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Hi, thanks, and a question[edit]

Thanks for the kind words, and it makes me glad to know there are others out there interested in Argentine comics. I have a question that, as I'm new here, you may have a clearer idea of than I do: How many categories and sub-categories should exist for Argentine comics? In light of the small number of articles extant in the english wikipedia for the sub-category Argentine comic strips, would it be best to merge them into Argentine comics? Especially since there is no corresponding sub-category for Argentine comics books? steventity 19:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

...for keeping an eye on vandalism on the Naples page. Also, the new monuments infox box looks fine. Much better than the old red one. Saluti da Napoli. Jeffmatt 07:42, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Questionable Slavic mythology entries[edit]

Dear Attilios,

I've noticed that you have made two new articles for Slavic gods, Peklenc and Ozwiena. I would like to see sources from which you have taken these deities, because I have personaly never heard or read anything of them, and from information presented in the articles, it appears to me as (sorry ofr being so blunt) as pure rubbish. Please understand that Slavic mythology is, due to sparse historical or archeological evidences, imensly fertile ground for development of fakelore. I'm trying my best to improve the overral very low quality of Slavic mythology articles on Wikipedia, and it realy doesn't help my efforst if unrefrenced articles on very suspicious "Slavic" deities keep springing up. --Hierophant 18:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is quite possible that someone in fact would come here and add such stuff, not nessecarily inventing it from scratch, but simply repeating some older invention; this is the essence of fakelore. A lot of Slavic mythology articles here are a production of various Slavic neopagans and/or romantics who use Wikipedia to advertise their own agendas. They also may have good intentions, but use completly obscure or unreliable or perhaps even, as you put it, "standard" books on the topic. Dividing fakelore from historical Slavic mythology is a matter of controversy even amongst the experts themselves, so the least wikipedia should strive is to demand ANY refrences whatsoever for topics concerning Slavic deities; most cannot even produce that. Thus, it would be wise to think twice before translating such unrefrenced articles from other versions of wikipedia. I'm strongly inclined to nominate these two for deletion. --Hierophant 19:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's your map priority?[edit]

The Livonian Confederation in 1260, Italian language version.

Attilios, of all the maps in User:Attilios/Map which would you like reworked first? I like the Livonia one, myself, but you no doubt are looking for some before others. It generally takes me a week or 2 for a map, so don't expect anything soon (unfortunately). And I may not be able to get to them all. MapMaster 19:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two questions:
  • In what article will the new Livonia map be used? I like to try to tailor each map to an article (or articles) and use the same names as used in the article etc.
  • What is the source of that map I am reworking? I like to include my sources on the Wikipedia Commons page.
Thanks, MapMaster 23:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'm done with the map and I think it turned out well! I also found quite a large number of articles that could use the map. I would be happy to translate it into Italian (or any language) if I had the help. Hope you like it. As you may know from my other maps, I am not able to include all the detail of the paper maps, primarily due to the lack of resolution available onscreen. Let me know of any errors or improvements. MapMaster 23:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Attilios, I have translated the Livonian Confederation map into Italian (see map at right). Could you review this for accuracy?? Perhaps you could also check my Italian User Page to ensure that it is grammatically correct. Any additions or corrections would be appreciated. Grazie, MapMaster 21:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fastifex[edit]

I'm sorry to here he's gone: I was really hoping to resolve this. Luckily he was being cooperative -- which is more than you can say about a lot of people involved with this kind of stuff! It's unfortunate that he hasn't been around, as he did contribute many helpful and constructive edits; hopefully if he comes back he'll look over WP:STYLE and work it into his subsequent contributions. Best regards, — Editor at Large(speak) 01:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Il mio inglese[edit]

Hai ragione fa schifo e quello che mi riesce suona davvero scolastico :) Non concordo però con te nel rimuovere tutte le mie ultime aggiunte in Gaetano Bedini .. alcune cose si capivano benissimo .. come tra l'altro la rimozione della "genealogia episcopale" e della "successione espiscopale" --Genovese 07:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The Pizza Tapes[edit]

Thanks for the edits to The Pizza Tapes. It looks better than it did before. Half of what you did I forgot to do, and the other half I forgot about. Looks better now, even though I spent a lot of time on it (and even taught myself how to make music sample in .ogg formatting) there's still little bits here and there. Thanks again. Dark jedi requiem 17:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paris Commune Flag[edit]

Atilios,

Sorry to revert your flag "move" on the French communes templates, but the pretext for your change was all wrong - there are no "standards" on Wiki. I do understand that the flag "down there" has yet to be adopted elsewhere, but please give it a chance. I'm just getting used to it myself. In fact, this solution seems much less awkward than putting the flag in the template, and there's something to say to the discression of its placement... if you have a better suggestion please suggest it, but until then please give the "new design" (and he who made it) a chance. Thanks and again apologies. THEPROMENADER 22:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Fortichiari[edit]

Hi and sorry for the delayed reply. I've rephrased and moved some stuff around in the process, but hopefully have not altered the meaning. Keep in touch. Dahn 15:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No prob. I'm glad to help. Dahn 19:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:1FW 190-D9 2 giallo Copyright Giovanni Paulli.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Tornado table[edit]

Very nice work. Mark83 02:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Panarjedde[edit]

You bet he is involved in edit wars. And the worst part about his edit war with me is that he had no recent history on those pages. Kingjeff 22:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you're going to get a response from this guy. He's deleted your message and he doesn't archive from what I know. Kingjeff 15:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's been at his little tricks again. Check Addhoc talk page. Kingjeff 18:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios! One request[edit]

I refer to the edit by WmLGann, 13:49, 27 October 2006 in the article Coimbatore


I am particularly concerned with the following edits:

No. 1

"is one of the major industrial cities in South India" to

"is an industrial city in South India. "

No. 2

"It is the second largest city in Tamil Nadu after Chennai and the fourth largest city in South India." to

"It has the second largest population in Tamil Nadu after Chennai and the fourth largest in South India."


The objective of both the edits is not clear.


Coimbatore is one of the largest industrial cities in India. The annual export alone, from this region is over US$ 1 billion. [1]. The city is well known for its heavy industrial activity.


Coming to edit No. 2, a city when being sorted among the largest cities, is usually sorted based on the population. The highest populated city in any country is the biggest city in that country. In that case, though the edit by WmLGann is not miscommunicating, it does not make any sense or it does not improve the article in any way.


So I kindly request you to revert it.

I was surprised to see this tagged for speedy deletion. The speedy tagger claims that it is taken from this page at the Web Gallery of Art site. I notice that you have posted this page. I think you should be given a chance to weigh in before the page is deleted. Perhaps your text is actually the original and the Web Gallery of Art has taken the text from Wikipedia? Uppland 15:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit on Rome's infobox[edit]

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. --Nehwyn 22:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A reply has been posted to your comment on my talk page. --Nehwyn 23:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]



Arborea[edit]

You asked a while back about biographies of its rulers. I cannot find any information. Do you know of sources I could search for? Srnec 05:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Modica[edit]

Ciao, mi rendo conto che il mio inglese non è il massimo ma allora potremmo unire la mia conoscenza della storia di Modica alla tua competenza linguistica? In fondo il mio, sebbene "poor", è un inglese comprensibile e, quel che più conta, le informazioni che vorrei inserire sono della massima correttezza, neutrali e aggiornate su opere di storici di grido, non certo di pseudo scrittorucoli di paese... Attendo risposta, grazie!

WikiProject Italy[edit]

Is there a WikiProject Italy? It might be helpful for your situation. Kingjeff 03:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be interested in start the project with me? We could see if there are more interested. Kingjeff 22:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the location of the proposed page. Maybe you could also help out with Austrian WikiProject. Kingjeff 23:37, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Italy/Naples[edit]

Sure, I could do that. What would I do that I don't already do? Jeffmatt 06:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AMA case[edit]

Hi, I'm going to be your advocate for the AMA case. Addhoc 16:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Panarjedde[edit]

I found the term that could get Panarjedde banned. "Gaming the system" means the use of Wikipedia rules to thwart Wikipedia policy. In his case, he reverted 13 times on different articles in a few hours. Even though it technically isn't against the rules to revert more then 3 times on different articles, it goes against the spirit of the rule. So this is a possibility to get him banned. Kingjeff 23:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's only because of a stern warning from your case thing against him. Kingjeff 00:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Enrico/Errico[edit]

Their webstite says "Enrico". Oh, are you SURE that the gigantic moving panorama is a good iea? I'm not. The reader was able to click on a small pan to get the larger one. Jeffmatt 09:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My behaviour[edit]

This is your opinion.--Panarjedde 14:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(From Talk:Rome)
OK, sorry. What about the infobox? And why are you reverting the wide images without first debating it in the talk pages as insted you pretend for me here? Wanna speak of hypocrisy?--Attilios 17:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am not asking you to collaborate with me, at the same time saying you won't; I did not say I wanted you to behave, and three minutes after that I really wnated you banned. You think you are allowed to be bold and revertinfoboxes without discussion, and yet you complain with me if I do something similar. You started all of this, sending me a message in which you offered collaboration and, at the same time, said I was not likely tom accept. I really think you do not want to collaborate, or even coexists, with people who do not like your ideas/edits; but this should be your problem, not mine.--Panarjedde 17:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfC procedure[edit]

Hi, regarding the AMA case, I think a RfC could be appropriate. In order for this to be valid, the users certifying the complaint are required to demonstrate their attempts to resolve the dispute. In this context, I would suggest you leave a note on Panarjedde's talk page outlining in what areas he could improve. Thanks, Addhoc 14:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you do, please, put it under User talk:Panarjedde/Warnings and blocks, it will avoid me to move it there. Thanks.--Panarjedde 14:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wide images[edit]

My reson for removing wide images is that you can't force a user to download a 6000px image. Think of modem users, for example from schools, why should they be taxed so heavyly?--Panarjedde 18:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Benedetto Brin ship.jpg[edit]

Hello.

I see you uploaded this image from Marina Militare website, tagging it as GFDL. Note that this licensing is not possible, as GFDL allows commercial use of the image, which has not been allowed by the copyright holder (a meno di attività a fine di lucro [(http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autorizzazioni_ottenute/MarinaMilitare]).

Please, find a better license.

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Floresta[edit]

The links i removed were incorrect. I removed them in order to enable my bot to add the proper ones. Are you the person who added many wrong interwiki-links to Italian community articles? Thijs! 00:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Barnstar!![edit]

Thank you so very much for the Barnstar. You are very generous and encouraging, and it is much appreciated. I am (nearly) speechless! MapMaster 16:36, 10 November 2006

Yes, I do think Wikipedia editing can be very difficult, so difficult in fact that I decided to give it up except for the occasional typo fix. I completely understand.
By the way, could you tell me more about your idea for the Cerveteri Etruscan necropolis map? As you note, I have done a couple of maps on archaelogical sites and this necropolis intrigues me. In fact, the Etruscans intrigue me. Let me know. I need to do a Central Park map, but after that . . . . MapMaster 19:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Michelangelo, Last Judgement[edit]

You removed my comment on Michelangelo's Last judgement, which mentioned that from afar the last judgement looks like a human skull. Have you actually looked at the last judgement from afar, focusing on the broad outlines? The arches up top represent the brow, the "puddles" just below the eyes, the light patch in the center the nasal cavity, and the watery area towards the bottom the mouth. It's pretty hard to miss, and I can't imagine Michaelangelo accidentally arranged the "light" and "dark" areas of the mural in that form.


Image:Heart of darkness cover.jpg[edit]

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Fiuggi[edit]

Thanks for your comments about my contributions to Fiuggi. I visited there about a month ago and am now making journal entries about my trip there (I live in Western North America). I like to do research on Wikipedia while writing my entries about places I have visited and found very little on Fiuggi. Had to go to other Internet sites to get what I wanted. While doing so, I couldn't resist adding what I found on those other sites to the Wikipedia page.

I came across the same problem concerning Chianciano Terme, Toscano. Perhaps you could view/edit that page as well. --Outwest14 11 November 2006

Technical Drawings.[edit]

Hi Attilios. You have a fantastic idea, I'm competant at drawing original material but by far what I'm best at is reworking old hand drawn diagrams into clean/modern pieces of computer generated graphics, such as those you have in this ageing text book. There are a few key things which is that a.) I dont speak italian, so any text needs to be translated for me preferably on the diagram itself to avoid confussion. Otherwise I'm very happy to do it, wikification of older text book images is a great idea. My email (which is probably an easier way to send scanned images over) is nick-daines<at>hotmail<dot>com. I look forward to seeing what diagrams you have. Theres no rush at all, as since my wasp diagram has been on the front page I've had a flurry of image requests, plenty to keep me busy until you get the book. Thanks WikipedianProlific(Talk) 12:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


WikiProject Italy[edit]

Here is the temporary page for WikiProject Italy. Kingjeff 17:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Enrico Rastelli[edit]

Attilios, thanks for your interest in the article on Enrico Rastelli, however he was not an italian juggler. He was born in Russia, although he lived much of his life in Italy. Hope you do not mind, but I have reverted your edit. --Colin E. 09:30, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Attilios. My English is so so but I'll do my best to provide you some more information and if not I'll ask sb else who's English is better. Greetings. Ludmiła Pilecka talk

Hello. I've added some translation (part of history) to the article. You can check and correct it. Regards. Lou talk

I just read this article and fixed a redlink. I really enjoyed it! It's nice to see someone contributing real, academic content. Mr Spunky Toffee 15:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Original Barnstar
For especially fine contributions to Slavic mythology. Mr Spunky Toffee 15:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map of Italy in 1000 AD (CE) added[edit]

Attilios, I have uploaded a map of 1000 CE Italy. However, I am at a loss as to how to describe the areas of Lombardy and Verona that appear in so many maps. I had originally listed them as the "Kingdom of Lombardy" and the "Duchy of Verona", but I now think I am mistaken. Any insight you have would be appreciated. MapMaster 23:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Munich[edit]

Would you be interested in helping out atWikiProject Munich? And you don't have to know anything about Munich. Maybe you could help out on bringing Munich-related articles up to Wikipedia Policies and guidlines standards or maybe another area where you could help improve Munich-related articles. Kingjeff 22:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Columbus is waiting[edit]

read what's written there.

Thanks[edit]

...for keeping an eye on the vandalism on the Naples page. Irritating, I know. Jeffmatt 10:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Footer[edit]

I made the box navigation on Nicholson's filmography. You reverted to that atrocious standard form saying it is a "footer". Could you explain me what a "footer" is? Thanks 201.37.247.93 18:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, again. Congratulations for the FIFA World Cup! Well, I know that, but I don't see problems upgrading the layout of the filmographies templates. Wikipedia is a mutant encyclopedia. We have "footers", as you called it, to directors filmographies and that looks great and cool, so I intend to continue with the filmographies templates, there's not a rule against it. Yes, you're right, I'm working hard here and it's sad for me see my work being reverted, friend. See you. 201.37.247.93 05:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Munich[edit]


It doesn't take much to participate. Kingjeff 16:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers[edit]

Ciao! I've read your nice articles for "Wikipedia in the news". Simply I wanted to point out that newspapers articles should be in italics, and article titles between "...". Good work! --Attilios 09:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I get that confused all the time - So the Title of the Newspaper should be italicized and the article title should be in quotes? --Trödel 16:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi from England,
You seem to have made a mistake, or our browsers or screen resolutions create odd effects. You say on my Talk Page:
"Be careful when you move images, like in John Cabot. Your last move created unpleasant blank spaces... Ciao and good work!
Not so, there are no white spaces in my placement of the Cabot statue (I’ve been back in the History and checked). I have Internet Explorer Version 6 on a screen resolution of 1024 by 768. I've been placing pics on WP since January 2003 so I'm very aware of whitespace and highly experienced in placement of pics (over 1500 pics off my camera on WP so far). So it's a mystery!! Could differing screen resolutions produce the effect? I've moved the pic up again but not quite so far. Is it OK for you now? Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 11:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Carlo Gonzaga[edit]

All I knew about Gonzaga was that he had been in command of the Spanish cavalry. I had assumed that this meant he was Spanish himself, but if he was Italian, fair enough. The same applies to Madrazzo and Baglioni; Oman only specifies their commands, not their nationalities.

(As for using Oman, per se: despite being quite old, he is almost universally cited as the best secondary source available for reconstructions of the battles during this period.)

Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 23:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that he Anglicizes (or, more likely, Francisizes) his spelling has little bearing on how accurate he is in terms of the narrative itself. Kirill Lokshin 23:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately ain't an expert in Italian wars... anyway I'm trying to work on the article to improve the accuracy. I will let you know (by the way, "Pietro" is clearly a misunderstanding for "Pirro", not a Francesizing). Bye.
Thanks! Particularly for the names of more minor figures, there's an obvious potential for error, as they tend to be mentioned once (sometimes in a footnote) in the source; thus, my knowledge of them is extraordinarily limited (assuming even that the source doesn't mess up the name to begin with). Kirill Lokshin 23:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, disagreements between historians and errors in reconstructions are fairly commonplace (the Battle of Pavia being one where there's a half-dozen different versions of events); but things found on the internet aren't particularly reliable sources most of the time, either. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 00:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great work on the various Italian Wars articles. Please don't switch reference formats, though; the Manual of Style generally forbids undiscussed stylistic changes in developed articles (and I personally can't stand the bizarre format {{cite book}} produces). Thanks! :-) Kirill Lokshin 19:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Battle of Marciano[edit]

Very nice work! I'll see if I can find some time to take a look at it this afternoon. Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 19:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Titles of nobility in article names[edit]

I'm not entirely sure which version applies to the people in question, but the naming convention for nobility suggests that the use of a title may be appropriate even when the identity is clear without it; so moves like the one with Gaspard de Saulx may actually be away from the recommended name rather than to it. (Or maybe I'm misinterpreting which portion applies to non-British titles, of course.) Kirill Lokshin 00:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, ok. :-) Kirill Lokshin 04:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP Munich participation[edit]

You might want to start on some Stub-class Munich articles of your interest. Don't forget to reassess the article (If Necessary) if you're able to bring it up yo a B-class article. Kingjeff 19:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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History of Polish Medieval[edit]

Hello. I'd like to help you but I'm not so proficient in biographical history, however if you have any problems with understanding you can count on my help, and my advice. In some cases I can also use some polish books about history - I have some of them in my "domestic library". If I can give you some advice - sometimes you can chceck the source in polish language with online translator: PL-EN, EN-PL - the english engine for Polski-Angielski, Angielski.-Polski. I know it's not a good way to write any translations, but sometimes it can give you some clues when you are confused about meaning. Huh... I'm also a newbie with TranslationProject - but I think it could be the best way to do some practise. So what kind of problems do you have. And what do you whant me to do, because my english grammar is poor ;) ... MonteChristof 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Virgine della Ghiara[edit]

Hi Attilios!

Good to hear from you! I took a quick look at the first article. It really needs only a little work to put the language right. Good work! Nonna--Amandajm 12:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AMA case[edit]

Has Panarjedde calmed down enough to close the case? Addhoc 12:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

delle Ghiara[edit]

Hi! I found this on Wiki Commons. Did you upload it? It's not such an artistic shot as the one with the arcade and cupola but I thought that it was very useful as it shows the facade.

--Amandajm 12:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simpliciano[edit]

What a stunning fresco! --Amandajm 13:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios!

I've finished the other buildings! Will you check them please! I hope that I have done them to your liking. Please also check out St Mary's Cathedral, Sydney which I have just worked over. It is a wonderful Gothic Revival building with quite spectacular windows, but no good photos of them. --Amandajm 11:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Risorgimento[edit]

Hey - I'll try to help if I have time. Please see also my comments on the talk page of that article - I had some suggestions/comments. john k 03:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Maria Sideniensis[edit]

Don't underestimate it's importance! Although it is not very old, it is the spiritual centre of the Catholic church for a very large region.

