User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 4

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Senior Editor II

Your signature

Hey Cyberpower, I just want to let you know that your signature has an extra HTML element in it. You have two font color elements for the date, like this:

 02:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the extra element from your signature in that talk page post. This is just a friendly reminder. -- Luke (Talk) 02:23, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

That should fix it. Let me know if anything else is wrong. :)—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 517,774,837) 02:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

It looks like everything is fine, thanks for fixing it. -- Luke (Talk) 02:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I do wonder about your signature generally Cyberpower. Signatures are meant to identify you in discussions, but also tell editors a lot about you. In general, the more fancy the signature, the more time that has been spent on it, and therefore the less time has been spent on doing other useful stuff on wikipedia. Even if not true in your case, I can guarantee that I won't be the only editor thinking in this line of thought. What's more, the mix of red and green is not great for accessibility (Colour blindness). Overall, I would suggest that the signature is bold and unfriendly. Not sure if it's what you're after. If you do think about changing it, I'd recommend going for an "understated" signature, remember it gets seen an awful lot! Worm^TT · (talk) 15:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm following. The font and style of the signature should represent that I am into technology and complicated codes. This signature represents that.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 517,874,246) 16:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

It's all a matter of opinion, and as long as you're within WP:SIG (which I believe you are), it's your choice. Having said that, I work with technology and am currently writing code on my other monitor. I will tell you now that complicated code is a Bad Thing. Bad bad bad thing. It stops other developers from using it, and that's the point of code, the simplest way to do a complicated thing. No one within my department would use a signature like that to show they were interested in technology and complicated code. Instead they would aim for something that looks really easy and normal, but actually is very elegant and clever. Worm^TT · (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

If you'll allow me an opinion, Cyberpower, I think that there's no real need to include the number of Wikipedia edits in your signature (I'm assuming you have it substituted). A simpler "contributions" link would be appreciated by many, I think. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 16:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I like the edit count in my signature which is why I added it. At Worm TT, I agree completely with you. Being a programmer out of hobby, it is always best to choose the least complicated way but sometimes it's not possible to be simple and things end up getting complicated. Microsoft is a good example of something like that. What I meant to say is that taking a complicated expression and it equating it down to a single answer is something I like to do a lot. I am studying to become an electrical engineer and complex mathematical computations is something I do best which is what I meant from what I said before.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 517,880,786) 17:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your support at my RfA. Be among the first to see my L-plate!

Talking of signature colours, I'm mightily confused by your explanation page for your own, and think that newbies would be even more so, because (i) it doesn't cover past colours, like that barely visible pink and yellow which attracted comment at my RfA, and (ii) it seems to imply that your sig will change dynamically according to the time that it is read, when I think the colours are fixed according to your status at the time that you left each past message. Please consider clarifying it further! – Fayenatic L (talk) 13:48, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The signature you was was my Valentines Day signature. It's pink. The colors in the paranthesis are what the key is referring to. Since I am not allowed to transclude, I substitute. You can see my current status at the time I write. When you go to my page, you see my live status on the top of this page.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 517,858,607) 14:45, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, if you're content that the explanation is clear enough for newbies, press on with the good work! BTW, I also find it disorientating that the editing preview on this page is centred. Thanks for replying, – Fayenatic L (talk) 15:09, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

That's wierd. For a while now, I have been trying to figure out what your comment means and now I realize what you are talking about. I'll try to find the issue. I don't know whaty is going on there.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 517,938,045) 22:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I randomly placed a </center> tag at the end of my edit notice and that seems to have fixed it.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 517,938,838) 22:28, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Agreed! :-) – Fayenatic L (talk) 08:21, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Toolserver

Is there somewhere that you can find a list of all the different tools you can use to get reports like the edit counter or the tool to check number of hits a page receives.Edinburgh Wanderer 20:06, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not that experienced with toolserver. Ask User:28bytes, User:Anomie, User:TParis or any toolserver operator. They may give you a better answer. For now, I'm just lying in bed recovering from my sickness I got yesterday afternoon.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,136,392) 21:10, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

if you mean real sickness then i hope you feel better if you mean about above wouldn't take it personally. Edinburgh Wanderer 21:32, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Real. :(—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,141,127) 21:35, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Interaction Ban proposal

