards. Johnlp (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Asian Games[edit]

Last I heard, the ICC ruled that none of the matches would count as official T20Is. The reason is apparently because some teams aren't fielding full strength sides, though that didn't seem to concern the ICC at that recent tri-series in Zimbabwe. Andrew nixon (talk) 05:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stanley Park, Blackpool[edit]

I think the cricket ground detail may be best covered in the Blackpool Cricket Club article so as not to give undue weight in the context of the rest of the park. Thoughts? wjematherbigissue 16:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My players' lists[edit]

Hey there. Just wondering what you think of this idea. Using the easiest possible example, to not take up too much space and/or time. This is what I have at present:

Derbyshire redlinks
No names left to add.

Do you think this latter example would be any more useful? If so, I will implement it on all the English lists first, before importing it to the others - some of which I don't even think have categories yet.

Derbyshire redlinks (Cat)
No names left to add.


The Cat link obviously leads to Category:Derbyshire cricketers, or whichever category it refers to at the time... at least that's one way of keeping track of the bluelinks and the redlinks at the at the same time, once I've expunged all the bluelinks from elsewhere... Improvements or outright dismissal of this idea are as equally welcome as each other - it was just a passing thought. Bobo. 09:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On User talk:Bobo192, AssociateAffiliate said:
Go for it! Sounds like a great way to keep track of what has been done, particularly for those John Smiths out there!


Awesome, i will do that for the English first-class and List A counties initially, then, and see how many more I need beyond that. And I've just re-piped a John Smith on page 1. Thank you for pointing this out! ;) Bobo. 11:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On User talk:Bobo192, AssociateAffiliate said:
Wonder how many English first-class and List-A players are left to do?

If you mean players from English first-class teams, there are a total of 2043 left on the first page. That's an average of 204.3 per team! Still lots of mileage left in English first-class cricket! Bobo. 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A thought[edit]

Would you like rollback? If so, have a read of that link and let me know (here or on my talk page) and it's yours. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category links[edit]

I've added category links to the first players' list page (and lightened the background of the headings, since a red highlight on a red background doesn't show up very well..!). Please let me know if you think this hinders things in any way - or any other opinion for that matter - I was planning to run it through all the list pages. Bobo. 22:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates of Cricket Field Lane[edit]

I think that I have the coordinates of Cricket Field Lane corrected, but I don't have anything to confirm for certain that the new location is correct other than the fact that it's in the right city and looks like some kind of a sports field. Would you please check it, too? Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 15:24, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of cricket grounds[edit]

I think this is great and will be a really useful reference page when complete, although you've set yourself a hell of a task with all those redlinks. I've put it in my watchlist and I'll see if I can help with the redlinks, especially any ancient venues. I think the layout is okay, really, and you do need the contents so I wouldn't worry about those points. I've just a couple of suggestions which are to rename the "county side" column in the non-Test grounds as "first-class teams" and to include "dates of first and last use" in all tables. I'll certainly watch this with interest and see if I can help when time allows. All the best. ----Jack | talk page 20:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is excellent work. One suggestion: I think the Test grounds should include the date that the ground was first used for f-c cricket (and in the case of Bramall Lane last used) as well as when first used for Tests. The casual reader could easily assume at the moment that the first used date refers to f-c rather than Test cricket. Besides any info that appears in the other table ought also to appear in this one for consistency. JH (talk page) 20:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"It might be better for me to just include the current county team or teams like the Gentlemen and the Surrey Club who have used the ground multiple times, so as to keep that section compact." Yes, I agree, Surrey and the Gentlemen would be sufficient. I saw how you'd modified the row for The Oval, and at the moment one can't see the wood for the trees. JH (talk page) 08:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great work! JH (talk page) 08:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: T20 finals day[edit]

Yeah, my first visit to the ground, and I must say, it's a top notch venue! Other than the rain (which I won't blame on Hants) everything was superb. Obviously the result wasn't what I would have wished for, but all three matches were enthralling.Harrias talk 21:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cricket ground coordinates[edit]