As for all the wonderful works of architecture that you mention, well, you and I will just have to do our best! I will take a loook at Milano and some of the others, add to them as much as i can. I must say that I find it much easier to write about buildings that I have seen like the cathedrals of Milan, Florence, Siena, Orvieto and the churches of Ravenna and Venice than to write from book research!

But i am familiar with many of the Venetian Churches and about 8 churches of Florence, not to mention having been to 40 churches of Rome in 4 days..... but our pilgrimage didn't count because we never got to the Basilica of St Pauls outside the Walls. I've been back to Rome since then and looked at quite a few of the titular churches.

Talk more later! ciao!

--Amandajm 12:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Latin form[edit]

Ah, ok. I copied the spelling of the title out of one of my sources, but that may just have been a typographical error on their part. Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 16:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure that Italian sources are no more immune to typos than English ones are! ;-)
But thank you for the Urbino article; it's a topic that's barely covered in English-language works on the period. Kirill Lokshin 17:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, yes; the 1911 is generally horrible for anything not related to British history. Even when it's accurate, it tends to be extremely judgemental. Kirill Lokshin 18:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just noticed that you made a large edit to November 17 a few days ago. There were a couple of problems with the edit. First, you used this format:

The standard format on those pages is described on Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year/Template. Multiple entries for the same year should be formatted like this:

The second problem is the redlinks. Since Carlo Verdone doesn't have a Wikipedia article, we can't include him on those pages. Several of the entries you added were redlinks, so I had to remove them. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 07:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:D6[edit]

Please see my reply at User_talk:D6#BOTed_templates. -- User:Docu

Coats of arms for Swiss municipalities[edit]

I'm confused. At Grenchen you made an edit, saying coat fixed. But when I look at that article, I see that the coat of arms has now disappeared altogether. What were you trying to achieve with this edit?

Edit to add: I see Docu has now fixed it. But the question above still stands.

What is required is to place the image within the imagepath_coa field of the {{Infobox Swiss town}} template. Then you can see both the name and the coat of arms (if the latter exists). I suspect the reason for Docu's recent edits to the template were to try to get some sense of consistency about this template and the articles that reference it. Historically, the municipality articles were in a mess: some used a coat field, some imagepath_coa, and others made use of either one of these and placed the coat in the subject field. Now we at least have the potential for some consistency. As I said, all that is required is to identify the municipalities that aren't displaying the coat of arms correctly and edit them to make use of the imagepath_coa field. I can do this once the database dump started on 30 November has completed. (It will probably take a few more days.) Then I can run a Perl script against that dump and identify the remaining municipality articles. I'm not expecting very many, but we will see. Regards, --BillC 19:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians gives Giammateo Asola as the main spelling of his name, and Asula, Asulae, and Giovanni Matteo as alternate spellings. Do you have a source which is more reputable which gives the other spelling? Mak (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you google the names, you get 2200 for Giammateo, and 31 for Gianmatteo. Also, your commented text rubs me the wrong way. It's not a good way to encourage people to work together cooperatively. Mak (talk) 00:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please respond. If I don't hear back from you by tomorrow, I'll change the spelling to the more common one. Thanks, Mak (talk) 18:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I understand how sometimes new messages can become lost :) Grove has recently been thoroughly updated, and is considered the source for music topics. I was only using google as a secondary way of looking at the issue. The disparity is so huge, I see it as a fairly valid result. If you look at the rules for naming conventions, the deciding factor is generally what the vast majority of English speakers use. Thus, rather than "Nippon", we have an article on Japan, etc. Also, since he was a 16th century composer, it's not surprising that his name sounds outdated to you. Mak (talk) 19:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please point to a modern Italian source which uses your preferred spelling? Just because it is the current spelling in general of this name, it does not necessarily follow that it would be considered correct for this composer. It is my understanding that many times in compound words, it is not unusual for combined consonants such as nm to become a double mm, I saw it all the time when I took Latin. Lastly, the journals Early Music (1999) Journal of the Royal Musical Association (1992), Journal of Musicology (1991) and others, use the double-m single-t spelling. Mak (talk) 21:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC) <-- Mak (talk) 16:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Are you monitoring Francesco Patrizi?[edit]

I can't really judge for myself on the issue, but I appreciate it that you are going ahead and trying to resolve the dispute on the talk page. I'll stop by occasionally to see how the discussion is progressing. Nishkid64 21:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Sancino[edit]

What was the Battle of Sancino? I had to remove it from the page for Battle of Pavia because it is not recommended to have red links in "See Also". --Ineffable3000 21:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, can you please include the source for the information you just provided? --Ineffable3000 21:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Daredevil[edit]

Hello Attilios,

I thank you for your efforts in patrolling the Daredevil page. I apologize if you felt that my edit was vandalism.

In the same regard as the link to the Marvel Directory a few spots above, the Marvel Database is an online reference in the same niche. I used the inter-wiki link for proper formatting.

Please accept my apology and reconsider my edit's value. If you agree that it is a worthwhile link, let me know and I will re-add it.

Regards,

--74.109.102.42 23:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Duomo di Milano[edit]

Ok! .... so it's all happening down at il Duomo, then ..... Check it out!

--Amandajm 07:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Henries IV and V[edit]

Thanks for the information. Henry IV was bad, but Henry V is worse! I will probably do more work on both soon, as I did do a big overhaul of Henry III a while back. A lot of major figures get less than their due at Wikipedia because it is such a daunting task to write a great article on such massive personages. Good job, by the way. Srnec 18:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you...[edit]

...for watching the vandalism on the Naples page. Jeffmatt 08:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you leave more specific edit summaries? Thanks, Ghirla -трёп- 10:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Renaissance Architecture[edit]

Hi Attilios!

Thank you for fixing all my mistakes! Great job!

But WTF have you done with the dates? Pleeease put them all back or Nonna will get cross with you!

--Amandajm 12:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah![edit]

I've come to that conclusion!

The reason why I left Raphael in is that someone previously put in Leonardo, Raphael and Micky-boy. Now, I removed Leo because all he did was doodle on paper. But I left raphhael because he did actually build things, he WAS employed as an architect for a time, and I don't want to ride rouughshod ovver other people. I havve already been moore or less accused of that!

Buggga this kkeyybbboard!

Annyway, if we go sticking in alll the lesser known bbods, there won't be enough room! I think that all the non-Italiann Renaissance things should each have there own page.... that way the person who contributed the Hungarian things will be happy,, Gian who writes so well about English buildings will be happy. Someone cann finnish the Spanish thing and more than six lines on Portugal. Renaissance Arch. in Ggermany needs its own pagge. And sooo on/.hat do you think? otherwise it will be blown oout of all proportion. I would ask Gian first.

--Amandajm 12:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Dates[edit]

No, Attilios,, this is about clarity,, OK. It's about being able to find your way around a big article easily. It needs the dates bbecause that is how you make simple direct comparison. Comparison is a key tool in learning. And my liittle three-name lists are similarly learning devices and a guide to what is in the section immediately below. I can dispense with the little lists if you insist bbut put the dates back!

We are not going to be that pedantic about style. If it is a passing reference, then thhe date is not necessary. But these are not passing references.

Attilios![edit]

The dates are necessary to the article. No-one wnts to hop back and forwrd between articles just to find out something as simple as a date. I don't bbelieve that the rules say that dates muust not be included if there is a page on the person. If there is such a rule then it would be a stupid and impractical one.

Now, Pleeese don't invit people to edit the Michelanggelo, Romano and Palladio bits, just as I am in the middle of writing them! That would be a conflict and a nuisance. I'm going to finish those three right now if you will jjust get out of my hair for a little bit and let me get on with it.

Re- the very poor Italian- I am aware of my own shortcomings in this area. I really need someone like you to correct my Italian. One problem is, of couurse, that I gget information from old English books, or sometimes from books written in Italian and badly trannslated. it doesn't hhelp at all. With regard to the San Francesco building- my book clearly said that it used to be called that. That is the sort of thing I mean! it can be a simple ignorance of Italian or local practice!

--Amandajm 13:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One book says Tempietto, the other, by a German, says Tempio. BF says Tempio. Thanks for fixing it!

And yes, you are quite right about Palladio of course, he is the other one that has to go in! Do you want to go hunting for a good wikicommons pic of Palazzo Tè while I write the next bit?

Ive got plenty on Paladio actually, but I've been using a bnice little dictioary of the renaissance bbecause it puts a lot of basic facts in a small compass and is easier to use for the biographies than sifting through a volume as big as an encyclopedia, evenn if they do have lots of distractingly pretty pictures. Back to work

--Amandajm 13:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So just explain this- is it the Tea Palace for drinking Tea (because it's just a sort of single storey thing in the garden where one might have tea parties, or is it really named after the island and if so, at what point did the name go wrongg because my Italian sources have the Tè? I'm happy to leave the grave off. I never know which way they go anyway. It's one of the things I'm hopeless at! (But I do write good poetry).

--Amandajm 14:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dates in Renaissance architecture[edit]

Attilios, I have searched for some rule pertaining to the use of dates and can't find one.

But having examined other articles my conclusion is as follows-

if the dates of the persons life is of no particular relevance to the particular article, then you leave them out, eg.

But

When the person to whom one refers is introduced with a heading and is the whole subject of the paragraph- their work being absolutely integral to the understanding of the article and the article is framed as an historic progression, then dates are not only desirable but necessary.

I am reinserting them, because these are not mere passing references to the people- the work of these people is the whole subjject matter of the article.

I am sure that you can understand this, and that your persistence is really making me very cross. I realise that one can look up all the details of these people elswhere, but that means continual cross-referencing which continually interupts the flow of the article. That is not stylistically desirable. A surfeit of intternal links is not encouraged if the material can be neatly encapsulated. Dates help in this way because they give a precise time frame.

--Amandajm 08:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Attilios ![edit]

I still don't understand about the Tea thing! I put the Il back with the Gesu because that's how English speaking art historians refer to that church. Don't ask me which way the little thing goes on Gesu!

Thank you for understanding about the dates! Time I went to bed! Ciao! hello im english and i just decided to edit your comment how is italy i can imagine its beautiful! --Amandajm 14:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Back to the Renaissance![edit]

Oh, I keep getting into trouble from other people for putting in too much about Italy. It seems hard for them to understand that Renaissance architecture actually began in that country!

I will now edit your additions into flowing English and hope that people do not complain! I think that I will have to write a brief summary of Renaissance Architecture in Italy for this page, then remove the more detailed info to another page called

Renaissance architecture in Italy or Italian Renaissance Architecture. Which one is best?

--Amandajm 14:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Nonna[reply]

Certosa is wonderful! I must read the whole page. But for now, the first picture, of the facade is on the wrong side! This is not artistic layout. This building must face inwards. There are two solutions.

  • it is possible to use some control to make the table of contents go to the right. But this has some problems.
  • perhaps a different picture could be put first. With the beautiful facade put on the left, further down so it looks in.

Can I rearrange this page??

Oh yes! What about Santa Maria della Consolazione, Todi. Is there anything on that one yet?

--Amandajm 15:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

I don't think that we ought to extend the discussion of the different regions of Italy any further on that particular page, because it's already very long.

What it needs is for there to be written a brief paragraph on Germany and another paragraph on the Lowlands. I will have a look at my handy Banister Fletcher and I have just found another good book on my shelf which has information about Germany. It also has some very good, well translated writing which I have been enjoying!

I have at last found an old picture of the Laurentian Library. It was all brown and stained so I scanned it and cleaned it up digitally. I'm quite pleased with it now.

When I was first there, many years ago, there were two horrible rude people! The door was open so I walked up the stairs and stood on the landing, looking in. So a man came along and without speaking to me, shut the door straight in my face. So I knocked on the door and a woman opened it, exactly enough to poke her nose and one eyeball through. So I said "I am a student of architectural history. May I please look through the door?" She said "No you cannot!" and pulled her nose out. But then she remembered that she had noticed I had a camera so she stuck her nose through again and said "No fotografia! and pulled her nose in quickly before it got broken.

--Amandajm 15:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Emperors, Popes, and Frangipani[edit]

I remember trying to decide whether or not to create an article on Cencius Frangipani a while back, when I had a source right in front of me. Now I'll have to go back to the library. Good work on the emperors (are you planning on doing Henry II and Conrad II? No pressure...). Srnec 16:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Henry II and Conrad II aren't too bad, just in need of some structuring. Srnec 16:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Havok & Wolverine.jpg)[edit]

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Thanks[edit]

I was wondering how come a page on the history of Islamic Sicily was not yet created and I was thinking of making one my self. Thanks belong to you; I don't have to do this anymore. Your work on that page is a good work and I hope you would also write on the influence of the Islamic conquests on the culture, economy, and the agriculture of Sicily. I heard that this influence can still be discerned until today. Marwan123 04:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • My native tongue is Arabic but I reside in Canada. I would be more than glad to offer any assistance to you in interpreting any Arabic texts that you ay encounter. My humble services are to those who contribute to the betterness of the wikipedia. All the best. Marwan123 23:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does this sound like the right Cencio Frangipane? I could find nothing in the Dizionario about a 1075 incident against Gregory. I added that info from online sources. Srnec 04:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The Barnstar of High Culture[edit]

The Barnstar of High Culture
For your numerous and seemingly unending stream of quality articles. Kylu 05:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

San Marcos[edit]

I've finished editting San Marcos! I hope you like it. I can't believe what time it is! i haven' been to bed yet. Good morning!

--Amandajm 17:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Ren Arch[edit]

Dear Attilios, thank you for your corretcions! very good. I have made some things more clear. I put back the bit about Cosimo being a banker, because, if you read, you discover that the picture illustrates 3 seperate points!

The Tempio is back also, with more explanation. Thank you for the correction.

Also-

I have put into the Introduction a subheading which may not be correct style but you will see it and observe that it is there for the ning-nongs who don't understand! It says-

Italy was the home of the Renaissance.

Did you like what I did at San Marco's. I'm glad you wrote that article because on the Fra Angelico page someone wanted to link it to St Mark's Venice! People do not bother to check the links, if it goes blue they presume it is alright. How many St Mark's are there in the world? --Amandajm 05:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't you come the raw prawn with me, Mate! You know which Freddi it was ! It was Fearsome Freddi with the missing eye and the bonky nose! Freddi Wotziznaim! That's who it was! --Amandajm 12:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No! you are perfectly correct! It wasn't Freddi with the schnozzle! That was Freddi from Urbino! And honestly truly, I have drunk no wine! We are not so civilised here as to drink wine with every meal, partly because the alcoholic content of Australian table wine is rather higher than is usual in Europe. Pity. There is nothing to drink in the house except Drambuie and pineapple juice. --Amandajm 12:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Matronaeum[edit]

There is a good one at S. Cecilia in Trastevere, Rome. It's an ancient church, quite transformed during the Baroque period. Still has a convent of nuns. --Amandajm 13:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks on Finale Ligure[edit]

Thanks for greatly expanding the article on Finale Ligure. When I created the article last year, it was virtually the only English language article devoted to a town in Savona Province, and the Italian page on the town was merely a few paragraphs. Both have certainly come a long way since then. (Absolutadam802 22:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]

I agree wholehearteadly, as a longtime lover of that area (Varigotti is my beach, I still have a holiday home in nearby Borgio). (User:Basil II 21:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Basilica Palladiana[edit]

Hello, I'd like to ask you to revert your edit of the Basilica Palladiana. As it is now it explicitly states it is a Renaissance building, which is untrue. My original text explained that only the outer shell is (Palladian) Renaissance, the structure itself is Gothic. Thanks. Venetian 01:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Certosa di Pavia[edit]

Done it. Added a bit here and there. Changed the pic for that nice one from the small cloister, because it was looking out instead of looking in. Other than that, the pics fit the text fairly well. Hope my descriptions are accurate.. Its hard working from photos.

--Amandajm 07:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query On 16 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Certosa di Pavia, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomanganitalk 01:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar Attilios, much appreciated. FYI, I nominated this article of yours to put on the main page, when we were running low on supply. Please do feel free to self-nominate. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Duchy of Parma[edit]

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  • There is a chapel there which is extraordinarily magic, with blue mosaic and golden beams of light. What is the name of that chapel? Do you know the details? I suppose it dates from about 1900.

Sant'Antonio's is a very special place for me. I have written a poem about it. The first time that I was there, I was feelling very miserable, and all a sudden, something like a lttle miracle happened. (It was a remarkable co-incidence but a co-incidence that required a llot of preparation on the part of the people who made it happen.) There was a service in the chapel whhere the Saint is bburied. I was walkingg along the opposite side of the building feeling very depressed when suddenlly a great choir bbegan to sing the Te Deum. They sang it to an English tune, which we always used when I was a child at my tiny wooden parish church in a little village 70k from Sydney. Of all pieces of Church music, this is the one that I have sung, almost every day of my life since I was a child. So I felt as if they were singing it especially for me.

Buuggger this kkeyboard! It dooes doubble letter all the time! I have to edit everything I write several times to fixx it!

--Amandajm 00:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done Sant' Antonio. Chech it out and pleeeese get back and tell me whether you like it. It has more info- a more precise description of the architecture, which you can add to the Italian article.

--Amandajm 10:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios! I haven't sent the poem yet! I also haven't done Donatello yet!

There is a problem with writing large articles about major subjects - every time you turn your back someone removes something important or adds something ridiculous. I keep putting out spot fires. Do you know about spot fires? In this country, every year there are fires in the forest ( which we call "the bush"). They are "Bushfires". Every year around Christmas, there are huge blazes, sometimes with a front of many miles, particularly when they are in mountain ranges which have deep valleys which are almost inaccessible. One of the things that happens is that little pieces of burning leaves and twigs float down and start 'spot fires' here and there. Luckily it has been pouring rain all day, so maybe we will have a fire-free Christmas, at least on the coast. Anyway, I have check some other articles for spot fires. Ciao! --Amandajm 09:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Giovanni Pauli images[edit]

You may wish to contribute your opinion to the discussion on whether "use in exchange for advertising on Wikipedia" deals like the one you made will be allowed. Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Permission_to_use_in_exchange_for_ad_space. - Emt147 Burninate! 00:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and removed the Giovanni Pauli images from the articles to which you linked them to. If you can get Giovanni Pauli to agree that crediting him as the copyright owner and artist of the images and including the link to his website on the image's page is acceptable, then perhaps the images can be included in the articles again. --Bobblehead 07:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the image from Focke-Wulf Fw 190 again - displaying the link back to his website is advertising, and there are clearly free alternatives to this image. Please, either discuss the topic with Giovanni Pauli, or accept that the images with advertising aren't desired in the article. ericg 01:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Giudicati map[edit]

Attilios, I have added a map to the Giudicati article. Let me know your thoughts -- I am a bit puzzled about the use of "Calari" and "Cagliari". Are they completely inter-changeable?? As always, I would be happy to make changes. MapMaster 22:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Cuneo (1691)[edit]

Hello Attilios, may I ask what was your source for the siege of Cuneo article. Thanks. Raymond Palmer 23:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings, Attilios![edit]

are you having a holiday? I hope you have your camera!

I'm working on Michelangelo a bit and need a translation. Someone has put this in:-

"The Ignudi (singular: ignudo; from the Italian adjective nudo, meaning “naked”) are the 20 athletic, nude male figures ...... Most of the figures are surrounded by a huge garland of oak leaves, and clustered about them are thousands of acorns resembling the penis, or "prickhead", in Tuscan slang (testa di cazzo). The most likely reason for their abundance is that Pope Julius II, who commissioned the work, was of the della Rovere family ("of the Oak"): they function as, perhaps, Michelangelo's allusion to his patron."

What I want to know is this:-

Are these acorns commonly known by the slang "testa di cazzo" or is this an association made by the writer?

