User talk:Awtribute/Archive 1

TV history links

Thank you for the links, but I'm afraid I don't think they're suitable for general date pages, and looking at the content, they essentially duplicate existing 'Birth' sections. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 11:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Rylie

Thanks for correcting the dumb mistakes I made in the Rylie article. Anyhow, are you interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Dallas-Fort Worth? WhisperToMe (talk) 17:54, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• You are welcome :) - Since you like geography, you will have a field day with regional metropolitan area-based projects like DFW. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your work on the Farm to Market Roads articles! =D --mboverload@ 20:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

USRD stub drive

Hello. I would like to take the opportunity to inform you of the Stub Removal Drive, a current project being undertaken by WikiProject U.S. Roads. We are attempting to reduce the number of stubs (short, underdeveloped articles like Farm to Market Road 2493) within our project scope by 3000 before this December. Please help us with our goal by expanding such articles when possible, rather than creating new ones. (If you need to create a new article, you can help by expanding it beyond the stub level.) If you would like more information, it's available at WP:USRD#Goals. Thank you. – TMF 23:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Farm to Market Road 752

Hi there. This article can't make up its mind which road it's on about, because the text all says 768 not 752. Can you fix it? Ta, Chris (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

You can draft articles in your userspace and get them perfect before moving them out. Check here for info on how to do this. Chris (talk) 21:36, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to the project!

It's good to see another Texas editor. Most of the people who say they're active or semi-active on the state's highway project seem to have fallen off the planet lately. A few suggestions on improving your articles:

• When citing a road's highway designation file at TxDOT's website, use the {{TxDOT}} template. For instance,

  <ref name="FM 2493">{{TxDOT|FM|2493|accessdate=2010-8-8}}</ref>

  will create the citation as seen in the "References" subsection below. Use I for Interstate, US for U.S. Route, SH for state highway, etc. just like with the {{Jct}} template.

• Use the {{Jct}} template for route termini and intersections in the infobox just like the junction list. This will display the route shield the correct size. If you ever have to hard-code the route shield, it should be 20px for all Texas roads and for two-digit U.S. and Interstate routes. Three-digit U.S. and Interstate routes use 25px ensuring they have the same height:

  

• Build junction tables using {{Jcttop}}, {{Jctint}}, and {{Jctbtm}} templates. This will ensure that county and city locations will show up in your junction lists or state that the route is only in one county or city. A good way to measure (and allow verification) between junctions is using Google Maps which lets you create a map of the route with green balloons at each intersection:

  <ref>{{Google maps|title=Route of FM 170|url=[1]|accessdate=2010-1-9}}</ref> See reference below.

  When you've made the junction map at Google Maps, just zoom out until the whole route is displayed and click on the "Link" button above the map on the right to get the url. You can put that url using {{Google maps}} in the "length_ref" parameter in {{Jcttop}}. Example: FM 170

• To avoid stub status, all road articles should have a "History" section, a "Route description" section, and a "Major intersections" section which has your junction list. If you are writing about a route in Delta County and the TxDOT highway designation file says the route number was assigned to a former road in Ector County back in the 1950s, say so and cite it in the history section. If the road you are writing about was once much shorter and was lengthened over the years including incorporating former routes, add that too with citations to the designation files of the former routes. If TxDOT hasn't recycled the designation of the former route, you can also create a redirect from the road name of the former route to the history section of the article you are editing. If you have further information about the road from an online source or an offline newspaper or source in a library, use the {{Citation}} or {{Cite web}} templates to make sure your reference includes all relevant fields (author, publisher, page number, etc.) and displays consistently with other Wikipedia citations. If your road is very old, there are some historic maps available.

• For the "Route description" and "Major intersections" sections, try to avoid using UT-Austin's county map collection because they're outdated. TxDOT's newest online maps are found here although even they are dated 2006 and don't have more recent roads. The {{Cite map}} template is useful for those. A good source for describing physical landforms the road encounters can be found through the U.S. Geological Survey's online topographic maps.

• After you have created a new road article, create redirect pages at possible alternative names the route may have. These can be found on the state highway project's Completion list.

• Finally, monitor the discussions going on at the U.S. project's talk page and the state project's talk page and feel free to offer your views.

Happy editing!

References

Fortguy (talk) 20:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Farm to Market Road 752

I have nominated Farm to Market Road 752, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Farm to Market Road 752. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Shadowjams (talk) 09:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see my comments in reply to your posting at WT:TXSH. Imzadi 1979 → 10:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Copying from my talk page:

My apologies if I stepped on any Wiki-toes, but as this is my first article deletion possibility, I guess I'm not as familiar with the protocol involved as the others are. Awtribute (talk) 10:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries, just stay calm. Something to remember about Wikipedia, except in a few cases, articles can't be deleted for 7 days after they're tagged for deletion. If someone uses a CSD or "speedy deletion tag", you can tag it with {{hangon}} and start a discussion on the talk page. That stalls the "speedy". If they PROD (proposed deletion), you can simply contest that by removing the PROD tag with a reason for your edit summary. If they sent it to AfD, just comment at the discussion with a clear argument for inclusion. If someone else has given the same reasons, you can say "Keep per X and also for A and B reasons." (It's always best to have another reason or statement to go with a "per nom/per X" type comment.) Imzadi 1979 → 10:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

P.S. You have 7 days to work on the specifically nominated article before the AfD can close, unless there is a WP:SNOW closure. If you can find some information on it that makes it unique, historic, something other than a boring road in the middle of nowhere, that would help establish notability. Give us a reason beyond "TxDOT spends money to maintain it." Something else to consider is that this AfD could close, not as a delete or a keep, but as a merge. In that event, this article gets merged into a list or another article. Since the concern was raised at how many articles are being created, might I suggest that you create them as a list first. Former Michigan spur routes is something like I have in mind here. Each highway has it's paragraph (or two) and it's smaller infobox. M-160 (Michigan highway) actually redirects into the proper section of the list. At some point, when I have the time, I can research all of them better and add more. If the entry gets long enough, split it out as its own article. I'd make each highway a section in the list. Then when they start to get expanded, keep the future RD/H/etc sections in separate paragraphs. Once long enough, move the content out to a separate article. For instance, List of Michigan County-Designated Highways would be the home for F-41 (Michigan county highway), but it's long enough that it has its own article now.

One last suggestion. WP:USRD is working on a drive to reduce the number of articles assessed at Stub-Class. To be rated a Start-Class article, it needs to have decent starts for two of the following three sections: Route description, History, junction list. To be rated at C-Class, the article needs the start of all three, and for B-Class, it needs substantially complete sections. You've been creating new articles, and please don't let me leave you with an impression that creating them is a bad thing. The negative side though is when new articles are created as stubs, and left while other new articles are created. Of the over 12,000+ articles we have, nearly 6,000 of them were Stub-Class at the start of this year. We'd like to roughly halve that number. New stubs add to the pile to expand, merge or even delete as needed. Imzadi 1979 → 12:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)