AA, I've corrected the coordinates for a number of your recent additions (I've got one more to go, I think). A word of advice: stop using Google Maps/Google Earth to get the coordinates. As you've noted, they're frequently incorrect, especially near 0 degrees longitude (i.e. all of the UK). (I've been told why, but I don't entirely understand the explanation.) To get the coordinates, use Acme Mapper instead, it's far more accurate and you can copy the coords of the crosshairs out of the dialog box at the bottom right (they continually update as you move the map around). The gold standard for us coord nerds is Wikimapia, but its search facility isn't as comprehensive as Acme's, which in turn isn't quite as good as Google Maps', and Acme is a tad slower than Wikimapia. In the last resort, search for a site in Google Maps, visually locate it, then pin it down using Acme. Good hunting and best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 16:22, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can we be sure that the ground that Colwill Cricket Club were using back in 1926 was already Stowe Lane? Could they have moved grounds at some point? JH (talk page) 19:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True! I didn't have anything to do with the photo, but whoever uploaded it has clearly borrowed the text from what I wrote in the WCA article! Hopefully they have a good reason for believing it to be the same ground rather than just assuming it! I had a look on the Colwill Cricket Club site, but like so many such sites it has nothing on the clubs history. The references that I used for the WCA article simply said the "Colwill Cricket Club ground". JH (talk page) 20:19, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah! Let's hope they are correct; in the meantime I'll have a google and see what I can find. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 20:21, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Epsom Down[edit]

Hi AA. No, sorry, I've done nothing on that venue which was a bit later than my normal beat. I had a quick look at my records and I think there were just two first-class matches there in the post-Napoleonic period but there could have been others. I'll bear it in mind and let you know if I come across anything. Good work on the venues. ----Jack | talk page 21:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fennex's New Ground[edit]

Hi AA. This is the one you're looking for: New Ground, Uxbridge Moor. Fennex was a famous player at the time. ----Jack | talk page 21:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of cricket grounds in England and Wales[edit]

For G v P perhaps one could put a numbered footnote for the grounds affected at the end of the article aaying "Also hosted Gentlemen v Players fixtures". It's an important enough fixture that it would be a pity to ignore it completely. But I would delete mentions of "Gentlemen of the South" and the like, as I think they clutter up the entries and make it hard to see the wood for the trees. Great work BTW.

Well done! How many grounds would need a footnote? I thought that G v P had only been played at a fairly small number of grounds (Lord's. The Oval, Scarborough and one or two more). Also all the grounds affected could use the same footnote saying something like "Gentlemen v Players matches were also played on the ground". Admittedly that way you wouldn't get the dates, which would need a separate footnote for each ground. JH (talk page) 19:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bowman's Lodge and Cobham Park[edit]

Hi AA. No, I've not done articles for those two. There is an article about Cobham Park but I think it's a different place so you'll need to check that. I've got three games, two of them first-class, for Bowman's Lodge from 1806 to 1809. It was effectively the replacement for the old Dartford Brent. I've got just the one first-class game for "Cobham Park, near Gravesend" in 1792. This is not much but I hope it helps. Regards. ----Jack | talk page 18:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Austrian cricketers[edit]

Hi there. When I created the article you PRODded I was under the impression that Austrian cricketers were notable. Apparently not. No biggie. There are 13 others in the category if you wanna give 'em a look. Nothing against you in particular, but I've removed the PROD notice, as that, and many others, appear to be crowding my user talk page at the moment.