My feeling is that, although the acorns do look like penis heads the inclusion of "prickhead" and so on in the article is irrelevant unless either they (or the Pope) was commonly called "testa di cazzo". Actually, I can't imagine anyone referring to Pope Julius II as a dickhead- he would have them dealt with!


--Amandajm 11:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coast of arms for Italian municipalities[edit]

Hi,
Sulla WP:fr lavoro tra l’altro sui comuni italiani. Nell’estate scansa abbiamo migrato tutti i comuni italani verso la WP francesa.
Generalmente, ogni comune italiano aveva una stemma. Ma…sea questa stemma era in fair-use sulla WP:it, sea era in GFDL su Commons.
Prudenti, abbiamo scelto di montrare solo le stemme su Commons ; le altri sono nascoste.

Alcuni giorni fa, ho visto che la stemma di Castelforte era con GFDL sulla WP inglese (la tua immagine). Immediatamente ho meso l’immagine su Commons (forse troppo presto !).

Hum…. C’è un piccolo problema : forse su Commons, l’immagine non è in GFDL, bisogna chiedere a (chi ?) se….
Vorrei avere una risposta «vera» per l’utilizazione delle stemme italiane (un sogno?).
Ho lasciato un messaggio su Commons.
Se potessi mettere alcune frasi (a chi hai chiesto l’autorizzazione, perché e come ?), sarebbe bene. Grazie. Jpm2112 15:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would be happy to make the corrections. I'm wondering whether to try to fix up that map, or start fresh. Give me a week. Sincerely yours, MapMaster 02:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maps in German info box[edit]

Just to let you know there have been some developments, and those maps are currently deleted on commons and de-wiki as they are replaced by a generic map where the dot is overlayed from the co-ordinates. There is also a template currently in development {{Infobox German Location}}, which uses the same behavior. See WP:GER for more details. Agathoclea 13:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, today I noticed that there was no article for rollatini, so wrote one. But I wonder if this is a real Italian word or an Italian American pseudo-Italian neologism. I am looking through the Italian cuisine articles and finding them to be not very good, the edit histories showing that we don't really have any Italian people or Italian food experts working here. I found that you live in Italian, and wonder if you could help with this. Thank you, Badagnani 23:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AIV reports[edit]

I've removed the same report twice now, like many admins I tend to list the reasons in my edit summary so it can be worth checking there before relisting. Since the user hasn't revandalised since you warned them, you misrepresent the vanadlism one of the 4 items was perhaps sneaky the other 3 bits were not. The user doesn't regularly vandalise so we have no reason to believe it is the same person and blocking. At the moment they've stopped if they start up again in the next few hours feel free to relist them. --pgk 12:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed the second listing of this was not by you, but by someone cut and pasting your original report including your signature. --pgk 12:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That was me. The original report (with signature) was placed on the AIV talkpage by mistake. Tonywalton  | Talk 12:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, it's probably not the best idea to dignify that type of vandalism with the word "smart" when giving the vandal a warning - "Ooh, they think I'm smart, let's do it some more", thinks the vandal… The {{verror}} through {{verror4}} templates might be worth considering! Regards, Tonywalton  | Talk 12:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani[edit]

Do you think it would be wise to include a category for articles based largely on or sourced largely from the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani? Srnec 14:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Thanks for succ box[edit]

No problem, when I get back from a meeting tonight, I'll try to do the other boxes. In truth, I shouldn't have marked the predecessor to Alexander Sforza as "none", I knew that it had numerous periods of Papal State rule, but I didn't realise there were actually previous Lords of Pesaro. In fact, researching it there was a Malatesta dynasty of some seven Lords. However, I'm pretty sure that none of them have a Wiki page, so all I can leave is a dead link to the previous Lord. I get my info from here, btw; it's a really useful site. If you can think of how to make a page with little-to-no info except a succ. box to put in it, feel free to make them, or give me some hints. I made some Monarch stubs for Princes of Wallachia a year or so ago, but with so little info they just didn't seem right. Well anyway, I leave it to your more-experienced judgement.

Thanks for posting that, btw. I do odds and ends when it seems sensible, occasionally I work hard on a project when I have the time, but I've never had feedback before. It's always nice to know that people out there are noticing my work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falastur (talkcontribs) 19:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Can you see this map?[edit]

Attilios, User:Srnec has told me that he cannot see the map at Duchy of Amalfi (Italy 1000 AD). Could you go to that page and let me know whether you can see it?? Grazi, MapMaster 01:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award[edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award
I Hpfan9374, hereby award you with the Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award, for contributing an especially large body of work without sacrificing quality. Hpfan9374 08:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Catholic Encyclopedia[edit]

I have been working on straightening out some articles on Saints, and am appalled at the stuff that get copy-pasted from the Catholic Encyclopedia. I noticed that you had a some interaction with the content from this wonderful resource ... I was wondering about a template to put on article that are obviously entirely or mostly cut-paste jobs. I am relatively new here, so I thought I would follow the conversation trail to you and ask: 1) have you seen such a template, or 2) how would I go about getting such a thing created? I simply don't have time to do a re-write for every blatant catholic encyclopedia article I come across. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Pastordavid 09:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Attilios![edit]

Where are you?? I haven't had any communication for ... since Christmas? Are you alive and well? Or on holiday....

You must take a look at Renaissance architecture because there are a whole lot of names of buildings that are just crying out for articles- Palazzi and Churches- It is just what you are so good at.

What a great collection of Barnstars you have!

--Amandajm 00:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Attilios![edit]

I will go and look at your articles. I'm glad you did Santa Maria Formosa... I love that church!

You can check out Sistine Chapel ceiling which I have just been working on and also Sistine Chapel - restoration of frescoes. Oh, dear... the more that I compare the before and after photos, the more that I am convinced that the restorers went overboard. They seemed so sure that it was all buon fresco, but I am convinced that Michelangelo came back to it and added shadows, definition, and eyeballs.

Ciao! --Amandajm 15:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing information from Roman military personal equipment[edit]

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Thirty Years War map[edit]

Your suggestion that I create a Thirty Years War map is very intriguing. It is a lot of work -- and I haven't even begun to fix (or re-create) the map for the Battle of Garigliano (1503) yet.  : ) Let me give this some thought. I do certainly love that map. Do you have a reference for that??

Also, were you able to look at the map at Duchy of Amalfi? Can you (your browser) read it?? Let us know on the Talk page there, if you would.

And thank you for your confidence and support, MapMaster 13:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure what to do next. I'm tending to think that I would like to continue to do maps of Italy (rather than Germany), perhaps because I am beginning to understand the Italian historical "landscape", and also to provide map consistency within Wikipedia, but I am not sure. I would certainly love to see the old maps you have. Given the detail in those maps, I do think that you are correct and that we would need to create sub-maps . Thanks again, MapMaster 18:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would love to see the map of Italy around the year 1300. That date fits well between my other Italian map dates (1000 AD, 1154 AD, & 1494 AD).
Also, I made the modifications to the Battle of Garigliano (1503) map that you requested. Due to the stub-iness of the article, I decided not to spend the time to re-create the map, but just fiddled with the existing elements. Hope this is OK with you, old friend. MapMaster 04:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorrento[edit]

Ciao Attilio, ti scrivo perchè vorrei avere delle spiegazioni in merito alla rimozione avvenuta da parte tua del link Sorrento tourist guide dalla pagina dedicata a Sorrento. Non pensi che si tratti di un sito attinente? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.7.195.141 (talk) 19:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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Hi[edit]

Hi. I have weighed in there. I must apologize for not answering to your previous query until now: I was trapped in a series of endless debates on two pages I created, and they took all my time on wiki. It looks like the articles have been reviewed by now, and I'll give them an extra look when some of my Romanian detractors will leave me be. For now, it's gotten quite heated on a certain talk page for a Romanian article, where I have been accused of being "pro-communist" (interestingly, an article I had just created was under attack at the very same time for having an "anti-communist bias"); one user is basically asking another how to "get rid of me". This had the gift of reducing time I allocate to other issues, and of making it more likely that I take longer breaks from editing. Dahn 09:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your kind words. Well, the issue is getting quite complicated, but perhaps you can weigh in on the absurd situation I have summarized on Talk:Vladimir Tismăneanu#Facts vs. fiction: the tags and the scandalous reasons behind them (I encourage you to read the article and perhaps look over comments brought up against it). I feel that tags are being used against an NPOV text to introduce POV, based on the fact that the issue is relatively unfamiliar to the average editor, and that allegations against Tismăneanu have mostly been made in Romanian (I have translated some of the most relevant parts of the debate in that section). In case you want to look into it, I thank you in advance. Dahn 11:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

edit this page, can you understand the difference, before making any move?! i hope for you - - - 84.227.175.8 12:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Castel-whatsit[edit]

It's quite OK, now...... I fixed it! and I hope you are all satisfied with what grandma has done..... Ciao! --Amandajm 13:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Attilios!

People are going to get very cross! Even me!

  • it looks messy!
  • it is a wonderful picture that warrants a big space!

You will have to bend a little- either the pic goes back down the page, or the commune box goes completely!

Nonna --Amandajm 14:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed it! I made a nice little picture for the little space, so you can see the detail, and put the big pic further down. We cannot have a large horizontal picture getting in the way of the text! The layout offended my artistic sensibility! I hope you will be happy now! :) Guess what.... I have a beautiful new granddaughter, so pretty! I cannot wait to see her!... but unfortunately it will be another fortnight. --Amandajm 14:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Need your input[edit]

Attilios, I need your input on the question of whether the spelling of Bohemond I of Antioch should be "Bohemund" or "Bohemond". Can you please chime in on the talk page?? Also, please look at what is now Logudoro/Torres? I had moved it to Giudicato of Logudoro, but an apparently-avengeful user has reverted all my moves in the past month. I would value your input as an expert in the field. Thanks, MapMaster 03:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Castelseprio![edit]

Ok! I hope you noticed what I did with the pics! I moved the big one over to the side and made a nice little one just for you! We are now having a little content and clarity dispute.... Oh well! Who do we know in that region who can check the layout? Or do I have to go to Italy an photograph it myself!

--Amandajm 23:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Ostia[edit]

You are right. In fact I am looking for all occurrences of Ostia and editing articles to ensure that all references to Ostia Antica takes directly to Ostia Antica (archaeological site) and to the modern town to Ostia (town).--Dejudicibus 09:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot find Ostia Antica (modern). Do you mean Ostia Antica (district)?--Dejudicibus 09:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cosa intendi con non ho pubblicato nulla?--Dejudicibus 09:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks[edit]

I enjoy this. I recall a paleobiologist who was befuddled by the focus on massive dinosaurs; and indicated he was interested in the whole past, from flora to lesser fauna, studying the entire spectrum. The 1911 Brittanica had as its Renaissance megafauna, Raphael and Michelangelo; it is fun to illuminate what is now lesser known. And to note how later decades and centuries of Italian art were even more diverse and equally probing. Please continue to correct my grammar. CARAVAGGISTI 18:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Ciao, Attilios. At some point in the last week, I randomly decided to overhaul this entire article that you started. I just wanted to let you know that I'm shooting for Featured Article status and that I've got enough references to do it. Be sure to check back in a week or so or even in a few days when I'll have a few more pictures and much more information regarding the life of this, the 31st Doge. JHMM13 (T | C) 09:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hello i would love to see rome and ive never been there well jeeze uh anyway i would just love to go but the thing is i would never have enough money to do anything like that my situation is horrible i hate it its like not being able to ride a bike! well i hope whoever has gone they loved it! --75.118.67.97 (talk) 23:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)steph?[reply]

Indirect Vandalism In The Article On Stephanie Adams[edit]

User Sean D Martin has been vandalizing the article on Stephanie Adams, due to a personal problem he has against her, as clearly seen when you google him along with her name. I and a few others have corrected what he vandalized, but ask that he be banned from editing the article on Stephanie Adams.
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In response to the above unsigned comment: User Sean D Martin has not been vandalizing anything. All of the edits made have been specific, minor, resulted in more accurate information and have been accompanied with a clear explanation of why the change was made. None of the edits has insulted Ms Adams or impugned her reputation in any way.

In response anonymous posters have reverted the article back to something less accurate and more self serving. These posts have been accompanied by personal attacks against me. I strongly suspect (and a little research into the IP addresses used supports) that this is Ms Adams using her usual technique of multiple aliases and anonymous posts to attack anyone who says anything not wildly complementary of her.

If anyone actually reads the edits I've made they will see that they are as I've described them. Specific, accurate and neutral. ONly someone with the viewpoint often ascribed to Ms Adams would see these as vandalism. Sean Martin 21:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Arezzo[edit]

Checked out San Francesco and did a little editting, as usual. Very good! I keep putting too many a s's in Assissi. I'm going to write about Piero's influence on Leonardo in the perspective bit of that nnew page.

--Amandajm 05:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blinking stupid kkeyboard put in tooo mmany apostrophes and turned it all to italics... --Amandajm 05:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Attilios. No worries, you see, this is what the def.catsort is for. By inserting {{DEFAULTSORT:Goscinny, René}}, all categories receive subsequent category treatment, and life becomes easier. Not long since I discovered it either ;) Cheers, MURGH disc.


Poor Piero![edit]

Dear Attilios, thank you for your faith in me! I need a little time to think. Life goes on... mundane things like buying new school shoes and getting black and red paint of white shirts takes precedence over Donatello, Piero della Francesca and Verrocchio! Meanwhile Giusto de' Menabuoi has escaped notice altogether! And the article on Early Renaissance art needs me desparately!

Nonna, --Amandajm 14:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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It's your baby, Attilios!

Johnbod is also taking an interest in the Jesse Tree page which was set out by a man who has access to a lot of info, but has no understanding of wiki style at all, and is just finding his way around. I no sooner organised the page (demolishing all this man's personal views and research in the process), got back a polite Thank you for your Help! And Guess who appears on that site?...... Oh, dear! it's not that he isn't knowledgeable. The problem is that he is so uncompromising! I hope we don't have another fight over that page! Because the Malcolmlow, who has done all the work and has the information at hand is perfectly accomodating.

Meamwhile, There is this regular battle over Leonardo! One nice long letter demoshing the article for the fact that six commas were missing and two sentences were in a different tense to the previous ones. Another one who decided that one could not say that "Leonardo was generally considered to be one of the greatest artists to ever have lived." This, of course, is a fact. Not that he was the greatest, but that it is the way in which he was/is pperceived. So then I had to find ten quotations to support the sentence.....

Every time I turn my back someone demolishes the article.... and they are nearly always people who mean well! Someone has just reverted an edit that I made, specifically to keep people happy! Oh well! "Back to the mighty conflict" (in the words of an old English Hymn.)

--Amandajm 04:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy! Happy! Happy![edit]

Johbod is doing wonderful stuff at the Jesse Tree page and has found two beeyootiful pictures. Malcolm will bbe delighted.. So llet's alll bbee happy! --Amandajm 04:37, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Battleship[edit]

My pleasure! If you had a spare moment, could you give it a read and compare it with the Good Article criteria? That's where I'm trying to take it. The Land 10:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Medal template[edit]

Hi. It seems that I have overseen the template:MedalTableTop, which is appropiate enough for my medal tables. Sorry for changing the template:MedalTop! However, the latter should be a more general one than a specific one like for Olympics. Anyway, just keep it! I myself better change my templates from MedalTop to MedalTableTop, which is easier. Cheers! CeeGee 14:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sforza[edit]

Upgraded to B class. Mocko13 19:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assume Good Faith[edit]

With regards to what could be seen as a personal attack on my talk page.[2] We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.Yankees76 22:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Castelseprio mediation[edit]

I have opened your mediation request for Castelseprio. I am just begining to look over the edit histories to get a sense of the conflict, but I would appreciate any additional information you can give me. --Selket Talk 00:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I too have volunteered to view your mediation request. I know nothing of the subject of the article, or about the dispute itself, I will be completely impartial. Before I begin I would prefer that all parties involved approve of me, personally, as a mediator (I suggest a quick review of my contribs and logs). Selket has said that some issues may have been solved, but the both of us want to be sure that the outcome (at least partly) pleases all. Also, please let me know if this dispute has been resolved. (Please answer me here, I will be watching this page) - HammerHeadHuman (talk)(work) 00:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

German Location Infobox[edit]

Numbers in the format of x,xxx break all the calculations (ie density). Agathoclea 09:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Twinned cities[edit]

Please note that you are abusing your popups priviledges, and are likely to be banned from using it. Please note that Scotland is a country, it is not a state. --Mais oui! 11:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly have not read the instructions at the top of WP:3RR. If you would like some background to this whole dabacle, I advise that you read Talk:Vancouver. And I would like to point out that I was indeed restoring previous versions, because User:Enzedbrit and User:Lofty and various IP sockpuppets have been systematically targetting these articles for many, many months. You are just exacerbating the mess. --Mais oui! 11:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone was in a "frenzy" this morning, it was you. That was a totally unacceptable use of your popups privileges. You clearly did not have the slightest idea of the background to this massive, Wikipedia-wide edit war that has been waged on some articles, over the twin city sections for over a year now. It has to be knocked hard on the head, not exacerbated by 3rd-parties. --Mais oui! 15:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am not answerable to you, so just get off your high horse. Your behaviour is in itself far from ideal - eg. you failed to use a single edit summary this morning, and then had the bare-faced cheek to criticise the comprehensiveness of mine. Please look at the facts, not the wild accusations of cowards and banned users who hide behind disposable IP sockpuppet accounts. --Mais oui! 15:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
User:Mais oui! has deleted my message yet again! He is not comfortable with the truth. 81.154.95.26 15:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mallimak, why do you not just log in and post under your account? What are you trying to hide? It won't work. --Mais oui! 15:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contribution[edit]

Hi. I am writing to you because you seem to be online at the moment and have heaps of discussion on your talk page. Not sure if you're an admin or not but either way you probably know your way around here. I'm trying to access the list of contributions for user JSPugh. Using my normal process for doing this, i.e. copying their username, going to 'my contributions' and then pasting their username at the end instead of mine, i get no results. This can't be the case, because i know for a fact he has edited the article XanGo recently. Any advice? Cheers, THE KING 15:52, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Carrara[edit]

I found three articles in the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani for Giacomos: the edler, the younger, and a third one. There was one Uberto (the Younger). There was also a reference to Uberto the Elder, but no article. I don't know what Giacomo you want. I will make the two red links you left on my talk page dab pages and begin creating a page for Ubertinello. It may start out pretty stubby, as I am busy at the moment. Srnec 17:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military History elections[edit]

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Armenia[edit]

No, non mi arrabbio, ma avrei comunque un appunto... quando scrivi a qualcuno, ricordati di firmare... poi ho pensato a guardare nella history dell'articolo, ma se firmavi ti trovavo prima. In quanto al conflitto di interessi, posso anche capire, ma resta il fatto che Armenia pubblica quegli autori, tra cui me. Che la cosa l'abbia scritta io o un'altro penso abbia un'importanza relativa dato che un fatto e non una promozione (non ci sono frasi altisonanti o altri elementi discutibili... solo una mera lista). Mi auguro solo che questo precedente non impedisca che un giorno io venga citato comunque in quella lista perché un'altro wikipediano NON collegato a me decida di aggiungermi... D'altra parte uno qui scrive di cose che conosce, per cui i miei articoli riguardano Roma, Ostia, la zona dove abito, i personaggi fabosi che ho conosciuto o altri elementi di cui ho esperienza diretta a causa del mio lavoro (editori, giornalisti, ecc...) Il mio obiettivo è portare nella Wikipedia inglese una migliore conoscenza dell'Italia e di sfatare alcuni miti (come gli spaghetti con le meet ball, ad esempio). --Dejudicibus 20:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Palladio[edit]

I moved the Palladio picture back to the right after readding the header. Makes more sense with the table of contents there. /Timneu22 21:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Monica[edit]

You can see in Talk:Monica Seles that she's a Hungarian-American. She was born in Yugoslavia and played for Yug. until 1994, but her nationality is Hungarian. This region in Serbian is very ethnically diverse. I see that many reverts to Serbian-American, and many change her name in Serbian. I really don't know to to make some administrator to close this article, can you help? --Göran Smith 21:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy is because there is a small mention of Serbia in the article, i know, it's silly. Ok, you can add any sort of protection :) --Göran Smith 22:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Be Civil[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

I'm not certain who you think I am, but this would be the first warning I have received and I have certainly never edited the John Byrne page prior to today. Either way, the proper way to warn someone about their behavior is not to call them a jerk. Thank you. 71.232.25.117 00:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, I would call that my FIRST warning, as I just said above. Not the FOURTH warning, as you seem to indicate in the edit notes. Perhaps that image of John Byrne's head could also be used for you? It would appear that the Leaping To Conclusions cluster of your cerebrum is enlarged and inflamed! :( 71.232.25.117 11:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Attilios, Greetings! I am the "jerk" who did most of the work on the Dominic Savio article. :-) I admit you are several times more experienced than I on Wikipedia, and I bow to your experience here. I had been labouring under the delusion that I had been neutral while writing the article. From your comments, I gather I have failed. I would be grateful if you gave me a few suggestions on improving the article. Thank you.