I've reopened it. Please don't close it once there are follow up comments as I'll like it to be formal due to the diffs provided which have no more space for good faith. --lTopGunl (talk) 01:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Please note that almost everything you contributed at ANI worked against you. Please also note that if you make the formal ban to the community and it gets approved that any interactions initiated with the other party can result in a block from both parties and in your case, the block would be at least 1 week.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,374,613) 01:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. I'll not reply to any interactions now... too much of him. But this has to be done to keep him off as well, since he evidently does not stay by his word. Thanks. --lTopGunl (talk) 01:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Rollback

I've had my ass handed to me over and over about this, so I will tell you this now. Rollback is only meant for vandalism, or doing several reverts in succession and then explaining it to the person you rolled back. My edits to List of Pokémon: Black & White: Rival Destinies episodes did not constitute vandalsim.—Ryulong (竜龙) 21:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I know that. That was an accidental click and wanted to revert but you already beat me to it.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,142,811) 21:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Wow, yes ... rollback is for WP:VAND only - if you use it somewhere else, it can and will be quickly taken away :-) Be careful, please! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

When working from my phone, the rollback link is directly underneath diff and I misclicked. As stated, I usually revert myself with a summary like, misclicked, or something.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,143,495) 21:48, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, the screencap should not be so wide. Fair use needs to be low resolution. The 250px width as suggested by Template:Infobox television season is good enough. Wikipedia is not meant to be mobile friendly anyway.—Ryulong (竜龙) 01:06, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I see that you are making it the full size of the file. The file is way too big. It should be shrunk down even more. I now realize 270px is fine, but the 300 pixels is not.—Ryulong (竜龙) 01:09, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

When uploading the new and shrinking down makes the logo grainy. I reverted the image to my version and left the size on the article. I think this looks better now. What do you think?—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,178,134) 01:19, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I also wasn't referring my phone to the image quality but to the fact it makes it easier to accidentally activate Rollback on it.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,178,263) 01:20, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

If you use Twinkle, you might prefer to have the basic rollback link hidden so you don't do it accidentally. It doesn't offer anything that Twinkle doesn't, and Twinkle additionally lets you include an edit summary. For that reason, I hide the basic rollback link with .mw-rollback-link {display:none !important;} in my user css. That might suit you too. Begoon ^talk 04:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Images

Google has a drag and drop image search feature. I just took the image and tried to find a legit website that hosted it at that same size. The poster isn't going to stay long, anyway because it's not the Keldeo version.—Ryulong (竜龙) 23:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

What do you know. I just learned something. Anyways, as you probably noticed, I reduced the image size to ensure it falls under fair use. I reduced it to the size as shown in the article. BTW, I changed the border on the edit notice if that makes you feel better.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,558,789) 23:44, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hello User:Cyberpower678, thanks for taking care of reverting the mass rollback! Since your edits helped deliver the Ichthus newsletter, here's a barnstar!

		The Christianity Barnstar
		Thanks for helping out with the delivery of Ichthus! With regards, Anupam^Talk 02:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

By looking at the history of EdwardsBot, it appears that a significant part of the alphabet was skipped. How do we address that? I look forward to your response. With regards, Anupam^Talk 02:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

A bot continues to operate even during a block. It was processing every user to be delivered tried to edit and went on to the next user. Since I don't know how EdwardsBot works, I would have it run through the process again and try to have it focus on the range it missed.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,590,290) 03:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear User:Cyberpower678, thanks for your reply. Would you be willing to do that? If not, I can contact another administrator. Let me know! With regards, Anupam^Talk 03:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I am not the operator of the bot nor do I have access to it. You would need to contact the bot's owner and ask them if they are able to manually have EdwardsBot run again to cover the missing people. If they can do that, be sure you give them the last name it delivered to before the block and the first name it delivered to after the block.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,591,657) 03:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear User:Cyberpower678, thanks for your kind reply. I will notify User:Lionelt, who initiated the process. I hope you liked the barnstar! With regards, Anupam^Talk 03:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thank you.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,592,719) 03:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for restoring my user talk page. It's not necessary, I'm happy to do it myself, but it was a good thing on this occasion I think, and I appreciate your taking the trouble. I have asked those who chose to remove the post in question, with no and little explanation and in clear violation of my polite request at the top of the page, to explain themselves, politely and constructively I hope! Andrewa (talk) 06:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank your kind words. Other than overloading my browser, it was no trouble at all.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,787,792) 03:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I saw it was your birthday

Happy Birthday!