Hope all is well. Bobo. 18:17, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. Maybe in a super-inclusionist world, one day, Austrian cricket will be notable..! Until then.. we can hope! Bobo. 18:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Silliness vs. practicality... hope vs. expectation... ;) Bobo. 13:02, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slovenia[edit]

Cheers for the note. I will let it run. Again, Slovenian cricket, maybe not notable enough yet for Wikipedia..! Sigh... an inclusionist's dream... Hope all is well. Bobo. 16:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First-class cricketers[edit]

Of the first ten teams (that is, those cricketers on the first page whose bluelinks have been entirely removed) there are 2029 first-class players remaining (not allowing for those who have appeared since the lists were compiled). It's harder to count for the second bunch as I've never thought about removing those bluelinks... Bobo. 19:10, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm hoping there are a few of those 2000-odd that are easy to knock off - probably not for myself, as I'm not very active on Wikipedia these days - though I do check in on a daily basis to see if there is anything new going on. I'm guessing there are probably a great deal more on the later pages that are easy to get rid of. Bobo. 19:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Was wondering why you removed category:Minor Counties cricketers from Geoff Marlow. Wouldn't have thought category:Lincolnshire cricketers necessarily implied he played in the Minor Counties, particularly for someone whose main claim to notability was in another sport? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:51, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Following up on that, I've just read the definition of the Minor Counties cat again, and see quite clearly why you removed it :-) Which is a little confusing, because I wrote the Geoff Marlow article in May of this year, and added the category then. But the current category's history says it was created only three weeks ago, despite the talk page having conversations before that date? I'm convinced that back in May, the category said it was for cricketers having played in the Minor Counties championships, can't see why I'd have used it otherwise. confused, Struway2 (talk) 15:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation. I must have come across it without a description and made an assumption as to what it meant. cheers Struway2 (talk) 23:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Berkshire redlinks[edit]

Awesome! Dare I ask what's next on your hit-list? ;D Bobo. 18:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List A cricket[edit]

Hi. Can you remember, please, in all the new articles you're creating, that we usually use "List A" rather than "List-A" – ie, no hyphen? Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 20:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

KFC Commercial Controversy[edit]

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Female Cricketers[edit]

Hi, thanks for the note and the link to your list. I'm only interested in doing English players to be honest and I'm pretty sure most of the test players have an article. There's a lot of one day girls who don't though so if you've got a comprehensive list of those without an article I'll happily get stuck into it. Nick mallory (talk) 08:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Women's List A cricketers[edit]

Hey - hope all is well. Do you want me to write a list of women's List A cricketers to check off the list? I'll cross-post this to Nick, too, to see what he thinks. Bobo. 03:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The only problem is, the list is insanely long. I need a long period of time in which to sit and type them all out. I will get there eventually. Bobo. 11:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Langworthy speedy decline[edit]

Hi, I declined the speedy on this as it no longer meets "no context". It might be better to not tag new articles as such a mere minute after creation. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 15:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

200-odd new names[edit]

Two more teams added to User:Bobo192/First-class_players_lists_241-250 - will need to start a new subpage for the next team I add. Hope all is well. Bobo. 04:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have now created a stub article on Lord Bernard. Regards, Tryde (talk) 10:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I removed the PROD tag you placed on Wang Lei (Chinese cricketer) because articles that have been discussed at AfD are not eligible to be deleted by PROD. If you think the article should be deleted, you should start a new AfD discussion for it. Calathan (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A little concern[edit]

This note you left at WT:CRIC was clearly not neutral. Please try to ensure that future AfD notifications comply with WP:CANVASS. Also, I'm pretty sure that to "put certain users back in their place" is not one of our criteria for inclusion! wjematherbigissue 21:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure whether you saw this, but the PROD note you added to the article I created has been removed. Austrian cricketer, once again. Feel free to add to AfD along with the other Austrian cricketers if you wish. All the best.