Yours faithfully,

Savio mit electronics 12:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, I'd love it if you could please indicate to me instances of the POV and the Pietism, so that I can change them. I did a major rewrite of the article, since it had previously been tagged with "expert" and "accuracy dispute" tags. You can see the previous version of the article here. Though I was named after him, (long story, don't think you'd be interested), I was fairly sure I had been neutral on the article. (It took me three entire days to do it, making sure that I was neutral.) I don't see how I can avoid "Catholic language" on the article, since Dominic Savio's only claim to notability stems from the fact that he was a "Good Catholic", and that he was "pious". Now, should I downplay that in the article? If he had a habit of praying before the Eucharist daily, for instance, am I to say that he didn't? Or am I to leave it out? Or am I to avoid words like "Eucharist", "Prayer", "Mass", "Priest", "Sodality" etc, since non-Catholics might also be reading the article? If sports terminology were used in an article on a sportsperson, or political terminology in an article on a politician, wouldn't that also be, by your definition, a form of "POVism" and "Pietism"? After all, people other than sportspersons or politicians are also expected to read those articles. I thought the meaning of NOPV was that all points of view are to be represented with due weightage, fairly, proportionately and without bias. Regarding proportion, in Dominic Savio's case, the only Point of View he is worth viewing from is the Catholic Point of View. From any other viewpoint, he is a nobody. From any other point of view, there is nothing to write about him. I have been fair to the subject. There is nothing negative about the subject in the article because there are no stories in circulation that cast him in a bad light. There are no alleged scandals revolving around his life, for instance. None of his friends have been recorded to make a statement saying "Dominic was not all that pious." or anything of that sort. I am sure I have been unbiased on the article. For instance, you will notice that I have never once made statements about Dominic Savio on my own, (e.g: "Dominic Savio was a famous/great/popular/pious saint.", or "He is one of the greatest Catholic Saints of the nineteenth century" ) and I have only reported what others (St. John Bosco, various Popes, Dominic's friends) had to say about him.
Perhaps I should stay away from the article, and let someone else do the cleanup, since the subject is too close to my heart......
Yours respectfully,
Savio mit electronics 12:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Children of Men edits[edit]

I thought I would point out that you removed the Sir from Michael Caine. He is in fact a knight of the realm. It is his title, more so than someone would be called Doctor, or Reverend.Arcayne 01:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments, but you put them on my user page, instead of my Talk Page. I removed them, but I understand your point.Arcayne 10:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

5-1 Volleyball Formation[edit]

Hi Attilios, I'm wondering why you undid the edit on 5-1 formation in Volleyball ([3])? It looked valid, and seems to me, informative. I put it back for now, but maybe you had a good reason for removing it. Thanks, Icemuon 13:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. But I didn't write it, only put it back :-) Best regards, Icemuon 14:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian swimmers[edit]

Ciao Attilios, thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. I'm going to add some other swimmers, so it's better to be corrected in this early stage.. let me know if you find something wrong in my work. Marra 17:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are definitely right about those see alsos -actually it's just cut&paste from what links here, it was to avoid someone tag articles for speedy deletion as already happened for a too short and simple stub.
About <br>, not the same behavior of leaving a blank line, IMHO.
By the way let me ask one stuff, do you think the photo you used in Lamberti's article is tagged in the right way? I mean about copyright issues and so on? there are loads of pics on raisport website but I'm not sure about the right way to do this.. Marra 22:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AMAZING wikification :) Marra 22:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tranqui non ti prendo per rompipalle, non ti preoccupare! in effetti ci ho pensato pure io se non fosse troppo.. riconosco siano manifestazioni di secondo piano rispetto a mondiali e europei ma alla fine non sono proprio la coppa del nonno.. boh..
Un policy potrebbe essere di tenere conto di queste manifestazioni nel medagliere se non lo appesantiscono troppo e -di conseguenza- se sono rappresentative del livello raggiunto dall'atleta. Ad esempio mettere tutte le 50+ medaglie di rosolino ti do ragione che non ci sta molto!
Tu che faresti? semplicemente non terresti conto sotto gli europei? ciao e grazie Marra 10:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ho visto solo ora che hai sistemato un sacco di nuotatori.. ottimo lavoro! ora per qualche giorno mi sa che devo wiki-disintossicarmi un'attimo.
Faro' tesoro del tuo consiglio e cercherò di abbandonare il mio amato <br>.. Dai per il medagliere ci sto a fare cosi, però allora aggiungerei nel corpo dell'articolo una subsection tipo Other achievements e farei una tabellina. che dici?
In caso affermativo, se ci metti le mani per favore non cancellare le medaglie ma commentale solo..
Io sono un buon agonista mancato -mancato di molto- avendo iniziato agonismo molto tardi.. non so i miei punti, mi informerò :) ciaociao! Marra 10:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Double redirects[edit]

Just wanted to say thanks for cleaning up some of those sloppy double redirects that I left behind yesterday. I went back to clean them up and saw you'd taken care of them. Much appreciated! Planetneutral 03:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rosetta barnstar[edit]

The Rosetta Barnstar
For translation efforts, and for the spreading of Italian culture Jollyroger 08:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to the History of Italian Railways, and some of other old railway-related topics ;-) --Jollyroger 17:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

rvv?[edit]

Hello. I'm not objecting to this edit, but I am confused. Can you please explain your edit summary as regards this edit? --After Midnight 0001 00:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your prompt response. I think I should have asked a bit more clearly.... The edit summary that you used on the edit was "rvv", which I believe stands for "reverting vandalism". Since I didn't see any vandalism, I was confused. It is also possible that you were using "rvv" in a different context or as a different abbreviation. Can you please clarify? By the way, the standard abbreviations for edit summaries can be found here. Best regards and happy editing. --After Midnight 0001 00:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tiepolo and others[edit]

I don't especially object to referring to Tiepolo initially as Italian rather than Venetian, but you have now left no reference to Venice in the lead para, which is wrong for such a distinctively Venetian artist.

By the way when you set up a page move request you are supposed to put a tag on the talk page & use their templates for a survey there. You have not done this for Palazzo del Te. The instructions are on the RfM page. Please do this. Johnbod 13:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Agra_Fort.PNG listed for deletion[edit]

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Agra_Fort.PNG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Iamunknown 04:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Altichiero[edit]

Ciao Attilios! I have a quick question for you. Back in December, you moved Altichiero to Altichiero da Zevio. The reason you cited was "more used spelling." I'm wondering what evidence you used to draw that conclusion. When I'm looking at predominant usage, my first point of reference is the Getty Index, which I think is very reliable and authoritative. They list the preferred name as Altichiero and list Altichiero da Zevio as an alternative. I'm interested in what evidence had you going in the opposite direction.

Toward getting a better understanding of what the best strategy is for determining most common name, I started a discussion thread on the topic. Your thoughts are welcome. Cheers. Planetneutral 01:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian-Germans[edit]

Such categories also stress ethnicity, not only a nationality. By the way, is there any field concerning nationality/ethnicity in Italian Census? I doesn't know situation in that region perfectly but I had one friend there, and he told me German-speaking locals don't consider themselves as Italians. Such people should be certainly added to some category which would group them together. - Darwinek 16:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao! :) It is also a possible way to go, both the new category and the existing one. I still would like to know how majority of these people consider themselves. Maybe inclusion to Austrian Italians category would be much better? - Darwinek 20:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I will create that category. You can then help me with populating it. - Darwinek 21:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Anyone for Te?[edit]

Attilios, I'm not Italian. I must be guided in this matter by those who know better. If you think that this is the right way to go, then I support it.

--Amandajm 23:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ranuccio[edit]

I'm sorry, I've got nothing that I know of with those dates in it on hand. By the way, about the Carraresi, I've been too busy to get to those articles, but I will get to them soon, if not this week, then certainly the next. Also, I think there is some confusion in the sources I've used between Galvano and Jordan Lancia and I want to write an article on the former. If you have any information to untangle the two, I'd be happy to see it. Thanks and good work. Srnec 19:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: John Buscema[edit]

Just a heads up here, there's an RfC running on the articles talk page at the moment. Part of what it covers is the material you edited.

Feel free to add comments to the RfC discussion, but leave the article as it was when the RfC was called, please. Once a consensus is reached, the necessary culling, condensing, copy editing, and clean up can be done.

Thanks... — J Greb 10:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Complimenti per tutti i tuoi contributi, in particolare Cervia, hai tradotto bene ciò che ho scritto su it.wiki! =) --User:Helios89/Firma 20:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sai che proprio ieri ci pensavo? Che forse sarebbe meglio concentrarci tutti di qua? Tanto come hai giustamente fatto notare tu, ormai l'inglese lo sanno più o meno tutti (io sono solo un 17enne eh ;) ) quindi forse è meglio concentrarsi a fare una cosa fatta bene che tante fatte male. Anche perché en.wiki è enormemente più grande e ha già risolto molti problemi che si stanno vivendo sulla wikipedia italiana, nella quale secondo me vige un po' il regime del legittimo sospetto. Speriamo che le cose si risolvano e purtroppo io sono più bravo a tradurre dall'inglese all'italiano ma non escludo che mi trasferisca di qua se per caso mi stufo della gente di là. Ah e sono convinto che fondere mitologia che curo con questa di qua ne guadagnerebbero tutti.

Per mia esperienza personale, io scrivo di là, ma se ho bisogno di info non c'è alternativa spesso a venire di qua in english :) --User:Helios89/Firma 13:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your comment 'Skelarke stuff was Wiki-horrendous' - kindly refrain from personal attacks and negative criticism.

--Skyelarke 23:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary[edit]

Re: this edit to Accademia dei Lincei: I cannot imagine something a lot further out of line than describing other editors' apparently good-faith contributions as "shit". I don't necessarily disagree with your removal of a timeline and commenting out of Catholic Encyclopedia material, but calling it "shit" is another matter. - Jmabel | Talk 00:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Second country on the internet"[edit]

Way back in November, you added this to November 17:

I've seen this appear on the article a couple of times and have removed it. I'm fairly sure that the source we're getting it from is wrong - USENET had its first international connection in 1979, and the term was in general use in 1981 [4] - but I don't suppose you remember what the source was? I'm really quite curious as to where this is coming from, to see if I can figure out what it's a garbled reference to... Shimgray | talk | 01:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PSI symbol[edit]

Can you help me to find in Iternet and upload in Wikipedia the sybol used by the PSI in its last years? The only images I found so far are those you can see here and in here, but I hope to find better images. --Checco 14:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image stuff[edit]

In wich article(s)? Câmara 22:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Social Republic[edit]

Thank you! Mkpumphrey 15:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I recently suggested that that article be moved to just plain Sorrento with a dab page created at Sorrento (disambiguation). Knowing your position on the Syracuse question which was raised not so long ago, I wondered if you agreed with me on this one? Srnec 21:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[5] Amazing edits i keep up the good work! Giano 21:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Castles[edit]

Thank You for trying to get people to see the overly British-influenced Castles article....that's not the only article where it is default..also if you look up Royal Family you'll find a picture of the British Royal Family -as if they're the only ones around! I love the British, but thanks for standing up to these people who think they're the only thing out there!. C.Kent87 22:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually I am not British! Secondly I imported several non British castles to that page. Thirdly I chose the best images to demonstrate what I was going to say in the text to explain the evolution of castles both politically and architecturally, i.e. the fact that northern French and English castles have great similarities for political reasons, as do castles in Italy have affinity with others in various parts of Europe, while the Moorish, Spanish and Sicilian castles have a similar relationship. Then we come to the influence they had on revival castle design in South America, and why that differed from the romantic Gothic employed at the same time in Northern Europe. Then we could have crossed to Australia and seen how they adopted the Scottish baronial to suit their climate [6], and again in New Zealand [7], not to mention the castles of the Crimea. Sadly one was never allowed to get that far because some people insisted on pretty pictures designed to include their favourite holiday snap, or suit their partisan tastes. This is an encyclopedia not a nationalistic ego trip. Giano 09:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't mean to imply that you were British...I only meant people use them as an example for many things, but it's a bit understandable since we speak the English language. C.Kent87 03:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm begining to be concerned about some of your edits [8]. It is a long page, it needs to have the images formatted and correctly referred to as the image have been chosen to illustrate specific points, as the page is long and impossible tp place all images close to the relevant text, I used the same format at Sicilian Baroque where it is equally successful. Giano 14:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paolo Uccello[edit]

I've always appreciated your contributions to articles I (mainly) wrote. This time however I have a question. You've changed Florentine to Italian, while I've tried to avoid this word in my historical biographies of painters and sculptors. In my understanding, Italy as a nation came only into being in the 19th century. Therefore, Florentine should be preferred. JoJan 10:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ditto Bronzino, Rosso Fiorentino and many others. Apart from the historical point, as I'm sure you know it is standard art historical practice to use Venetian, Florentine, Sienese etc to describe those cities with major schools or distinct traditions of painting. These is important information, which you do not replace - often when you do this it is not obvious from the rest of the lead. In other words, you should at least change to "Italian painter from Florence" or "of the Florentine school". I take it you don't deny the existence of these different traditions. I am raising this issue at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#.22Italian.22_or_.22Florentine.22_etc_artist_.3F to try and establish a policy on the matter. Please hold on making further changes in the same wqay in the meantime. Thank you. Johnbod 12:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(answer to your reply on my talk page) I can see your point but still I don't agree. Would you call the de Medici Florentine or Italian rulers, Frederick the Great a Prussian or a German king, Jan van Eyck a Flemish or a Belgian painter ? There is not a single bit of racism involved in these designations, but we have to take in account historical realities and not present-day realities. JoJan 13:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bartolomeo Carducci[edit]

Ciao Attilios. Much like my recent question about Altichiero, I'm wondering about your move of Bartolommeo Carducci to Bartolomeo Carducci and what source you used to establish this as the "correct spelling." My preferred source is the Getty Union List of Artist Names which lists Bartolomé Carducho as the preferred name with both the single and double-m Bartolomeo versions as variations.

Given that this is the second time that I've asked about this kind of naming convention-based move, I beseech you to cite at least one reference when giving a reason for the move. I think it's worth trying to establish some reliable standard sources and the Getty List has a pretty strong foundation for its decisions on preferred name. Cheers. Planetneutral talk 19:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've proposed merging both Maritime republics and Repubbliche Marinare into Category:Maritime Republics Αργυριου (talk) 19:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Have a look at this diff. It is possible that the sensible and sensitive people on the Saints Project (and they do exist) will quash this ghastly idea. If they do, then good. But if not then it might be worth spending some time revisiting some of those spectacularly biased articles on Italian saints and make it quite clear why (for instance) many reasonable people find Carlo Borromeo quite simply repulsive. Ciao for now! —Ian Spackman 15:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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About Carlo Fruttero article[edit]

Hi Attilios. I am not sure I understand some of your edits to Carlo Fruttero article. I thought that a literal translation of the Italian titles could be useful, at least to give a pale idea of the feel of F&L's books. Any particular reason why you removed them?

Buon lavoro! --Goochelaar 21:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Portraits & painting names[edit]

Attilios, If you are creating any more picture articles, please note that "Portrait of a man of London" etc is just not grammatical in English - it means the sitter came from London, & is not an idiomatic way of saying that. The titles should be: Portrait of a Young Man (Botticelli, London) etc. Johnbod 02:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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RE:Help for Giuseppe Mazzini[edit]

I've fixed any errors I found in the article. The article was unfortunately short before your recent expansion, thank you. I'm honored to be given the job of cleaning it up. In an unrelated note, congratulations on Milan making the semifinals, I've personally been having a bad calcio week, for obvious reasons.-KingPenguin 23:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios! I took a quick look at Giotto. Good on you! Yes, I will happily do some editting to improve the English expression. i am very interested in Giotto.

Did you know that there is the portrait of a dwarf who appears in the Bardi Chappel frescoes that is by tradition Giotto himself? There has also been a long tradition that he was buried near a certain column in il Duomo, Florence. A few years back, perhaps 2004, they took up the paving and found, guess what? a coffin containing a thick-set little man of 1.2 metres tall. A forensic sculptor examined the skull and created a portrait very like the one in the Bardi Chapel.

Now, what about Giusto da Menabuoi?

--Amandajm 08:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Levi image[edit]

Hi Attilios, regarding Image:PrimoLevi.gif, Levi died in 1987, so it's unlikely that this image is in the public domain. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Spelling[edit]

Sorry meant no offense. I try to correct whenever possible. I went back a few weeks and searched out a number of Franciscos, but I am sure I missed some. I don't think the mistakes are from Rudolf Wittkower, but I was also using this Ralph Wornum book to start up a catalogue of Italian painter stubs, and I am afraid that source has far more mis-spellings. I will usually google the name first to see the best most common use name. If I had a choice, I would use as close to a contemporary source for establishing the stub, but I do not have an internet handy and easy to use version of Bellori or Lanzi, for example. What I can find scanned of those has been poor. I will try to keep my Francesco Solimenas straight. Thanks again. CARAVAGGISTI 23:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


and more Italian spelling and pronunciation.[edit]

Oh dear! I'm not very good at English spelling, let alone Italian! I'm quite hopeless at things like accents. I'm not how they affect pronunciation. My Italian accent is Australian-Calabrian! It's the result of a long friendship with a Calabrian Green Grocer. In Florence, when I order in my most careful Italian, the waiters look down their long noses at me. As for Verrocchio, yes well.... I'm still working on Lenny.

I must say that Giotto is much easier for me than Verrocchio. I can write about Giotto off the top of my head. Verrocchio will require mmore research and I don't have even one book on him. --Amandajm 01:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Translation needed![edit]

Hi Attilios. Can you help me with a complex translation? I need to move the article it:Gordon Rugg to en.wiki, rewriting the actual one. The article was written with info given from mr. Rugg, so we need to reverse-translate it to english to let him check the work done. Thanks --Jollyroger 11:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Attilios, a year or so ago you expanded the article on the Sistine Chapel by incorporating material about the frescoes. At least, I think it was you. Can you please let me know where it came from so I can cite the source.

It's all very long and detailed. I want to write a more comprehensive but less detailed account of the frescoes, if you don't mind. I will incorporate a lot of the present material. I've just written about the architecture and purpose of the building.

--Amandajm 12:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, darling! I'll just get the big guys, Len and Micky, out of the way first, and then I'll get on with the others. --Amandajm 13:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of references[edit]

Could you explain why you removed references from Giacomo Gaetani Stefaneschi? Charles Matthews 21:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I have asked you before - will you please stop altering references to external links, and marking as a minor edit. I wrote that page useing those sites as references. External links are for further information on a subject not used in the page. Thank you Giano 09:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, the additions at Campobasso from [9] onwards were awful. I think, the article as it is now is respectable and doesn't need all that redundant material. Let me know and good work. --Attilios 21:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for informing me about your Campobasso page's revert. When I peruse the history of this page (I didn't do it before), I understand your reaction, although I don't totally agree.