Have a very happy birthday on your special day!
Best wishes, Gilderien Talk|Contribs (16:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC))

Thank you.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,878,430) 16:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

And have a beer, seeing as you're 18. Gilderien Talk|Contribs 16:18, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Better save this for tonight.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 518,878,430) 16:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Your user page

Hi! I just wanted to say that I think it's awesome that your user page will change automatically if it's Halloween or Christmas or something. Nice job. Liam98 7 14:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks but because of the complaints I have been getting, I have disabled the talk page layout and only have my signature change through out the seasons.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 519,253,709) 14:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Complaints? Why? Liam98 7 11:58, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

People were Complaining that my page was illegible and hard to read and that it was becoming disruptive.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 519,438,198) 12:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Ryulong

Man, don't worry about Ryulong's attitude. It seems to be he talks like that to everyone.Bloope (talk) 20:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I know Ryulong very well. He is the first person I associated with ever since I made this account. He has attitude issues towards people he has disagreements with but if you are on his good side, which I am hoping I am, he is very nice to people. Ryulong and I get along just fine.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 519,717,032) 20:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I try not to asociate with him because It seems that I have gotten on his bad side. Bloope (talk) 21:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

P.S. your "offline" banner (how did you do that) is still up, yet it appears that you are online.Bloope (talk) 21:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, you continuously spamming everyone on where to illegally obtain videos is not constructive to Wikipedia, violates WP:NOTASOCIALNETWORK, and will get on everybody's nerves especially if you encounter them for time and start off as you did with Ryulong.

BTW, there are templates for that. Mine is a little more sophisticated since they are semi-automated and no I am still considering myself offline. I only do a quick scan of my watchlist for reponses I am looking for and changes to the articles I edit. I also respond almost immediately to new messages left for me.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 519,720,219) 21:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

UAA Bot

Hello Cyberpower678, one of my watchlist picked up on this diff. It looks to me like your trying to create a UAA Bot, only problem is, I was asked by X! several months ago for someone to take on the task. I have taken it on, and recoded it, and it's been up for months. It may not be perfect, but it's getting there. See my bots userpage for more info. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 22:41, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

My bot won't be operating because the community doesn't believe I can't manage the complete replacement. I feel directly insulted and hereby am leaving Wikipedia for a while.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 520,302,292) 22:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Break

I really hope you will reconsider and return. It may of seemed harsh but they felt the bot wasn't ready and had been running against regs. Take a break come back and work on it. If its fully tested and ok I'm sure it will pass next time. People with your talents are needed.Edinburgh Wanderer 00:42, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow, another good editor gone, We seem to be losing a lot of good editors all at once here. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 01:05, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

The bots done and ready to launch. They felt I couldn't handle the bot which is ridiculous. I thought I could contribute in a major way to Wikipedia and I devote my precious time into developing the bot, time I could've used for studying. It's a terrible feeling when you devote so much time into developing something on your own time just to have it shot down by everyone because I made a few mistakes on my FIRST BRFA. It makes me feel like I did this all for nothing. Now Cyberbot I can sit around and collect dust. On the other hand, as long as my signature isn't grey, I'm not totally gone and I may come back.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 520,328,359) 01:39, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I understand and I had the same experience lately and now I only do a discussion edit or 2 every couple days at most and even then only as an IP. After several years and 320, 000 edits I got punched in the gut and pushed out because a few folks don't like me or WikiProject United States. Some will argue otherwise and say I am just a conspiracy theorist but that's what it boils down too. Now my bots dead and most likely WikiProject United States and a whole bunch of other WikiProjects and things will go back to a defunct state.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that although I do agree with the BAG folks that the bot had some problems and you probably should have done some more checks before submitting it to BRFA I thought that the BRFA itself was handled poorly. Especially in context to others I have seen as well as the one I presented. Frankly, I think its partially my fault because after the perceived problems with my bot (the bot was good but I didn't cleanse the list of articles well enough before I gave it to the bot) they have been a little gun shy so I apologize you had to feel the wrath from that. I hope you don't stop editing over all that though. It would be a shame. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 09:25, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. It's possible that my judgement is clouded from my emotions right now, so editing is not an option for me. Software isn't flawless when you run it the first time. When I ran it, it accidentally logged into SoxBot. The never even gave me a chance to trial the bot to see how it operates and at least have it approved to take over a task in the future. No doubt there will be those bots that will go out of service that had a task SoxBot used to do.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 520,395,633) 11:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Believe me I know that feeling all too well. I edit less and less every day and soon I will probably stop altogether. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 22:14, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually I decided to stay. Leaving Wikipedia because of something like this is a bit of an overreaction. I will return to regular editing next week. I have come to realize that although the BRFA was a bust because of mistakes on my part, it doesn't necessarily mean that the bot won't ever run. It's only a matter of time when my bot will be needed. In the meantime, I constructing a new bot that I believe will help out Wikipedia, and come to think of it the intention of this bot is to help out at BRFAs. I had this one planned for a while on how it's supposed to function. I also have another simple bot in mind which is not likely to be approved but worth a shot trying. There's plenty to do here. I've already got Cyberbot's II and III registered on Wikipedia.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 520,695,399) 22:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. With all the editors that have left lately the place will need all the help it can get. Maybe I'll start editing some day too but we'll see. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 23:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Request IP Block Exempt