And, as a sidenote, thank you for reaching these. Bobo. 19:22, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hampshire cricketers in the 18th century[edit]

Hi AA. To complete your list, can I refer you to List of early English cricketers to 1786 as this includes involvement by Hampshire players from 1764 in what would have been first-class matches but for the fact that no surviving scorecards have been found. You already have most of the 1760s players anyway, including legends like Small and Brett, as their careers continued into the 1770s. But there are more like John Bayton, Thomas Land and Reynell Cotton, all key figures in the Hambledon story, who should be in your list. List of early English cricketers to 1786 is complete in terms of all the known names but the article still needs some work in the notes section and I'm gradually getting back to that. If I can help you with any info about the early days, please let me know as I have all the main sources like Ashley-Cooper, Buckley, Waghorn and S&B. All the best for Xmas and 2011. ----Jack | talk page 06:48, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interview request[edit]

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Infoboxes[edit]

Quick comment: For players such as Gerrit Müller, for whom CricketArchive lists ICC Trophy stats, I'd say just list them in the infobox: better to have something than nothing after all! I'll try and update the template so that the box works without stats, so that the other players with this sort of issue can have an infobox with no stats at all. Harrias talk 21:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute resolution[edit]

Please join in on this dispute resolution, Talk:2011 Cricket World Cup#Matches section. Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 03:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AA. Well, I've done it but I haven't voted. Remember that failing the guideline does not necessarily mean the article must be deleted. Says so in CRIN.  :-) ----Jack | talk page 19:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers[edit]

Thanks for tagging Derek Culley - I have been watching the discussions on WT:CRIC and elsewhere and realized the discussions were aiming towards deleting cricketers such as these. I assume there are others in the Argentine, and other, lists...? All the best. Bobo. 22:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note - I still read WT:CRIC most days even though I don't contribute as much as I used to - and I have to admit I got a bit of a big head after being mentioned on the WP:CRIC section of the Signpost... Division 5, I'll have to keep that in mind and perhaps write some lists of people who I know are notable and keep off the list the names I know are not notable... Bobo. 22:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully so - it will be interesting to see the increase in cricket-related activity now that we've had a Wikiproject... Bobo. 23:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CRIC in the Signpost[edit]

I notice in the project's recent feature in the Signpost you commented that "say articles about Sachin Tendulkar and Shakib Al Hasan, they're like patriotic cult worship articles at times, with all sorts of "he is the best", "he is a god" nonsense appearing". Could you elaborate on that point, specifically concerning Shakib Al Hasan? I'm responsible for most of the article's current content, and am trying to keep it in decent nick ahead of the World Cup, and it is currently a Good Article candidate. I confess that things got away from me, but since October the article's been cleaned up. If you think there are outstanding issues with POV they need to be addressed. Nev1 (talk) 23:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. When you've created the article on Timothy Walton (1972), I think you'll need to alter the page title of the base page Timothy Walton (cricketer) to Timothy Walton (disambiguation) - and include the two cricketers, Timothy Walton (1972), Timothy Walton (1967), as well as Timothy Walton - the attorney. I remember discouraged from creating disambiguation pages which could potentially lead to further disambiguation pages.

As it stands, keep an eye on the disambiguation page to a single link, as I have previously had these pages deleted on the way to creating the second article with this name - leaving both names without a link to point to.

I hope this makes sense. Hope all is well. Bobo. 22:22, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the post-script - the situation has been fixed. Keep on trucking! Bobo. 22:30, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Typo alert...[edit]

Raised here and I think it's a typo of your creation! You might want to watch for that one in future (and whilst we all have our blind spots, fortunately Firefox's spellchecker saves me from most of them these days!) Regards, BencherliteTalk 00:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Find em correct them, don't bother letting me know about them. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 17:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A charming response....</sarcasm> I was merely letting you know so that you don't repeatedly create articles in future with the same silly mistake. If nobody tells you that you can't spell "dismissed" properly, what's to stop you churning out the same error time and time again, making work for others to clear up? I wasn't even asking you to correct them yourself, which is what one editor suggested you be asked to do. BencherliteTalk 17:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Touch typing = regular errors, so less patronising please. Wikipedia is a marathon not a sprint, so if people spot things they can tidy them, I do it, others do it (there's whole gangs of spelling police afterall). Clicking edit this page, ctrl + f to find the sentence, change the spelling, click save page. Huge effort that; shame there are people who negatively contribute here. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 18:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Quoted in Luke 2009.