The blunt replacement of the previous version by a new one, made by 87.16.181.175, is not satisfactory, because it's neither efficient nor fair to destroy months of good work. On the other hand, for the same reason, erasing his edit doesn't satisfy me, especially because his text is well detailed and interesting.

Before working on it, I checked an hypothetical copyright violation, and I discovered that this new edit was a good translation of the Campobasso page of the Italian Wiki, which is, in my humble opinion, a good reference.

I think it would have been better to merge these texts than erase one of them. But, as the new one is already dense and compact, the fusion would be difficult. That's why I suggest to add some parts of the new text to the current edit, whose size is not so big, and to create sub-pages, which would include all the remaining parts, allowing the interested reader to have access to further information.

What is your feeling about this suggestion ? Wikily yours.
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Chiese in Toscana[edit]

Ciao Attilios! Grazie per il tuo lavoro sull'Italia che fai nella wiki inglese. Ho visto che spesso hai tradotto pagine su chiese di Firenze. Ti volevo solo dire che il sito che abbiamo spesso usato come fonte (i Luoghi della Fede, Regione Toscana) ci ha autorizzati a prendere i testi, quindi si possono semplicemente copiare, incollare e wikificare, per qualsiasi chiesa in toscana. Il bello è che esiste anche la traduzione completa in inglese, per cui ho pensato che potrebbe essere utile per te e per la wiki inglese. Ciao, fammki sap :) PS: Il ticket OTRS dell'autorizzazione è OTRS #2006051010009863 Sailko 11:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian cinema[edit]

HI you may be pleased to know I have set up an organization page for Itlaian cinema but note this is just a page for organizing Italian cinema not a wikiproject - it is a single page for a dto do list of Italian cinema. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Cinema of Italy and add your name as you are working in this area. If you know of any missing major films, articles that require particular expansion missing nmajor actors etc place them on the page. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 13:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wondering why you haven't you responded? Your articles are not using the correct categories and tagging as well. Do you want to help out Italian cinema amico? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 19:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have see that you have joined great. Good work on tht director by the way. I have added some details to the 1975 film . I am begining to learn Italian!! Ciao amico! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 19:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had added a poster and screenshot and {cinemaofItaly} plate and category:italian-language films. I just stubbed another 1975 film Di che segno sei?!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

english is very good - I only had to correct several words ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I started Amici miei Atto II already!!!. PLease expand. Have you seen the List of Italian films? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. Can I ask you a favour. On actor and direcotr etc articles can you put this in the Talk pages: bio|filmbio-work-group=yes|class=stub with a {{ }} around. THis way it is easier to track and control. See the Renzo article talk page.


♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added an image and info box for Paolo Stoppa. I have also createds Category:Commedia all'italiana for Italian film in this comedy genre ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 09:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao![edit]

Sure I will. I’ve answered at User talk:Ian Spackman#Ciao.21, as I find if easist to read conversations when they are kept in one place. Cheers. —Ian Spackman 22:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Giotto[edit]

Hi, Attilios! Just doing a little fix on Giotto! But I'm too tired...it's 2.00am on this side of the planet! Ciao! --Amandajm 15:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Buon Giorno![edit]

I think that Giotto needs to be listed as both a Renaissance and a Medieval painter. Regardless of his actual date, he is seen as heralding the Renaissance and appears in books on Renaissance art. His style cannot properly be described as International Gothic and it certainly isn't Byzantine as Cimabue was. I think that the term the best applies is Proto Renaissance.

Annyway, back to writing.

--Amandajm 02:51, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lothair III[edit]

Then it should link to Lateran Palace. Lateran is basically a glorified disambiguation page. But why would you think that the coronation would be in the palace? Coronations usually take place in churches, and it's specifically said that it was as an alternative to St. Peter's. RandomCritic 10:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Watershed: a little note[edit]

Hi! Glad to spot your new Reno article. Something to remember is that It’s best to avoid using the word ‘watershed’ on Wikipedia because it has quite different meanings in British and US English. In the States it means ‘bacino idrografico’, but over here it means ‘linea spartiacque’. So, if you remember (I often don’t), use drainage basin for the first meaning and water divide (or drainage divide) for the second. A dopo —Ian Spackman 11:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

do not be so rude[edit]

do not be so rude. i did nothing to milan, i just wrote milan beautiful, there is nothing wrong with that. plus you look funny. --Toccsevobal 00:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Towers of Bologna[edit]

PLease translate the Towers of Bologna article I started thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 12:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We seem to share the same passions amazing!!!! I just happened to create ‎The Bridge at Narni and I see you start a Rembrandt piating. I wish you'd repsond to me rather than going cold. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 21:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

‘little but good’[edit]

Hi Attilio! I loved your edit summary on Lecco [10]. I plan to steal it… Cheers! —Ian Spackman 18:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Serralunga[edit]

OK. My dictionary translates serra as either ‘serra’ (a word I have never ever come across in English) or ‘sierra’. Serralunga di Crea I have visited (not as a pilgrim climbing it on my knees in the traditional fashion!) on several occasions. It’s obviously not as dramatic a kind of thing as the Sierra del Madre of Ben Traven’s rather interesting book or John Huston’s splendid film of the book. (Did you see it? One of Bogart’s best, together with a brilliant performance from Huston’s dad, Walter: a movie which reminds you that there was a time when Hollywood was good.) Nor is it as dramatic as the High Sierra of an earlier Bogart film. But it’s the same kind of thing, isn’t it? Or not. How would you translate Serralunga into English? —Ian Spackman 18:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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In the beginning it's important summarize the main caracteristics of the topic. IMHO a comic book that is already published by 25 years is relevant. --Marcok 13:01, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ma sei italiano! Sei anche tu un fan del BVZM? Visto che il fantastico è tra i tuoi interessi, ricordati che su it.wiki c'è il Portale:Fantascienza. --Marcok 15:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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San Remo conference[edit]

Please don't change these references. The conference was known at the time and has always been known since as the "San Remo conference". It has been discussed on the talk page. --Ian Pitchford 13:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be able to take part in the discussion at Talk:San Remo conference before making any more of these changes? Thanks. --Ian Pitchford 14:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Would you agree to the move from "Sanremo conference" to "San Remo conference" if there is a new section explaining that the Italian town is not actually called "San Remo" and why it should be referred to as "Sanremo"? I don't want to offend Italian sensibilities, but on the other hand the article should have the standard English-language title - even if English speakers are a bit thick about Italian place names!--Ian Pitchford 14:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's very gracious of you. Thank you. I'd be glad to give such an undertaking! --Ian Pitchford 14:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of[edit]

I've been looking at Category:Cathedrals in Italy. Please note that if, as is normal, the name in Italian is "Duomo di X", in English it is "X Cathedral", not "Cathedral of X". Obviously there are some exceptions, especially where the dedication name is the best known & normally used alone, like St Peter's, Rome, St Mark's Venice etc. But "Cathedral of X" is never right as a title for the article. Thanks, Johnbod 17:19, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I had checked these - can you remember which articles? There are plenty of single redirects of course. Johnbod 16:33, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colle di Romagnano[edit]

Found the name in the book that I used as a reference. It might be just a farmhouse.

Can you tell me what Colle means when it is part of a place name? There is a place not far from Florence called Colle Val d'Elsa and above it is Colle Alto where Arnolfo di Cambio was born in a tower house.

The thing that I found most remarkable about it was that the town square of the lower town is exactly like a de Chirico painting, the matching arcaded buildings on either side, the war memorial and the station making the fourth side of the piazza. It was rather sinister because one kept expecting dark shadowy figures to emerge in the bright sunlight. The patisserie was worth travelling all the way to Colle for. And by the way, there's no danger that you are going to get your cathedrals muddled with your basilicas, is there? --Amandajm 07:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've just done a search and my conclusion is that it should be Romignano, not Romagnano. There is a Fattoria di Romignano in the valley of Mugello. It is described as being a villa in a group of farms. It is probably not the same house, but may be on the site. I'm going to changge the spelling.

--Amandajm 07:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Cefaloooo[edit]

Ciao Attilios! This is wot I wanna know:-

  • "More probably, the construction had political and military reasons, due to its character of quasi-fortress." Why? If you ignore the facade, which is later, and the east end, which is a bit later, you've got a fairly regular Norman cathedral, well, its windows are a bit small (I think) but that was normal for the south of France.

--Amandajm 11:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're right. have a look at what I've done now. And thank you for cheering me up! I needed it! I have been "down in the dumps"!

--Amandajm 13:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios![edit]

I've just corrected my typos (I hope). I rearranged the pics a bit and put the most fortress-like picture at the top to go with the description of the building being like a fortress. I hope you like it! Ciao! --Amandajm 14:14, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Didi or Didí?[edit]

Hello. I noticed that you've changed the spelling of Didi to Didí. I've done some research on this previously, and I rarely saw the player spelled Didí even in Brazilian pages. For example, this page [11] and the Portuguese wikipedia page [12] both list the player simply as Didi. Can you provide a source on this if possible? On the other hand, you're correct in changing the spelling of Mazzola to Mazola. Thanks! Chanheigeorge 23:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I've reverted the changes. Chanheigeorge 23:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Enzo Ferrari "vandalism"[edit]

I see you reverted my edit and warned me regarding vandalism on the Enzo Ferrari page. However, the disambiguation as it is directs to a page which, itself, redirects. Indeed, the car is called the Enzo Ferrari, and the page itself is "Enzo Ferrari (car)," not "Ferrari Enzo (car)" as the biographical article on the man Enzo Ferrari says.

Pending your response, I will re-edit the page to assure consistency across Wikipedia. (The link in a disambiguation statement should match the title of the article it links to; it should not link to a redirect.) --Icydesign 01:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to add, as well, that the blanking of my talk page, if you would have taken the time to look at the difference, was simply to remove the welcome message. It served no purpose there, and removing it was not, in the least, an action intended to conceal.
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I received a single warning on an act which was not vandalism. The circumstance was not unusual. You simply did not take the time to investigate the situation to a sufficient level. Feel free to peruse my user contribs if you are still convinced that I, somehow, must be a vandal. --Icydesign 01:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Alessandra Acciai[edit]

PLease translate Italian actress Alessandra Acciai it was a two line stub before. You'll probably ignore me!!! but I hope you can help . Ciao ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 18:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Question re: Books of Magic image[edit]

I've never read the series myself, but the Italian cover gives Tim Hunter a scar on his forehead like Harry Potter. Is this scar actually in the books, or was it just added by the artist? Thanks. Serendipodous 10:57, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sassetti Chapel[edit]

Will doo! But I'm just tidying up another article. I can't do it tonight! Yawnn!! --Amandajm 15:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Western actor[edit]

Hey recognize Joseph Egger I started ? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 19:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Spaghetti Westerns or WikiProject Westerns[edit]

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Cortenuova[edit]

I Apologise, i wrote the last post before reading your last post. Sorry. Ofcourse, I Agree, with your proposal concerning the info from Fredriciana. But still keeping my info as well. How about this, you include your numbers and than i include mine (just like in kindergarten) and then we both have a look at it. --Daufer (talk) 14:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I kept my casualty numbers, but they are almost identical with yours anyway. Your source talks about 5,000 captured and as many left on the battlefield, and my sources Busk, Von Arnim, Hadank and Schaller write of 4,093 Captives, the official Numbers given by the Ann.Pla.Gib. and thousands killed. I also would like to include Pietro della vignas quote at the end?--Daufer (talk) 15:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edited[edit]

Spelling issue: "Shahr-e Ray" (with an "a") is generally the more common spelling - and "Rey" with an "e" the less common spelling -- see spelling at Iranian Chamber: http://www.iranchamber.com/cities/ray/shahre_ray.php http://www.university-directory.eu/Iran/Islamic-Azad-University--Shahr-e-Ray.html http://www.irantalent.com/home/Distribution-Supervisor-jobs-in-Tehran-Iran-3339.html

It appears you reversed the spellings on this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rey,_Iran

Not a major point - I didn't change it back; but wanted to call it to your attention. Thanks for your attention and cheers.

Edited[edit]

Hi you edited something I added... why? It was not bad. :S —Preceding unsigned comment added by XMDIOOI (talkcontribs) 19:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Er[edit]

It had my IP... I'm new to this wiki stuff, just thought I'd add some information but seems it was deleted. Just some background info. Nevermind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by XMDIOOI (talkcontribs) 19:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't s%$# on my work![edit]

Don't shit on my contributions, you prick! Go find yourself a job, a real job! --Officer Boscorelli (talk) 23:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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FERROL[edit]

STOP VANDALISING THIS ENTRY THANKS!!!! @_@ --Gladys Tuffnell (talk) 21:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet[edit]

I find this as offensive ... particularly coming from such a beautiful young Italian!! <<This user is a 'sockpuppet of user:Colin Gleen. Please take some action against him/her/it. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 17:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)>>[reply]

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Canosa di Puglia: 8 May 2010[edit]

Could you please explain why again you removed the galleries on the Canosa di Puglia page. You failed to adequately explain the policy by stating in your notes that is was not in Commons. I suspect you didn't check as they clearly are in Wikipedia Commons. Would you please describe in better detail the idea of deleting such galleries completely. I can understand reformatting the galleries and placing the pictures elsewhere, but the deletions would indicate that this is a point of view as you fail to substantiate their deletion.

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Prince Belmonte: 12 April 2010[edit]

On 20th March 2010 you removed a great deal of content from the above article, with no justifications for the edits. I revised the changes so that any who have an interest in Southern Italy prior to the unification of Italy could continue to access the information on this set of individuals who had importance in that era.

I see that on 12th April you have repeated the wholesale deletions, this time with comments: viz Finishing purging out excess of araldic (useless) detail)/rv totally unrelevant, overdetailed noble-stuff/...Purged of serfish attributions.

Your edit comments such as 'araldic (useless) detail' and 'serfish attributions' indicate a personal view which is revisionist, to say the least. Italy in the south functioned as a feudal aristocracy for hundreds of years: the Belmonte article does not claim that was a good or bad thing- but to delete the facts is not going to remove the history, and a 'serfish attribution'- an opinion- is in other words 'the power of the feudal aristocracy'- a fact. My question to you as an editor is whether you can really be sure this article with its full material is not of interest to others? Is it not a legitimate matter for such 'araldic' material to be available in an article on a relevant subject for those who ARE interested in the topic? [By 'araldic' I take you to mean 'heraldic'.]

For brevity, I am going to pick three items which you deleted which would appear to be of interest to a student of southern Italy's history, as examples of many others:

1. 'General Commander of the Austrian Army at the Battle of Bitonto, during the War of Polish Succession.' The entry on this individual was totally destroyed by your edit. Was he really so irrelevant to the country/region's history?

2. Here is a reference which would have helped guide any person with an interest in the topic to original source material, again deleted, with no decent justification: 'Secretarías Provinciales, Libro 152, folios 90 vº y ss, Departamento de Referencias, Archivo General de Simancas (Valladolid)'

3. Would it not be of interest to see the military connection between the control and resourcing of two castles in Puglia (Copertino and Galatone) and a fortress against Saracen invasion at Belmonte? How can a reader capture this after your deletions?

I understand that you are an active editor on Wikipedia. But, given your expertise, do you really see a justification for the wholesale destruction of content, including footnotes which provide guidance to original materials? You have the skill to refine and improve material, but wholesale deletions based on an apparent dislike for topics relating to the history of southern Italy appear to show a serious lack of objectivity.

I am not going to continue to defend this article, re-posting large parts of an article that you have deleted twice wholesale, including what appears to be a significant amount of research by others into original materials. But I am registering disappointment that an article which I enjoyed learning from has been rendered to a skeleton of its former self- and is now, frankly, pointless.

PS Where are the photographs now of the castles held by this family historically? Are you really maintaining by deleting them that this material is not of interest in enriching an article and making it more informative/interesting to a reader? Extraordinary.

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History of Islam in southern Italy[edit]

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Really old copyright issue[edit]

I've been working my way through some suspected copyright issue articles and came across Primavera (painting) which you created back in October 2005. This article appears to have been primarily a copy/paste from www.wga.hu which looks like a copyright violation as they clearly state "© Web Gallery of Art", however in looking at your other contributions around that time I see, for example, File:Madonna Masaccio.jpg for which you state "Permission by www.wga.hu". I am wondering if you had explicit permission to place their text onto Wikipedia also and if that permission was ever communicated to the Wikimedia foundation (through OTRS or whatever system they may have had in place back then). Is anything ringing a bell? VernoWhitney (talk) 03:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. It had skipped my mind to actually look through your old talk pages before asking you about the situation. I'll try and follow up with those who had previously talked to you about the copyright status of those articles and see what they figured out. Thanks again! VernoWhitney (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would you happen to still have the email or whatever other communication you had from www.wga.hu granting you permission to use their material? VernoWhitney (talk) 13:49, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm sorry if I upset you, that was not my intent. I am not opening a copyright violation against you, I am opening an investigation into those articles you created 5 years ago. I am aware that any copyright situation was unintentional, but there is still copyrighted material present in some of the articles you created, and unless we have usable permission from the copyright holders it needs to be removed. VernoWhitney (talk) 20:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Roman Renaissance[edit]

Dear Attilios, you are soooo polite! I am currently in the UK visiting family. I haven't been doing any more on Wiki than keeping an eye on the pages that I watch. I am not very good at using my son's laptop and keep making things disappear! I will see what I can do. Amandajm (talk) 10:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Scusa se ti disturbo ancora una volta per una cosa vecchia di un anno fa. Nella voce su Franco Sacchetti c'è un tizio che sta inserendo un "also known as Frano Sacetic" che non sta né in cielo né in terra, rollbackando a tutto spiano anche chi gli segnala che un nome del genere non è mai stato utilizzato da nessun autore, nemmeno in Croazia! Puoi dargli un occhio? Grazie e ciao.--151.21.254.68 (talk) 17:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scusa ancora se ti disturbo, ma quel tizio addirittura adesso ha inserito questa modifica: addirittura Sacchetti sarebbe nato a Ragusa in Italia, e così il furbone ha cancellato tutto quanto in un colpo solo! Purtroppo per lui (e per noi, che dobbiamo leggere simili bestialità), Sacchetti è nato a Ragusa in Dalmazia, da un padre mercante fiorentino che era trasferito là per affari.--151.21.249.158 (talk) 16:54, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Faccio il mio ultimo intervento nella tua talk page e poi mi taccio: purtroppo dopo un giro di valzer siamo tornati al punto d'inizio: il tizio ha rimesso al suo posto Frano Sacetic. Sconfortante.--151.21.249.158 (talk) 18:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to make sure, I think a note should be left in the article discussion demanding that a reliable and verifiable source is provided to show where the Croatian name comes from, before adding it again to the article. --Piero Montesacro (talk) 19:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC) -- Done --Piero Montesacro (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Please bambino, do it not more. We are in reconstruction of the article. Thank you for your suggestions, but notify me first of any observation. Grazie :) --Albeiror24 - English - Español - Italiano - ខ្មែរ 16:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm agree. I am reviewing the article line by line. Thank you for your participation. It is very welcome. Grazie. --Albeiror24 - English - Español - Italiano - ខ្មែរ 04:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Image galleries[edit]

Hi! I see you've done a lot of work improving articles, especially those related to Italy and Italian culture, where your knowledge is especially valuable. However, I'd appreciate it if you'd read and respond to my points at Talk:Achiam before continuing to insist that the article's image "gallery" must be deleted.

In addition, please be more thoughtful in composing your edit summaries. Summaries such as...