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Cyberpower678 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm not sure if this is the right template for this but I would like to request IP block exempt. Today I was following an WP:AN discussion that I was participating in and it appears my school IP got blocked for 1 month and it caused issues for me as I was having difficulty editing.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,289,610) 01:35, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

None of the IP addresses you've edited from recently are blocked, and you appear to have no shortage of unblocked IPs from which to edit. IPBE is generally given only when no other option exists. Also, most school IPs are soft-blocked, which should permit editing from logged-in users. If this is not the case, you can post an unblock request from your school (while logged in or out) and a checkuser can look into softening the block. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Thank you for your time though.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,294,484) 02:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Editor review/Cyberpower678

Hello Cyberpower678, I have left feedback on your editor review. I hope the feedback helps you. If you have any questions or comment, please feel free to respond. Best, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 18:01, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I left a response. Thanks for your feedback.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,578,574) 18:13, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Reviewer right

Hello Cyberpower678, i wanted to know that how did you earn the reviewer right as the Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Reviewer page is currently inactive for many months now. I can check from the user rights log that you had been granted the right on 17 February, 2012. I am an already qualified user for this right and also already have rollback and file mover rights. Your help will be greatly appreciated :) Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 18:13, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I got it as a gift so to say. Not that I'm going to abuse it or anything. What is it you need help with?—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,578,865) 18:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

As i am a trusted user, i could also get the reviewer rights from the same administrator, and it would be of great help to me and the community. Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 18:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Due to a recent discussion following the addition of my right, this administrator has promised not to do it anymore.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,580,111) 18:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Then how am i going to get the right ? This is unfair. TheGeneralUser (talk) 18:28, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

It's unnecessary. This right does nothing.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,580,796) 18:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

It does not do anything right now, but the pending changes can be reinstated sometime in the future. And as already more than 5000 people have it, i am eligible too. TheGeneralUser (talk) 18:34, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't look like it's going to happen. The pending changes protections had too many flaws and issues that caused confusion and so forth.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,582,169) 18:39, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

As a neutral comment, obtaining the reviewer right could be seen as hat collecting, under WP:HATSHOP.--Gilderien Talk|Contribs 18:54, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

That too was discussed and I am not hat collecting. I'm not after user rights.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,584,998) 18:58, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I believe Gilderien was referring to TheGeneralUser, and I happen to agree with him that TGU pestering you over this is because he's hat collecting. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 19:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Oops. Sorry Gilderien.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,585,751) 19:03, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Just to note, i am not hat collecting rights here. I have earned all the rights which i currently have, whether it be rollback for anti-vandalism work and file mover for maintaining the file namespace. People need to assume good faith before pointing out such allegations. Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

If you are actively going around trying to get these even a right that has no use to anyone then it could very easily be seen as hat collecting. I actually thought the pending changes could of been a good thing. I believe there were a lot of problems but these could of been sorted. It was kind of dead from the beginning though and there really is no chance it will come back not in its current form there were just to many people against it. So its a useless right. Edinburgh Wanderer 19:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