  • The previous article was clearly written by an ignorant of architectural history
  • rv stupid advices in the external links... This is an ENCYCLOPEDIA!!!!
  • reverted to section pre-messy additions by semilliterate

...are uncalled for (though they do provide some unintentional—I assume—comic relief when read as a group). Also, what does sthg, seen in many of your summaries, mean? EEng (talk) 21:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hi[edit]

Piacere, I met you editing some articles, or their talk, I'm editing too, like Fausto Veranzio or Franco Sacchetti. So, watching pictures of your graduating on your user page I wonder in wich university did u take your degrees, It seems to be familiar. Is it in Rome or Turin? See you around, --Theirrulez (talk) 02:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that's why it seemed so familiar.. ;) Ciao! --Theirrulez (talk) 14:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Caribbean International[edit]

Why the removal of the convert tag? It makes the data approachable for both users of international units and those of other system. Granted, it may be more appropriate to list international measure first, followed by the conversion - but no reason to remove entirely. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 20:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Foscari[edit]

Ciao, I would value your opinion here Talk:Ca' Foscari Palace - the page name irritates me just to look at it, to me it seems like moving the White House to White House Palace. The page needs a lot of copyediting etc too, but I have not touched it, as I assume the editor concerned is in the middle of a large re-write and so it's probably unecessary.  Giano  18:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article Kamishli[edit]

Hi, i saw that you edited that article with minor edits. The user Sanharib made an edit to that article, adding; "Kamishli is an ASSYRIAN city". Could you please remove that, since im not able to edit that article, i have to be semi-user. Kamishli is an Syriac town in Syria, not Assyrian. Assyria does not exist, Thanks Suroyono (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May 2010 edition of the WikiProject Munich newsletter[edit]

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Nuragic[edit]

Yes, I think it would be a good candidate. PiCo (talk) 23:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leghorn[edit]

Hi, why are you changing Leghorn to Livorno? DuncanHill (talk) 21:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words about my work :) as to Leghorn, redirects are cheap, and the usual English-language name is Leghorn. I'm not going to go about reverting you, but personally I don't see a need for change. DuncanHill (talk) 22:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, even if consensus has been reached to use Livorno for the article, I still do not see the need to change all the links. My Oxford Dictionary of the World, OUP, 1995 has Leghorn, and I suspect that many other recentish reference works would still have Leghorn. DuncanHill (talk) 22:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to remember somebody saying that "Leghorn" looked horribly outdated. I am not an Englishman or American, but I think, the better and more precise way in such situations is always to get stuck to the name used for the article, in order to grant Wikipedia at least a decent degree of uniformity! Ciao! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 22:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
May I just interject here and say that speaking from quite a lot of personal experience with British, Americans and Italians all discussing Livorno that Leghorn is seldom, if ever, referred to. I think also (not that it proves anything) if you google the English speaking "cruise ships sailing to Florence|Rome" you will find they dock at Livorno rather than Leghorn. I think that today Leghorn is very outdated. It certainly is quite different from Firenze and Florence which has a clear and definite nationaly spoken preference.  Giacomo  12:08, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Perché? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 19:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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SS Ernst Brockelmann[edit]

I've reverted your edit. If you care to check the sources, they are nearly all imperial units given, which are converted into metric for the convenience of readers who understand metric measurements better than imperial measurements. There may be the odd occasion where a measurement quoted by a source in metric is given as imperial first for consistency. There are many thousands of ship articles which use dual measurements. For modern ships, sources generally give measurements in metric, which are naturally quoted first and converted to imperial. Off the top of my head, MV Danny F II is one of these. Mjroots2 (talk) 20:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I note you've reverted my reinstatement of sourced measurement. Raised at WT:SHIPS#SS Ernst Brockelmann. Mjroots2 (talk) 20:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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History of Tuscany[edit]

Hi Attilios, you removed lists of rulers from History of Tuscany today. Any particular reason? I feel that they are useful because they make the article something of a hub or a jumping-off point for Medici and other rulers. AWhiteC (talk) 18:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It comes as a bit a surprise that Wikipedia discourages lists; I see lots of them! Anyway, I see your point that the information is replicated in expanded form to a large extent in Grand Duchy of Tuscany but I thought it was useful to have a summary (including date ranges). Since I put that list stuff in initially, I tend to have a sentimental attachment to it. AWhiteC (talk) 09:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Semi-literate" isn't a term that should feature in edit summaries (especially when, as here, it isn't justified: the writing was a bit clumsy, but the original editor appears to be a non-native speaker of English, as in fact you are). Nor should "stupid", which you seem to like using a lot. It certainly doesn't help the project in the slightest for you to slag off other editors in this way, so perhaps you'd stop. I see from various messages further up the page that you've been told this before. HeartofaDog (talk) 01:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be borderline edit warring over the infobox at this article. You haven't quite hit WP:3RR yet, but all the same, it's a little concerning. I did see that you broached the subject on the other user's talk page, which is good, but I might suggest you voluntarily cease reverting until there's been more discussion on the matter to determine consensus. Even if you're right, a series of reversions of each other doesn't help the article, and often it tends to cause the opposing sides to dig in, escalating the conflict. Perhaps you could request comments from editors belonging to the arts WikiProject? Shimeru (talk) 07:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, good. I would point out that the other decided to fire the matter with "fucking" and other insults. Let me know and good work! --Attilios (talk) 07:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
(Pasted the above from my talk page for continuity of discussion.) Maybe so, but insults don't justify edit warring. It's tempting to get into a more combative state of mind after you see something you take as a provocation, but that's usually counterproductive for a project like this. Shimeru (talk) 08:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The infoboxes are not required and clearly several other editors who have worked very long and hard on those articles have determined that they are unnecessary there. Please respect that decision. Thank you...Modernist (talk) 10:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Italy[edit]

Hello. Maybe you'll be interested in this CFD nomination. Regards. - Darwinek (talk) 11:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I removed the section you didn't like. But you please at least consider putting back those two sentences? PiCo (talk) 01:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Palazzo Doria Pamphilj[edit]

As you are from Rome, would you mind taking a look here Doria Pamphilj Gallery and confirm if that image is the palazzo. I was about to upload a sequence of photographs I took the other day, but if the image in the article is the plazzo, then I must have taken the wrong building because it looks nothing like mine - which I suppose is posible.  Giacomo  16:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry. I sussed it out.  Giacomo  16:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks![edit]

Hey, Attolios, thanks for your contribution to Antonio Barberini and Taddeo Barberini. Much appreciated! Stalwart111 (talk) 05:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trecento[edit]

I have replied to you at my talk page. Please don't revert any further until this is discussed a bit more, as I think you are in error here. Fram (talk) 13:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it alright for you if I undo your reovals of the cat "trecento" from some articles? I don't want to editwar over a category, but I am not ceratin whether you still oppose this categorization or if I have convinced you that on the English language Wikipedia, Trecento is an acceptable term for Italian artists of the 14th century. Fram (talk) 14:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Triptych of the Blessed St. Augustine Novellus, left panel, lower scene: St. Augustine and a child falling from a balcony, c. 1328

Why did you delete this painting from the article? In my opinion it belongs in the article...Modernist (talk) 13:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I returned it to the article...Modernist (talk) 14:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for deletion[edit]

A whole bunch of categories that you created years ago is put for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_June_21#Period_or_architecture_sites_in_Italy_and_Germany. East of Borschov (talk) 18:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Attilios: You have deleted the excerpt of the inscription on the border of the basin, which is relevant for double reason: for being the main inscription in the central element of the court, the fountain, the "main character of the court", and for being a poem composed specifically for that location, which subject is a poetic description of the court itself, and of the fountain. I don´t see a reason for the deletion. Please, check it and respond. Thanks. Garcilaso (talk) 23:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even more references here: [15] Garcilaso (talk) 23:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

State designations for US cities; incivility[edit]

Please stop removing state designations accompanying names of US cities, as you did here [16] and many other places. Style guidelines call for state names to accompany US city names, because many US cities share the same name e.g. Portland, Oregon and Portland, Maine:

  • WP#Place_namesWP:PN#Place_names: "In general, refer to places by the names which are used for the articles on those places, according to the rules described at [WP:PLACE]"
  • WP:PLACE#United_States: "The standard form for municipalities and unincorporated communities in the United States is Placename, State"

Please review the guidelines I've cited and either explain why your edits are an exception, or restore the state designations you have removed. If you feel postal abbreviations such as CA are opaque you should expand them to full names, not remove them. The exception is certain cities (listed at [17], such as San Francisco) too well known to require further qualification.

In addition, I again ask you again to moderate the tone of your edit summaries, which continue to insult your fellow editors. Further to the examples brought to your attention earlier [18], you have in recent weeks submitted such summaries as:

  • rv stupid American acronyms which are not understandable for non US-readers
  • rv stupid tourist informations
  • Purged all the genealogici illiterate crap
  • updated and corr. crap English
  • rv crap stuff, other format revision
  • rv stupid repetition of Firenze, Florence
  • This article is useless
  • Only an Anglophone could make so many Italian errors!!!
  • Rv typical errors from the ones who don't speak Italian
  • rv stupid Anglophone incapability to write Italian words
  • Some typical error of Anglophones when they try to write ITalian names (I wonder: are they really so difficult to copy?
  • The level of the one who created this article was proportional to the brain of the same

Your favorite insult seems to be stupid, but your evaluations of others' writing as "crap English" and "illiteracy" are particularly startling given that your own command of English falls far short of your self-awarded evaluation of en-3 (Advanced) [19]. Both your edit summaries and article text display frequent grammatical and spelling blunders, plus the occasional malapropism, and are at times unintelligible e.g. dried and purged of illiteracy.

It might also be mentioned that you don't seem to know the difference between rv and rm in edit summaries [20], which I suspect comes from spending too little time reading the contributions of other editors to learn how things are done and not done. Your contributions are valuable, but your arrogance is unacceptable. This has been called to your attention before, and not just by me [21]. This is the last time I'll be warning you about this before raising the matter formally with other editors.

Your editing habits first came to my attention via certain edits [22] by which you made part of the article's lead meaningless and unaccountably placed Harvard University in England. I suggest you slow down, read more and disparage less, and direct you edit summaries to content, not your superior opinions of other editors.

Finally, it's rude to fail to acknowledge thoughtful comments and criticism. Please reply here (not on my talk page) so that others can follow the conversation.

EEng (talk) 02:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but according to me, in the direction of standardization, the fact that only US (sometimes UK) states are mentioned, while for foreign countries no, is a bias. I think any country should have the same dignity. Notice that I revert that just in twin towns lists. I always leave the US city name-state format hidden in the link, while the city name alone is mentioned. So if you click you are immediately send to the correct city. Where is the problem?

As for incivility, I apologize, but sometimes I am really tired of the dumbness and lack of culture I notice here! What can I do? What will you do if you're working here and find 10000 times written "Porland" instead of "Portland"? Or the humiliating silliness of fans writing articles about singers and similar? I really seem 90% people has never read a true encyclopedia in their life! But you're true. I will stop and stay silent for the sake of philanthropy. Ciao, thanks and good work!!

'''Attilios''' (talk) 06:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First, I appreciate your commitment to keeping your frustrations more to yourself in future. As I mentioned a few weeks ago, you are in an unusually good position to improve Wikipedia's treatment of Italian culture. You seem to be systematically looking for problems in that area, and are probably one of very few people doing that, so you're going to run into many such problems, and multiple instances of each problem over and over. You just have to accept that, and let each error you correct be a cause for rejoicing -- There's one less error now! -- and a source of pride in your contribution, rather than one more thing to grumble about.

Second, please continue a conversations in the place where it began. If someone leaves a comment on your talk page, respond there. If they comment on an article talk page, respond there. Conversational fragments scattered all around are meaningless.

Now, on the US city-state matter:

Most Wikipedia style guidelines say that "occasional exceptions may apply," but your blanket rejection of particular guidelines as "biased" is not appropriate. If you disagree with MOS you should open a discussion at the appropriate talk pages and gain consensus for change. In the meantime, you need to follow the guidelines, which are the way they are for the reason already explained: the name alone of a US city is ambiguous e.g. there are about 40 communities named Washington alone! [23]

This has nothing to do with dignity. If a similar condition obtains in some other country, and the guidelines don't reflect that, then by all means suggest one be developed for that country. As for standardization, it's good where it helps and bad where it doesn't: forcing everything onto a Procrustean bed in blind pursuit of standardization is irrational.

It is not enough, as you argue, that the link behind the text takes the reader to the right Washington or right Portland -- the name of the US state should be explicit in the text to tell the reader right away which Portland, because to the extent possible text should stand on its own without needing the link to disambiguate it. The link is for readers to learn more about that particular city; the reader should not, to the extent it can be avoided, be required to follow the link simply to understand the identity of the city in the first place. Readers unfamiliar with the state names/abbreviations will need to click on the link anyway, but there's no reason everyone should have to do that: for the majority of readers on English Wikipedia (all US readers, and many in the UK and elsewhere) including state names or abbreviations tells them what they need to know, at little cost.

If you prefer and space permits, you might want to expand state designations to full names; a list is at [24].

Like it or not, as a non-native speaker of English, you need to take extra trouble to understand English-speaking cultural reference points -- not doing this has brought you into unnecessary conflict. I hate to bring this up so soon, but for some reason my mention (above) of the Lowell House article prompted you to revisit it and make two changes that were not appropriate; see wp:MOS:

  • "Do not use U.S.A. or USA, except in a quotation or as part of a proper name (Team USA)."
  • "Use italics when mentioning a word or letter..." (here ALL is not being quoted so much as exhibited as a thing, making italics more appropriate than quote marks)

These style points might not make sense to you as a non-native speaker, illustrating the importance of your understanding the style guidelines as well as possible. I urge you to review these especially:

  • wp:MOS
  • wp:ENGLISH
  • wp:PLACE
  • wp:UE and especially...
  • wp:MOSPN (Proper names "are frequently a source of conflict between editors from different backgrounds, especially in cases where different cultures, using different names, 'claim' someone or something as their own. Wikipedia does not seek to judge such rival claims, but as a general rule uses the name which is likely to be most familiar to readers of English...This is an English-language encyclopedia, so established English names are preferred...")

Finally, "Fans writing articles about singers and similar" does not "humiliate" you, though you might think they don't improve the project. I don't like such articles either but I don't think it's important enough to me for me to spend time on. You may feel differently, and you ask "What can I do?" -- to which the answer is: as with the city-state matter, you can work to change notability rules by opening discussion at appropriate places. But first you need to read and understand the discussion that came before -- to jump in with "This is all crap!" without knowing how things got to where they are at the moment (rightly or wrongly) will get you absolutely nowhere.

I would not have taken the time to write the above if I did not think your contributions have special value, so please take them in the spirit in which they are offered. Good luck. And leave those state names alone, please.

EEng (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your removal of the image of Baltasar Gracián. The reason you gave for removing it was that the caption was written in Spanish (Castilian). The man's name is Baltasar Gracián, he was Spanish, how do you expect it to be written? Baltasar Gracián is his name. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 16:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you mind very much if I change the pics? The more horizontal pics you use, rather than verticals, the more you can fit in. There are same great ones which ought to be included. Amandajm (talk) 11:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! What a superb building! Need more coffee! I'll be back!
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OK! Go and have a look now! I've been having fun! Amandajm (talk) 14:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re images and Commons: I see Commons as a picture archive, there for using by students, researchers and writers. You general reader doesn't go there. It's usefulness is to people who are already in the know. The captions often leave much to be desired, the pics aren't sequentially arranged. When one uses an image in a picture, it has to "tell the story". The pics that I selected for the body of the article are the "bigger picture" so to speak. One really wants to see the interior of the church, and the interior of the chapter house. These pics don't fit into a gallery well, because they are detailed. However, the pics that I put down in the gallery, are all "details" already. A gallery needs to add real value, and it's about the captions. I do wish that the exterior view that shows so much information- the shape of the church, the cloister, the dome, the portal and so on, was a really good photo instead of a grainy shot that doesn't enlarge well. But is looks OK at small size in the article. Amandajm (talk) 11:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Attilios, I don't think that the cathedrals of England are better than the cathedrals of Spain. But I am better qualified to write about things which I have seen and studied for years. I know about the development of English architecture. I also know a fair bit about Italian architecture. But I don't really have expertise in the development of Catalan architecture. I can see what I can see. Cheers! Amandajm (talk) 10:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ciao! Surely I was joking!! Your help is always sooo welcome even if you can just rewrite my ridiculous English! Aloha and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 10:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just took a quick look at Ely Cathedral (the pic). You must admit, that west front must have been really something spectacular befor one side fell down! I went there twelve years ago with my husband, son and sister. It was Harvest Festival and because Ely is in a rural area, the decoration of the cathedral was magnificent. In the remains of the cloister there was a huge pile of fruit and flowers (I mean huge). All between the piers of the nave were stands of local produce: honey, wheat, apples, flowers (a man with a big shiny face had tubs of great shiny begonias each as round as his face). In the centre of the enormously long nave were pens with calves, lambs and I seem to remember a little donkey. All the local school children were there (in uniform) and were petting the animals. We went into the little cafe in the base of the demolished tower and ate something that they called "cathedral pudding" (bread and butter custard, I think it was). We also went into the huge free-standing Lady Chapel (its decoration badly wrecked in the 1600s). Two people came along who were attending a function, and we all got singing hymns in four part harmony as we had a soprano, a contralto, a tenor and a bass. What a lovely morning! Amandajm (talk) 10:18, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's the Lady Chapel which is peeking around the corner of the missing tower. It is a spectacular building with the widest stone vault in England. Amandajm (talk) 10:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Attilios! First, thanks for your appreciative comments! I certainly plan to complete and bring the rest of the Isaurian period article to the same level, and then probably do the Amorian period too, for they are perhaps the most under-appreciated periods in the Empire's history. The other periods also need lots of work of course, but it will be some time before I will be able to do anything about that. I've got a couple of dozen ongoing projects or other articles I want to do, so time is short. Any help you can offer will, of course, be appreciated, be it pointing out an unclear sentence or a mistake, or adding some important point you feel I overlooked. Just be bold and edit. Since Byzantium is an area where only a handful of editors are active, IMO, if you can go ahead and write up even a sketchy, rudimentary outline on some of these topics (e.g. the horribly short Byzantium under the Justinian dynasty), you'd be helping a great deal. And if you can bring some respectable Italian sources in, that'd be a further bonus.