It's okay. :-) I was not actually refering to either Cyberpower or TGU, but to the fact that there are several rights, including reviewer and, I believe, researcher, of which the use has been discontinued and requesting such rights could be seen as hat collecting. --Gilderien Talk|Contribs 19:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I had only first asked Cyberpower678 about a general query on this. There was really no need to make an issue out of this and point out against a trustful an eligible editor. Many people have them and if the right were to be removed, it would have been removed from all the users who have it. Sorry to say, but never expected this. TheGeneralUser (talk) 19:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Note that I haven't requested reviewer right, even though I would probably have been granted it on request. Oh, and Cyberpower? See this. Maybe all you need to be an admin is submit enough RfAs and you will be sysopped "so that everyone can get back to building the encyclopaedia". :) --Gilderien Talk|Contribs 08:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Hahahaha. Not hat collecting huh? That's a good idea Gilderien. :D In all seriousness though, I have no intention of submitting myself for any RfA now or anytime in the future. Not as long as I feel that the community doesn't trust me with the tools and right now that feeling is pretty strong. My goal to become an admin is not as strong as it was before my block. The block taught me that I still have lots to learn before I'm ready to be one. My main focus is becoming a better editor and help to improve Wikipedia.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,927,951) 12:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't know what your block was for, but 6-9 months of good work and you've got my vote :-) --Gilderien Talk|Contribs 13:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Comments

[1]... it was not an attack. Please don't remove other users' comments. No worries if it was a mistake. --lTopGunl (talk) 23:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what happened, but I did not try to delete it. Perhaps when I saved changes, it overwrote yours.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,833,402) 00:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah.. editconflict... I thought something was wrong with my cache. lol. --lTopGunl (talk) 00:07, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

But that doesn't explain why I'm not getting an edit conflict message.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,835,035) 00:10, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I purged the page, hope it does now. Never happened with me. --lTopGunl (talk) 00:23, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Hang in there. You are doing a great job and will be a credit to the project. Don't let it get you down. Edinburgh Wanderer 00:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I could use that now.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,035,113) 00:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Criticism

You know what, I've just got to say this. You know how I felt when you were pinging me every single day for two solid weeks about fixing those links for X!'s tools on my toolserver account, threatening to stand up your own to compete with what I had working, rubbing in my face that you were bringing cyberbot online, and telling everyone who mentioned the tools that you were working on your own because I was taking too long? Don't you think I felt harassed? I didn't whine one bit until now. I don't hold it against you, I just want to point it out to demonstrate how I behaved when you were the harasser. Now you've been given constructive criticism on your signature, you lied about how many times it was brought up, you ignored the concerns at first, and now you're throwing out 'I feel harassed' which is exactly what you did when you tried to bring Cyberbot online and ignored the concerns then. I tried to warn you that other bots had picked up some of the tasks, I told you TPBot was picking up others. I suggested you figure out what was left for Cyberbot. Others warned you to be sure you read all of the source code and be careful in your statements about the bot. You ignored them and then made misstatements about the bots language and your familiarity with it when you should've been up front and receptive. The reason you feel harassed is because you ignore people to the point that they have to drive the point home and then you don't get it until you're already stressed out. Try being more receptive up front and less confrontational. Quit trying to stir the pot like you did at the WP:BN when you threatened to do the 'Crats job closing an RFA for them because you felt they were being too slow. We don't all work on Cyberpower's time schedule and we certainly don't take threats well. And you certainly don't take criticism well. So man up, calm down, be receptive. I don't know how old you are, I get the impression you are young, but you need to realize that although Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, this is an adult community you are taking part in. I feel like you are new to Wikipedia and you want to make a name for yourself as a hard working responsible Wikipedian. Taking over X!'s tools, standing up a bot to do all of Soxbot's tasks, closing RFAs, closing ANI and AN threads, and participating at WT:RFA would all make your name well known. And to be honest, the attempts are working. But you're name is picking up this stigma because you are going about it all wrong. You need to ease into these things. Most of those 'Crats have been doing it for years. They are entrusted to close RFAs. Especially an RFA between 60%-80% support because those could reasonably go either way. Just focus on editing and tasks suited for learning before trying to take on gargantuan tasks. This X! tool and TPBot thing was a big tasks for me, and I'm only trying to swallow that. You're in the middle of swallowing Wikipedia as a whole, a bot, toolserver tools, 'crat work, ect ect and you're going to choke. You'll be less stressed if you take smaller bites. Listen, there are a lot of folks out there who have been around for years who I've never heard of. They do good work, have hundreds of thousands of edits and I've never heard of them. There are also new folks whom everyone knows as trouble makers (see [[WP:AN thread on a specific one). Just take your time and your name will stand out eventually. You don't need flashy colors on your signature to do it either. Just give it time. </rant>--v/r - T P 12:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)x3 If you put it that way, I guess you are right. I'm sorry if you felt harassed by it and certainly would've stopped had I known. No, was I was not complaining that you are too slow, I was merely being a little humorous. When undertaking the project, I felt that I would be able to help the project by completely replacing SoxBot. I guess when I felt my project being threatened, I became defensive, which is a bad habit of mine. I took the criticism, and decided to change my signature and stated that on the page, it was only until after I stated that I was working on a change, after consistent bombardment of further comments that I considered it harassing. I have no intentions to be disruptive, or drag half of Wikipedia into this issue. I have every intention to be civil, helpful, and adultlike, which is why I requested WormTT's adoption to help me in this matter. Something that will help you to understand me better is that I am autistic, which if things aren't done in a timely manner, I tend to freak out. I also get defensive if I feel threatened. This is something I tried to keep a secret as to not give the wrong impression. I'm always working on this deficit of mine but it's a tough struggle. Anyway's yes you are right in a way and I am right in a way and yes I am a young editor but I am no minor. Maybe I should take a longer Wikibreak. :(—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,116,492) 13:15, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