For the map, it has some problems, and I have been revising it for some time now, although the present status is still nowhere near good enough for it to be uploaded. For Naples and Gaeta, both cities are usually listed as acknowledging at least nominal Byzantine suzerainty at the time, their rulers accepting Byzantine titles etc. Now I admit that Byzantine Italy is not my field of expertise, so if you have some good sources to show otherwise, I'll change that too. Best regards, Constantine 18:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I saw you wrote many articles about Italy. I've noticed that the Duomo di Pisa doesn't have an article on its own like in italian, spanish or german and I think it deserves one, and not to be a part of Piazza dei Miracoli. Who do I need to ask to write such an article or discuss the issue ? Thanks.. Tt100 (talk) 00:29, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mi sono casualmente imbattuto nel summenzionato articolo, e devo dire che si tratta della peggior cosa che io abbia mai visto nella mia vita. Trovo la sua esistenza nell'attuale forma a dir poco vergognosa. Non sono pratico, ma se dipendesse da me lo eliminerei subito. Mi rivolgo a lei perché saprà certamente cosa fare. Saluti. --95.251.19.144 (talk) 17:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Polycolumns seems OK. I think the usual English would be "clustered columns". You used the term "blind columns" rather than ""fake columns" so I presumed you meant "blind arcade". I would call them "attached shafts" or "attached columns" (depending on size and detail) if they retain a curved surface. If they do not, then they are "pilasters". Amandajm (talk) 02:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the tip. I feel a little embarrassed; I'm usually the most anal person on Earth about getting things like this right. Next time I translate an article, I'll be sure to do it on plenty of rest. Thanks a million! --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 13:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking at it again, it does look better. Thanks. I'm afraid I can't find the Albano reference in the article. If you could direct me to it I'd happily find out which one it is for you and disam it properly. Thanks, Corneredmouse (talk) 09:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Reversion of honours for Umberto II of Itally[edit]

You recently reverted the addition that I made to Umberto II of Italy in which I had added a referenced list of his membership of various orders and you provided no explanation for doing so. Such lists are not uncommon in articles on monarchs. I would appreciate an explanation for your removal of the list. Cheers, AusTerrapin (talk) 23:12, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao! I removed them as, in my opinion, their encyclopedical value is totally null. To know that boring list of empty noble titles, what does it give to the reader? The article doubles its size, with its knowledge value remaining the same. Anyway, let me know... Good work! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 23:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. That is a big assumption. Whilst for some, even many, readers this information will be of little value, for others, it is of significant interest. There is ample precedent on Wikipedia for the inclusion of such information, so I am going to restore it. Cheers, AusTerrapin (talk) 00:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Ruth Rendell - prolific[edit]

Hi Attilios,
While I completely agree with the removal of the unsourced and possibly OR pronunciation stuff, I don't think that "prolific" fails NPOV. It is a fact that she has written a lot of books. I would argue, if that failed NPOV, then that J. D. Salinger was reclusive, and that Thomas Pynchon is publicity-shy would by analogy also fail NPOV. Your thoughts on this?
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Photo of Sassari[edit]

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Sicels[edit]

Ciao Attilios, tutto bene spero. Posso chiederti come mai hai rv Zjarri [26] allorquando sia lui che Athenean si sono messi daccordo? --Sulmues (talk) 20:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Abrantes[edit]

Hello. I just wanted to justify the revert of the Infobox to Geobox formats on the Abrantes Municipality page. I have been in a slow process of updating the Infoboxes to Geoboxes on many of the Portugual-related geography pages because it is better suited to geography-based content then the older infoboxes. The Geobox is an all-around user-friendly, more flexible format that integrates current content, with flexible categories and provides expandability that does not compromise the integrity of the structure. I justify its use in the following reasons: it is based on 'one standard template of code and synatax with multiple comprehensive categories; which covers all the geography-based information; it is flexible, and can be augmented with qualifiers (_size, _type, etc.); integrates preexisting infobox content (i.e.UNESCO World Heritage Infobox); provides easy to use fields, which does not require knowledge of markup, as in some infoboxes (for example, needing to ad "px" to picture sizes); integrates Wikimedia Commons redirects; provides map-specific content, with expanded map definitions; integrates imagery; and includes new geography-based content built-in to the existing structure in a logical order, and not just tagged onto the end as "free". In addition, its aesthetic is more refined and updated then infobox settlement, which integrates with the Wikipedia design. But, as you will note at the Geobox article clearly indicates the intention of the Geobox replacement, which is comprehensive design that in one base template, supports all the pre-existing geography-related infoboxes. When I began editing Wikipedia geography content, I slowly realized that there existed many infoboxes, but only the Geobox schema was flexible enough to be used in many circumstances (physical and human geography) to provide a summary of the content. Finally, I would just note that the revert of the Geobox elminiated a lot of the content that existed there including settlement information, free-cell information, etymology, municipality, political and historical summaries. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 10:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I read your comments, and agree completely about standardization. But, as I included in my arguments above that, the Geobox is the better form for this means, since it allows the flexibility necessary to include more geographic information. I hope you understand if I continue to advance the use of this form, as I elaborate new content, rather than the infobox. Regardless, I really appreciate your comments on the proper terms, and bolding conventions, I will begin putting those conventions into my edits, starting with the Angústias page.Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 16:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you move that page back please? Your reason for moving it is a bit strange and in any case would require at least a quick debate on the talk page. The old title never suggested Álava was a city and also, virtually all municipalities in Spain are listed in that format (see Category:Lists of municipalities in Spain). Thanks Akerbeltz (talk) 11:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Attilios[edit]

So nice to hear from you. I feel down in the dumps! Please check out Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci. A man from across the Tasman Sea is trying to convince me that it is a self portrait by leo himself. I need to call in reinforcements!

Also Sagrada Familia- read the talk page! I will go and check Sant'Andrea. It looks very pretty!

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Questions[edit]

  • The hut-like shape of the central sector What is the Italian word that you are translating as "hut"?
  • What is "cotto"? I could find Cotto the pugilist and a cotto pizza but neither seemed right! Would stucco be better?

Amandajm (talk) 11:31, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hut I think that word that you need is a gable.

Amandajm (talk) 13:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, those three examples all have the roof ovelapping the gable end. Here's some others. Amandajm (talk) 23:21, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lucan portrait[edit]

Oh, the poor guy! I wouldn't call him a stalker! I think what he is doing now is writing his "case" offline, and will soon put it up. I haven't checked today. I'll check your monastry page. Amandajm (talk) 03:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Santo Sepolcro (Pisa)[edit]

I see you originally created this article, so maybe you can sort out what looks like some confusion. The article says that it was created by Diotisalvi, and that the church was known from at least 1113, but the Diotisalvi article says that he worked in the second half of the 12th century, and created the Baptistry (Pisa), which started in 1152. Did he design both? Dudley Miles (talk) 23:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I have now seen that a note to the article says that there is a plaque which says they were designed by the same man, so there is a source after all. It was just the statement you corrected which confused me. The article wrongly says that he designed the cathedral instead of the bapistry, so I have corrected this. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have also found a picture of the plaque and added it to the note. Dudley Miles (talk) 00:08, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why?[edit]

...do you so continually complain about us poor English-speakers? We love and adore your horrible country, its landscape, its towns, its artworks and even, sometimes, its people! Maybe the poor stupid Englishman from the BBC was relying on an interpreter from California. Why does Barbatelli read our encyclopedia in English and send back complaints in Italian? After all, I only comprehend six words of Italian: cappuccino, focaccia, spaghetti, Chianti, grazie and ciao... One does not need any more. If one attempts to use Italian to ask the Florentine waiter for shin of beef with garlic beans and a local red, he looks down his nose and sniggers: "Oh God! The fat English woman and her stupid son have Calabrian accents!" and if one asks the information officer at the railway station what time the train goes to Bologna he says "Who cares?" and goes on talking into his cell phone.... (so why do I expect you to be more polite?) Amandajm (talk) 13:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

desktop... I'm sure you're right!

Oh, I miss Italy! But it has changed since I first visited in the 1970s. If you went to a bar and asked for juice, there was a big jug on the counter of whatever fruit was in season, and some glasses on a tray. When I returned in the 1980s there was a fridge full of Coke and Fanta. After that it was downhill all the way. In Milan in the mid 1990s, it was impossible to find a cheap cafe that didn't sprinkle revolting "chicken salt" laced with msg over all the food. I believe that Venetian restauranteurs lost the battle to keep out Colonel Sanders! So sad!
As for the Rugby: one can not help wondering how it is that a little country of about 20 million can field so many excellent sporting teams: Cricket, Rugby Union, Rugby League, Football (which we refer to as Soccer), Baseball, Hockey, Basketball as well as all the home competitions of Australian Rules. The history of Football in Australia is quite interesting as in the mid 20th century the two games that were mainly played were Rugby League in Sydney and Rugby Union in Melbourne, but the post-war migrants all played Football/soccer and established their own teams, each originally made up of people of a particular nationality. In our location, it is still hard for for any kid that isn't Macedonian to get onto a team.

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Churches in Fiesland[edit]

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Grazie[edit]

Ciao. Grazie per il supporto morale. Questo portoghese è assurdo. Si ostina a scrivere ***** --Davide41 (talk) 14:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao. Quel portoghese continua a vandalizzare la voce su Cristoforo Colombo. Potresti farlo presente agli amministratori ? Grazie. --Davide41 (talk) 15:49, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Fra Angelico[edit]

Good Fellow! But it is 2.30 am in the Land of Oz, and my son has just yelled at me to go to bed. Plz check out what I have written on the talk page of the Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci. Amandajm (talk) 15:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you there? Would you mind taking a look at the Lucan portrait analysis on my talk page. People are getting upset with me! Amandajm (talk) 05:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I gave a check... but I lost something perhaps? Anyway last days were a nightmaer at work, promise help in the weekend! 'nite! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 05:16, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Attilios! I hope your work situation gets easier. Over here, I am surrounded by personal dramas.
There is a Press Cconference to be held soon, on this painting. The painting is going to be displayed at the Capitoline Museum, along with the Portrait of a Musician from Milan. I would like to know how it is reported in the Italian Press. I would also like to know which Italian Art Historians are in support of this attribution, and whether there are any opposing opinions.
I may be wrong, but it seems to me that they are only asking :How can we prove Leonardo did this?. They are not asking: Which artist could have made this painting?
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Merry, merry[edit]

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thanks for your Machiavelli and Guicciardini edits[edit]

Well, that's all I had to say really. I had been hoping someone would go over the Guicciardini article soon!--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great! We need more people who know this area. I have done some recent work on the Machiavelli article, which was hopefully an improvement, but I only had Guicciardini on my watchlist, not yet feeling up to it. I did also recently create the Vettori article. It just a stub for now. Can you add to it? --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. I meant Francesco Vettori.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 20:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. Indeed I am not sensitive to the Italian. Thank you for fixing that. I'll have a look at Pietro Vettori, but I am not familiar with him so I won't necessarily be able to help much.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Any ideas on how the various Vettoris were related? Might be nice to mention it and place wikilinks?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Italian: Alessandro Farnese/Spanish: Alejandro Farnesio[edit]

In Spain and its empire, and also in other European countries was known as Don Alejandro Farnesio, its name in Spanish. Thanks for your contribution! History6969 (talkcontribs) 21:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Moro[edit]

That is indeed a substantive article. I am not a native English speaker, so I suggest you put your request for copy editing to Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. Good luck. - DonCalo (talk) 20:43, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Aldo Moro kidnapping[edit]

Hi

It is a very interesting article, I have found it fascinating to be honest.

I am only half way through however, it is pretty big lol!

I should be finished in about an hour. There is a list of stuff to look at on the talk page which I am still adding to as I go through it. I will put a note here once I have finished :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 18:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One thing is the "Lago della Duchessa" - I cannot find an English translation of it. I may have been wrong in translating it as "Lake Duchess". I think it could be "Lake of the Duchess", but I can only find [27] Chaosdruid (talk) 19:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have finished ! Wow what a lot of information. It seems to me that there were some definite underhand dealings and Moro was not allowed to form a solid government. It would have meant and end to the Maffia and to the corruption that it seems all the politicians and members of the police/security forces were enjoying. It would also have played into the hands of ALL the secret organisations from the CIA to P2. I am surprised there is not any real involvement by the Russian secret services, though I am sure there will be something hidden away in some secret bunker under the Kremlon!
Anyway I hope my edits have not caused any problems and hope that you can progress the article to GA or even FA!
Best wishes :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 20:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Opportunity to comment on Batavia[edit]

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FS E.330[edit]

Caro Attilios, in it.Wiki ho riscritto e spero di portare in vetrina la voce sulle locomotive FS E.330. Te la segnalo se volessi tradurla e pubblicarla in en.Wiki. Cordiali saluti, Alessandro Crisafulli--147.163.48.49 (talk) 12:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aiuto. Vedi anche Avviso 2. Cosa devo fare per non essere cancellato da wikipedia it?--Sweetcorn (talk) 21:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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MoS "bibliography etc"[edit]

Hi

You retitled the refs sections in the Argentina page [28].

I would be very interested to see where you got that info on the "as per MoS" comment as I spent ages trawling through the various guides to find what the correct headers would be.

I put bibliography as that is what it is, a bibliography lol.

All too often I find people retitling "References" as "Notes" like this:

==Notes==
{{reflist}}
===References===
{{citebook...

In reality notes are a ref with notes about the text being referenced, not just a ref. (ref. 135 would be a note rather than a simple ref.). A bibliogrpahy is a list of books that were used in writing something such as an article or paper, so calling the book section "sources" seems a little strange.

I am not saying you have got it wrong, or there is anything wrong with how you are doing this, nut rahter ahta I wish to look at the MoS and try and sort out why it is advising people to do it like this :¬)

Did you get anywhere with the Aldo Moro kidnapping article btw?

Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 19:21, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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2010–12 Continental Beach Volleyball Cup[edit]

Hi just wanted to see if you would be interested in helping with this article 2010–12 Continental Beach Volleyball Cup? This is an Olympics qualification tournament for the 2012 Summer Olympics. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Intoronto1125 (talk) 17:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Maria in Trastevere[edit]

The problem with the architecture categories is that they are basically rather ambiguous as to what should be included. One point with categories is that articles should be added if this feature is significant and defining. A single sentence does not make this point very clear. I and other editors have been moving much of the content in the architecture categories to the building and structures completed tree. While this is not perfect either, at least it identifies why a building is notable in a specific year. In doing this I'm finding that maybe 1 or 2% of the articles really don't seem to fit anywhere. This article was one of them. Enjoy. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:04, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios[edit]

Moltissime grazie per la tua collaborazione, se vuoi puoi anche partecipare ad altri cambi di nomi; ad ess. Benicàssim, La Nucia, e Peníscola/Peñíscola. Sto correggendo gli articoli valenziani (sembra ci sono molti sbagli). Se t'interessa, puoi anche dare un'occhiata all'ultima conversazione sul WikiProject Catalan-speaking Countries :) Jɑυмe (xarrades) 22:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Adria[edit]

Hello. in November 2010, you wrote in the Adria-article, that "in 589, and Adria became a fief of the bishopric of Ravenna." As there is no page of this bishopric, I changed it into the archdiocese of Ravenna. However, if you did mean the Exarchate of Ravenna, please feel free to correct me. Regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 10:56, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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segnalo[edit]

ti segnalo il solito vandalismo ultranazionalista croato e anti-italiano del solito fanatico bloccato il 23 marzo dopo l'ennesima guerra editoriale e non si capisce perchè non sia messo subito al bando! Continua in modo paranoico a togliere il collegamento tra foibe massacres e National Memorial Day of the Exiles and Foibe, lasciando orfana quest'ultima voce, dopo che in relativa discussione almeno una trentina di utenti, in maggioranza italiani ma non solo, gli hanno spiegato che si trattava di pulizia etnica ma ovviamente questo tizio ha un'agenda politica perchè diffonde propaganda su tutti gli articoli dell'ex Iugoslavia accusando tutte le utenze che vengono dall'Italia di essere cloni-socks: se agiamo in gruppo, lo renderemo innocuo altrimenti tu in qualità di vecchio collaboratore puoi chiederne la messa al bando in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Ciao,--Tiblocco (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Ferrari Challenge: Trofeo Pirelli[edit]

Hi there. Apparently you edited some of my recent "DLC plans" -notes in the "Ferrari Challenge: Trofeo Pirelli" -entry? I thought that these notes were kinda interesting and I had all the references in place.

Granted, I'm new to these Wiki additions (just wanted to help), so let me know what was the problem.. Perhaps it was unnecessary info? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMajestyk33 (talkcontribs) 13:01, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 2 May 2011[edit]

Hi Attilios![edit]

I will take a look at the Sistine Chapel ceiling problems. I thing it is great to have some separate articles about those other major frescoes.

Tell me about Baby Stefanino? I have a new grandson, born yesterday!

Cheers, Amandajm (talk) 00:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with your education program! My youngest son likes art and playstations.
I am waiting on more news and pictures of the baby. He is my third grandchild. The eldest is 14 already, and a girl of 4.
Re Sistine Chapel Ceiling, you edits are a little bit heavy handed... the sentence about Michelangelo being Ghirlandaip's greatest pupil, states that he was Ghirlandaio's pupil. That fact is important and is now left out. So I will put it back in some form.
Also, the quotatio that was with the picture of the ignudi was said by the pope, and is written in the text. If you read the text, you would have found where the quote was from. I'll fix that to make it clear.
Someone else made some alterations, some time ago, without much understanding of the flow of the article, and moved things around. I'll fix some of those as well.
Now I will do the rounds of my watched pages. I do get so sick of the vandalism, and people being so argumentative!
Amandajm (talk) 09:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Poor Man's Bible[edit]

I agree that this article needs a cleanup! I wrote it when I first started out. I think it might be my first complete article.

But you are being a bit too heavy handed. When you remove POV, you must rephrase the sentence to retain the information that it contains.

Also: The list of pairings of Old and New Testament subjects that you stated was irrelevant, related directly to the stained glass window that was reproduced beside the information. The pairing itself is significant, because these are the cross-references that are nearly always' used in a "Poor Man's Bible' of any sort, including the Arena Chapel frescoes. Also, at San Zaccharia, one great painting (the Bellini) doesn't usually make a "poor man's Bible (unless it is like the Ghent Altarpiece, in many parts).The point is that there are, within that church, a vast number of large oil paintings which together tell the story. It is one of the largest collections of such paintings in any church, outdoing Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari in number, if not in quality!. (Frari is one of my favourite churches in the whole world)

Also, did you notice that the "gallery" was not an arbitrary collection of images. I suspect that you did not look very carefully before you removed it! Amandajm (talk) 11:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you have been back to that article, you will notice that I removed a few more POV adjectives that I found. It did need some work!
About the gallery, I don't mind about not reinstating it, but I think it is a pity not to include the particular artworks that are described, so I think that I will do that instead.
The reason for this is because there is no single wiki commons site where they can be viewed. If your article is about Chartres Cathedral for example, you can put up a box informing the reader that there is pictorial material related to that article, specifically. But in this case, because the subject is so broad, it is not possible. I think that the Isenheim altarpiece and the Ghent Altarpiece both ought to be illustrated.
Another point: If you read the alt captions that I write, they are very much more descriptive and more likely to contain words like "huge", "tiny", "magnificent", "delicate" etc, because they are written for blind people. I have heard it argued that it is pointless to include colours because blind people can't see them, but on the contrary, the majority of blind people have previously been sighted, and can visualise the difference between something that is red, blue, grey or yellow etc, and the different atmosphere that this would give to a scene or artwork. The aim with alt texts is to provide a verbal image to the listener. It doesn't matter if the man in a photo is facing right or left, and has dark hair and a grey suit. What matters is that he is a tired-looking young man in his twenties in shabby 19th century clothing. Because I have worked with blind people on a number of levels, including devising cultural tours for them, I am quite adamant about my descriptive approach.
So if you find such descriptive language within an alt caption, please just leave it there. It has been very carefully thought out.
Thank you very much for all the painting links and so on!
I am still waiting to know my grandson's name!
Oh, incidentally, I did say that the gallery was not arbitrary: It follows the sequence of the "Life of Christ.
Amandajm (talk) 10:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just replied on my page! Amandajm (talk) 11:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I love it when the All Blacks do the haka. The Aussies stand there and pick their noses or adjust their you-know-whats. They played a team from the Solomons who were great big frizzy-headed blokes that would scare the shite out of anyone, particularly when they came at their opponents with enormous war spears, banging on shields! Oh how I wish that my dad was alive! He loved the Solomon Islands!
There is no way that any grandson of mine will turn out a rugby player. My eldest son was a tiny skinny little teenager, only as big as an 11-yr-old. So he was made the linesman for the senior Rugby League team. It was really quite entertaining when all the huge Year 12 lumbered out to collect their trophies and this child who looked like a little blonde fairy went out with them to hoots and cheers from his classmates. His bedroom wall was covered with sports pennants. Amandajm (talk) 12:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Giotto[edit]

We are tearing into Giotto now, are we? I will just let you know that the "exceedingly large weaselly word" was not mine. I happen to know that Duccio's Madonna is quite a lot bigger. That room in the (I'm too tired to even think about whether it's two fs and one zed or one ef and two zeds....that gallery place beginning with YOU).