That's cool and I can understand all of that. I have an autistic adult sister-in-law and an austistic teenager step-brother and they have less success at the social interaction than you do. I also have an old high school friend who had autism and now that you say you have it, a lot of memories of my arguments with him are coming back (he liked Linux and I preferred Windows server). No one thinks you are a bad faith editor or trying to cause trouble, I think you just need to take smaller bites is all. Worm's mentorship/adoption will definitely help you, but I think you should also write a personal note and stick it on your monitor to remind you not to jump head first off the diving board. You can take big tasks, but try just one at a time. Right now you have about ~5500 edits so you're still learning Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Try focusing on that for awhile instead of administrative, crat, and bot tasks. Alright, good talk, I've got to get back to work. I can't just hang out here all day.--v/r - T P 13:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I appreciate your response but, based on others' comments and your very long essay, it appears I don't have what it takes to be a true Wikipedian. I am causing more issues than I am being of help, and unless I get a mentor I will be removing myself from within the next 24 hours.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,118,244) 13:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

You see, that's kind of what I mean. There isn't a reason to say "I'm going to be leaving" because what you're doing is putting a chilling effect on the conversation. If you and I were talking about an article's content and you said "If it isn't my way, I'm leaving Wikipedia" then how do you think that makes me feel and do you think that is good for the article? It stifles discussion and criticism. If you want to leave, that's fine you have the right to do it. But saying "I will be leaving within 24 hours" is uncalled for and puts an unnecessary weight on someone else. It gives others an obligation to say "Please don't go" and "You do great work" and saves the editor threatening to leave from the constructive criticism they desperately need to be effective. See Wikipedia:DIVA. I suggest you try the mentoring with Worm That Turned.--v/r - T P 13:43, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

No. I am saying that if I don't get mentor, I will be leaving because it is apparent I can't edit constructively without one. I am more of a disruption, which would warrant a block, than II should be. I couldn't care about the comments urging me to stay because if I do contribute to articles, that fact that I am disruptive is what's deterring me. I would stay if I can get a mentor to help me be less disruptive. I have no intentions of leaving but I have no intentions of staying based on my current behavior here.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,120,636) 13:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Just jumping in here to mention that I'm too busy to mentor Cyberpower at the moment - but I did give him a commitment to in the future. I'm not sure that I'd be the best mentor for him in in any case, because I'm not available enough, but I'm certainly willing to help out. Cyberpower, I don't see anything that says you can't edit constructively, but you're working in areas which need a more delicate touch, human interaction. Have you had a go at writing an article? It can be quite enjoyable. Worm^TT · (talk) 13:52, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean with a delicate touch? How could I handle that differently?—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,121,972) 13:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Who would you recommend if you can't work your magic?—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,122,178) 13:55, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