It's Mother's Day here. I am so tired I'm sitting here yawning. toodle-oo! Amandajm (talk) 13:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So, once up tomorrow, give (if you want as usual) a check to my recent Giotto and Cimabue additions if you've time (restored the galleries if you want, as usual). I found an Ognissanti Madonna article that the unexperienced creator missed to link or categorize, and was full of POV or stuff regarding Giotto in general, which I removed. Let me know and nice dreams. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 14:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Speelling[edit]

Don't compline to me! My Inglesh speeling is dredfull! I carnt critisize enyboddy. My ecxcuse is that I am deslyxic. Is it Ufizzi or Uffizi? Assisi or Asissi? Rennaisance or Renassaince? Carravagio or Caravaggio? Massacio or Masaccio? And as for those Polly-wolly-doodle brothers, they trip me up every time! Are you in London? I saw a chap who looks like you at the airport. I was about to run over and hug him, but then I thought that if it wasnt you, maybe he would think either I was mad, or that I trying to pick his pocket. Amandajm (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mérida Theatre[edit]

Thanks for your appreciation of my edits. I think there may still be some remnants of a machine translation in this page, so I will have another look at it. -Thoughtfortheday (talk) 17:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for your introduction to Wikipedia.

Yes, the quality of some of the articles about Spain on the English Wikipedia does seem variable. I hope I can make some improvements while being polite to other editors (particularly as people are being nice about my contributions). -Thoughtfortheday (talk) 19:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Naples[edit]

Hi Attilo, what's goin on, it's a long time! Just need to know if there were any particular reason to have done this. I added a very descriptive panorama picture, don't you? Bye, glad to see u again. --Theirrulez (talk) 14:11, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao[edit]

Hi Attilios. You might remember me as the guy you had a fight with over infoboxes on van der Weyden articles a while ago. I came across you since through user:Thoughtfortheday, whom I think we both get on with, and ended up reading a few of your articles, espically on churches, and was very impressed. I see you around a fair bit and as we have shared interests, i would prefer put things like before behind us and be friends rather than that foe. Any problem with that? There are not a lot of us working on visual arts and there is a lot to do; I would certainly like to have you as a person I could for eg, helping me with translations of it.wiki articles on 15th c painting. The Spanish wiki is v strong on VA, esp Goya and Velázquez, and I'm guessing you speak good Spanish, and it would be great for me to have that access. I can help you with copyediting, finding sources, libary access, and on, and whatever. Ceoil 20:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look at your 'to do' page. Ah, I can I'm going to be exposed to a lot of new things from working with you. Ceoil 20:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh and by the way, yes you are too full of [your]self, but not enough thats its a problem ;). What you say is true, but as an Italian, you have to be more modest!! Ceoil 20:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dipinti[edit]

Ciao Attilios, grazie del messaggio e grazie soprattutto per il lavoro di traduzione che fai!! Ogni tanto darò un'occhiata se trovo qualche imprecisione, però in generale il mio lavoro si concentra già a tempo pieno su it.wiki, per cui non posso garantire revisioni complete. Nei prossimi mesi prevedo di lavorare su Correggio, Parmigianino, Andrea del Sarto, Pontormo e Rosso Fiorentino.. quindi aspettati fresche novità ;) ciao e grazie ancora! --Sailko (talk) 09:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Futurism edits[edit]

I have reverted several of your edits in articles about Futurism, mainly to the spelling of the name Fillìa. Previously, it was incorrectly accented as Fillià or not accented at all. My corrections were checked against a copy of La Cucina Futurista. I have made a few other reversions, which I hope you don't mind. Buona giornata. Marshall46 (talk) 08:59, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Attilios. I was careful about the accent, taking it from the above Italian language source. Thanks for the explanation of the use of this accent in Italian. Could it be that it was an eccentricity of Fillìa in creating his Futurist name? Non lo so. Marshall46 (talk)

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Parada Kingdom[edit]

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June 2011 Wikification Drive[edit]

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Matthias Corvinus[edit]

With all due sincerity, you deleted 100% of my content that was historically correct and proven by histrorians. Please don't do that again, or I will bring in Wikipedia arbitration members who know Central European history clear up your prejuidice, and they will vouch that everything I put in into the header was factually correct. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMyronGuyton (talkcontribs) 11:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merluccius paradoxus[edit]

Thanks Attilios, I suppose I shouldn't clog your inbox, but I just wanted to say that that was pretty quick! Cheers, JonRichfield (talk) 13:08, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Attilios, I'm just wondering why you deleted the geography and demography sections and the desciption of the coat of arms. Why is this "outdated stuff"? --Mai-Sachme (talk) 22:00, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Palazzi and palaces[edit]

Hi Attilio. I’m afraid you are suffering from the false friend translation problem. I assure you that most of the buildings which Italians define as palazzi are not not not buildings which English speakers would call palaces. Please read the article palazzo, which will give you some basic info on this. Honestly these new categories are a very bad idea! Cheers, Ian Spackman (talk) 12:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 May 2011[edit]

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Hi Attilios![edit]

Thanks for the hugs! I need some just now....I have been sick for a fortnight and I'm finding it hard to concentrate well enough to actually write anything.

The work by Durer would be termed The Seven Dolorous Mysteries, The Seven Doleful Mysteries, The Seven Sorrowful Mysteries or just The Seven Sorrows or The Seven Dolours of the Virgin Mary. There should be an article on Wikipedia. Polittico = polyptych.

Cheers! Amandajm (talk) 11:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 6 June 2011[edit]

Arrogance and edit summaries[edit]

Yesterday, you seem to have gone on a spree pursuing my edits, here is just one [29][30][31] I cannot be bothered to list them all, but furthermore moving pages and leaving patronising summaries is unaceptable. For a long time owm I have ignored you and your small hornet-like edits here and there; if you wish to follow me picking up my numerous typos,then you are welcome to do so, but please do not leave insulting summaries because, quite frankly: you are not in a position to do so. If you wish to be the only editor hear comenting on Italain matters, then you are going to be sadly dissapointed and have a very long wait indeed. Happy editing! Giacomo Returned 07:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your reversion of one of my facts here [32]. I doubt it is a wonderful reconstruction, but there is a building here claiming to be the rebuilt facade of the demolished palazzo - it certainly looks like it was rebuilt [33]. Giacomo Returned 09:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really understand why you removed the image from the article. The article spend quite a few words discussing the vegetation of the region (which plays an important part on the book and is part of the title in portuguese). Maybe my caption is not accurate: not only the park was created as a tribute to the book, but a large part of the plot happens there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitor 1234 (talkcontribs) 09:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits of Borgo (rione of Rome)[edit]

Hallo Attilios

I reverted all your NPOV edits of the article about Borgo, which I wrote about two years ago. A couple were - according to me - ok, many others unfortunately not, while others are pure vandalism. At the moment I am abroad, so i have no time to discuss them. When I come back, we can discuss them. In the meantime, please don`t touch the article. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 09:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

These belong to the edits that were ok. Others were not. So, please leave my version and we will discuss it when I come back, ok? thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 09:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We will discuss it when I go back home. The article has been reviewed by a fellow englishman, but de gustibus non disputandum est :-) . Thanks for your patience, cheers Alex2006 (talk) 09:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong. "The most beautiful" can be understood as POV. Saint Peter as postcard is not my idea, but it comes from people as Insolera, Benevolo, Vannelli, and so on. As you surely know, they are among the most important italian city planners which dealt with this subject in the last fifty years) . I will bring you the references, of course. I did not cite this sentence, just because everyone which has two eyes can see it. :-) Anyway, on wikipedia, if you want reference about a sentence, usually you use the missing citation template, and don`t cancel the sentence.

Now I will try to explain you why I wrote this article:

1) I am Roman, and baptised in Saint Peter; :-)

2) My mother was born in this rione,baptised in a church which was demolished in 1930, and lived there until 1933;

3) Because of 2) I started to be interested in the history of Borgo since 1975. In the meantime, I collected (and read) all the books and publications about this subject which I could find during these years. I never counted them, but they are many. Due to that, I acquired some knowledge about the subject. :-) After these premises, you are most welcome to open a discussion about this subject. Until that, please don`t touch the article. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 17:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ma come, sei Romano (anche se nato a Gaeta, ma nessuno è perfetto :-))? E perchè non l'hai detto subito? io pensavo di aver a che fare con il solito americano del midwest che non capisce un cacchio... :-)
Riguardo all'articolo, da oggi (ma non adesso, sono in ufficio :-)) ho un po' piu' di tempo per guardare le tue correzioni. Comunque, riguardo l'effetto "cartolina", puoi leggere Benevolo ("Architettura del Rinascimento a Roma", testo standard), Insolera ("Mussolini urbanista", un pamphlet, ma bello), Vannelli ("Economia dell'architettura in Roma fascista", dove è spiegata la genesi dello sventramento). Ripetono tutti lo stesso concetto...
Salutoni dalla Svizzera, Alex2006 (talk) 11:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Non ti preoccupare, anch'io sono un citazionista. :-) Li' non l'ho inserita perchè pensavo fosse una osservazione scontata (almeno a roma lo è), comunque adesso lo faccio. Insolera era un grande, è quello che ha salvato il Centro di Roma da ulteriori scempi nel secondo dopoguerra... Io vivo a Zurigo, città simpatica, ma certo non paragonabile alle nostre (nel bene e nel male). Salutoni, Alex2006 (talk) 13:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting Italian categories[edit]

I'm afraid I have to say I don't think this is a very good idea, unless the category is really large - over 400 articles say. Few foreigners have a really clear idea of where the boundaries of the regions are, & to very many English-speakers they mean nothing at all. The French categories, on Commons and sometimes here, are virtually unusable because they are so specific, split by department. The same with many German ones - the US ones are at least usually too large to leave unsplit. Unless you know exactly where what you are looking for is located, it makes searching very time-consuming. UK categories of this type are mostly only split as a last resort, which I think is the right approach. Johnbod (talk) 17:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Stress[edit]

You haven't raised an actual objection, so I'm reverting your reversions. Abyssal (talk) 07:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of context do you have in mind? Abyssal (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are you still on? I need to be at work in the morning and it's almost 4 AM. Abyssal (talk) 07:47, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Before I go, what sort of context did you want me to add to the paleopathology stuff? I might get a chance to add it Monday. Abyssal (talk) 08:01, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

pantheon[edit]

Concerning your edits of the Santa Cueva de Covadonga, the use of "panteon real" or "royal pantheon" is correct. It is a building serving as the burial place of or containing memorials to the famous dead of a nation (according to webster at least). A good example is the one in Paris. Several royal pantheons are scattered accross Spain: covadonga, leon, escorial, abamia, Poblet monastery,... The more famous is the one in the Escorial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Escorial#Pantheon_of_the_Kings. It is true that the Italians buried king Vittorio Emmanuele in the Roman Pantheon instead of the "Typewriter" complicating everything. ;-))--Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 12:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Churches, Frescos, etc[edit]

Very nice work this weekend Attilios, I'm reading and learning. Ciao/Slainte. Ceoil 11:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Attilios![edit]

As you can see, we are having a little problem with an un-named editor who doesn't like the Lucan Leonardo page. Oh well! I am going to bed! So people on the other side of the world can take over!

You might like to look at my List of Ancient Greek temples which I am in the middle of writing. I am just amazed at how many temples there are in Sicily. Sicily must be an architectural historian's dream! I want to go there and see the Ancient and Medieval and Baroque architecture! Ciao for now! Amandajm (talk) 15:59, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Metric measurements[edit]

I'll do exactly as you say. My books use both, so I have copied them as I found them. That means that all the measurements that came from Sir Banister's beautifully drawn plans are in pounds shillings and pence, whereas the measurements from Boardman are all in metric.

I ran the automatic conversion template over some and it didn't want to work nicely, because or the format (33 x 110 meters) etc. It is very clumsy to have the measurement in feet jammed in behind the metres, so I'll just have to calculate every sing one individually. It was too late to do it last night. BTW, I prefer metres to meters so I'll use that form and if I miss any, our eagle eye will no doubt spot them.

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It's doneAmandajm (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Guess what?[edit]

Alessandro Vezzosi, of the Leonardo museum in Vinci has finally made a statement that he has ruled out the chance of that Lucan portrait being by Leonardo's hand. Great! I found it on Discovery Channel, but he is going to publish a book about the faces of Leonardo. Then we will reference the book instead. He must have been under a lot of pressure over this! Amandajm (talk) 17:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have missed the point! He has finally announced that he is of the opinion that it is NOT by Leonardo. ....The painting isn't in Vezzosi's museum. He has a nice little museum with lots of really excellent models of Leonardo's more practical inventions.
I think he has written this book because he was quoted saying about four different things to the press, and then either changed his mind or they got it wrong.
  • He was quoted by the Times as saying he thought it was by Cristofano dell'Altissimo.
I quoted that in the article and got a message back saying that they got it wrong. Vezzosi did not say it was possibly by dell'Altissimo.
  • He was then quoted as saying that he had ruled out that it was by Leonardo.
He made a subsequent statement that the paper had misquoted him and that e had not ruled out that it was by Leonardo.
  • Now Discovery Channel has published that he has finally made his mind up: It is not by Leonardo.
Which is what we have been saying all along! Amandajm (talk) 01:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Ruled out", Well, I' not quite sure whether it means that someone deleted the idea by "ruling a line through it", (on the written page), or whether its comes from the sporting field where an action in the play or a player is deemed "out" by the rules. Amandajm (talk) 08:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Colloquial language can be difficult. I once went to pay my gas bill and the German migrant who was ahead of me in the queue, was having a problem. He asked why he had been sent a letter informing him that the amount of the bill was unpaid, although he said he had paid it through the mail. The woman at the counter said "Yer check bounced! It's in the red!"

The man said "I beg your pardon? Please explain why I have been sent this disconnection notice!" She said "I told yer all ready! Yer check bounced!" I said "Excuse me Sir, when the gas company presented your cheque, there were insufficient funds in your account for the bank to honour it." The woman said, very frustrated : "That's wot I all ready told im! 'Is check bounced!" Amandajm (talk) 08:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re: your message[edit]

Hi Attilios, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 17:41, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Wikify Discussion Invitation[edit]

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Your answer on my talk page[edit]

Dear Attilios,

Being a semi-retired user, I was looking at my talk page and I just read your comment a few instances ago.

Firstly, may I remind you that language such as "we will not miss you" is not the sort which is considered appropriate for Wikipedia, as one can see if one reads one of the five pillars of this encyclopedia. Of course, no one is perfect, and when I did create articles such as the Royal Palace of Milan, it was because at the time I was more concerned with creating as much information as possible rather than writing good quality articles (which, considering that I have got to know Wikipedia better now, I realise was the wrong mindset). However, to say "we will not miss you" is very much against Wikipedia's spirit of inclusion and community, making one feel shunned and snubbed. As well as that, I don't believe that it is completely true, considering what user:Ian Spackman wrote here. On addition, would you say that I haven't made any good contributions? Culture of Italy, Italian fashion, Milan, Rome, Italy, Italian economic miracle, etc. were either improved, significantly edited or created by me. I have to be honest, Italy and all related articles still need much improvement. Looking at the Italy wikiproject, it seems that there are only 16 Feature-class articles and 1 Featured list, contrasted to 39 Feature-class articles and 5 Featured lists with France, or 74 Feature-class articles and 16 Featured lists with Germany. On addition, it seems that there is a lack of new and fresh information on several articles. For instance, the Italy portal has had the same featured picture and featured article since 2005. I am not complaining about the Italy-related articles, but I believe that many of them still need drastic improvement, and rather than criticising and being generally unpleasant to potentially enthusiastic editors, I would try to encourage as many as possible to help. Of course, however, this does not mean that one shouldn't be constructively critical - without criticism, we will never improve. I learned many helpful things from Wikipedia from constructive criticism, not, however, from destructive criticism.

Referring to the translated articles such as Royal Palace of Milan, I apologise to editors in general for thinking wrongly yet in good faith. However, since they do exist, we should possibly try to make them into good quality articles, like I see you did with il Palazzo Reale di Milano.

Yours,

--Theologiae (talk) 12:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Thank you. Let's try to get as many feauture-class Italy articles as possible. Unfortunately, I am very busy, and thus, I am not often available, but, I am willing to help wherever I can.
Yours,
--Theologiae (talk) 13:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File[edit]

Hi Attilios, I was wondering why you reverted this edit. Lotje ツ (talk) 08:24, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Virgin and Child, in the Santa Maria del Carmine church, Naples

Attilios, as our resident expert on Italian churches, do you have any idea how I might track down a colour reproduction of this fresco. I've searched long and hard and am tearing out whats left of my hair here. Ta. Ceoil 13:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at p 160 here. Am I getting the chruch mixed up. Ceoil 14:04, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Romanesque[edit]

Don't you come here with your smily happy summer-day face on and start picking on my inadequacies! It's half-past midnight in the middle of the winter, where I am! This house is freezing. And the other night my beastly son made me sit up to watch the Harry Potter thing in Trafalgar Square from 1.00 am till breakfast. I haven't recovered yet!

I'll do the captions. .....YAAAAWWWWN! .........Tomorrow!

Tooodle-oo! Amandajm (talk) 14:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Florence[edit]

Dear Attilios,

Noticing that you have made numerous recent edits to this article, I can't help but assent with many of these changes. Florence, looking back upon the article, is messy and prolix. I have written a message on the city's discussion page, and I have suggested a move of some information onto a separate article. I thought you might be interested to have a look, considering it seems that you are interested in the city.

Yours,

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Edit war at Battle of Cortenova[edit]

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Request reason:

Hey! No more need of the block! We have finally reached a consensus on Battle of Cortenuova: as I proposed him (see user talk:Daufer) he added his content to MY more Wiki-formatted version. Please also unblock user:Daufer.

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Per comment below. — Daniel Case (talk) 02:33, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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I count at least 8 reverts in less than 24 hours, totally unacceptable. Note the rule Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Request reason:

OK, I agree and admit that. But if you read my last rationale, the talk and give a check to Battle of Cortenuove page, you'll see that the matter had been finally solved... some one second before you blocked us all. Let me know and thanks for attention (sorry if I repeat the unblock request, but without Wikipedia I'm very bored.

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Eight reverts? That's resolution by pure blunt force trauma. You clearly do not understand that this was 110% inappropriate. While bored, please read WP:EW, WP:BRD, and WP:DR. This is a short 24 hour block that will give you the opportunity to learn techniques to ensure this ridiculous action does not recur. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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very arrogant reply. Thanks very much. If you'll also get bored, maybe you could give a look to WP:Wikilove. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 18:15, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I noted some of your corrections/comments on the link for Lunigiana. Two of them I'd like to metion here. In one you noted that Reggio Emilia is a city not a prvince. It is, of course, both as it is not unusual in Italy for a leading city to have its surrounding territory named after it. Also, there is a note which identifies Lombard as correction for the word Longobard. The latter term is perfectly proper use as it is one of the earliest names used to discribe the Lombards in Italy (it si said to be a reference to these Germanic people who had, it seems relatively) long beards compared, to the naitve inhabitants in the Roman Empire. yours, pietro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.59.190.121 (talk) 03:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Schloss Nymphenburg[edit]

Hi Attilios, I've re-instated info on public transport access to Schloss Nymphenburg which I though was useful and concise. We can discuss on Talk page if you feel strongly. Best wishes Mick gold (talk) 07:17, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you move this article? Have you noticed there is a consensus?! Jɑυмe (xarrades) 01:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm sure this was an good faith move. All the same, I restored the page to the original title in light of recent consensus. In the future, since this would be a controversial move, you should use a move request, detailed at WP:RM. Cheers, --JaGatalk 02:09, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, I apologize. I had forgotten that Catalan is spoken also in the Valencian Community. Once I made the mess, I didn't know how to revert... --'''Attilios''' (talk) 10:43, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • No problem. Thanks much for the note. --JaGatalk 00:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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