A delicate touch as in some places request very specific words to be used and a very specific tone to be set by those words. There are folks who are particularly apt at matching the exact right tone and language for the exact right situation. In any case, it's too bad Worm can't mentor you, he is a good one, but I'll look for one for you if you'd like. I'll also back off after this, I've got my point across so I don't think there is a need to say more.--v/r - T P 14:03, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

You can go ahead and find a mentor for me if you'd like. I'm sticking with Worm and will just wait it out.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,123,851) 14:06, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, whoaaaaa! Slow down. Whilst I've been writing this message, you've made about 400 edits - take a deep breath. In fact, try alternate nostril breathing, hold your finger over your right nostril, breath in for 6 seconds, hold for 6 seconds, then breathe out for 6 seconds. Swap to your left nostril then right and so on... just until your feeling a little more calm. Now, as for your question, there's a heck of a lot of editors I might recommend, but I'm not sure how busy they are. You could look through the list of Adopters. If you recognise a name, why don't you ask them? I'm always willing to help out as an alternative, or if you can wait then that'd be great. Regarding the delicate touch, I can offer some advice on that in the future, I'll have to look through your contributions and come up with some examples though, so you might have to have a little patience. Worm^TT · (talk) 14:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

There's only 1 editor I know well there and that's you and you're listed as currently adopting by the way. I see some familiar faces but I don't know them well enough.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,129,625) 14:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I know I am, because I don't spend my time changing my activity levels all over the place. If someone asks, then I'll tell them

. You say you've seen some familiar faces, any in particular? The idea is that you'll get to know them as part of the mentorship. Worm^TT · (talk) 14:52, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hersfold, Keifer.Wolfowitz, other people I've seen around but I really don't know them.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,131,471) 14:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Interesting choices... one's inactive and the other isn't there. :P Worm^TT · (talk) 15:10, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I guess I'll just wait until you're ready to mentor me.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,150,210) 17:03, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I may have come up with an alternative. I don't know if you have heard of User:Steven Zhang, but he's an excellent editor, with lots of knowledge and he's also someone who helps out a lot with new users. I think he may be a good match for you. Bearing in mind I'm unlikely to have the time to help you out this month, or possibly next, he might be a much more timely option. You're of course welcome to have me as a sub-mentor/helpful friend if you do go down that route. Worm^TT · (talk) 09:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you but I don't even know this user and the fact he was desyssoped isn't encouraging.

I'm willing to mentor you if you would like. (I do a lot of behind-the-scenes gnoming work, but have also created a featured article.) Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I think Reaper Eternal would be a good fit too. Another excellent editor, lots of knowledge in the same kind of work you like.--v/r - T P 17:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I've seen you around and will accept your mentorship. You like to work in places I do.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,340,590) 17:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

OK! I will create User:Reaper Eternal/Mentoring/Cyberpower678 in a little bit. Good luck! Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Purplebackpack89

Just so you know, it is generally bad practice to close a discussion that you were involved in. As you !voted in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Purplebackpack89, closing the discussion really wasn't appropriate. Yes, it was very unlikely to succeed, but because you were involved you should have left it to an uninvolved user. Best, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 01:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I will remember that for next time.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,421,868) 01:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I also would like to point you to Deskana's wise words in the section you already replied to on WT:RFA, and ask you to stop closing RfAs and leave it to the people whose job is to do so, the 'crats. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 03:34, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I came here to say the same thing. I thought WJBscribe, one of our most experienced 'crats, was pretty clear a few days ago at WT:RFA, "Do not WP:SNOW/WP:NOTNOW close RfAs that you have opposed. Ever. No exceptions." To put it bluntly, the past few RfA closures that I've seen from you have been poor and I do not believe you have the necessary experience or tact that is required to close RfAs. Please stop closing them until someone, such as your mentor, feels that you are ready to. Jenks24 (talk) 04:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
If that's the case, I'll stop altogether then. I thought that apparent failures wouldn't receive when I close them but guess not.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,471,603) 09:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate it. Jenks24 (talk) 12:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the heads up on my RfA, sorry if I seemed mad about the rejection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bens dream (talk • contribs) 16:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

No Problem.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 16:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Signature

Can you please change your signature to be less, well, bombastic? It's highly distracting for anyone trying to read a threaded discussion you've participated. Thanks in advance, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Bombastic? Please explain. My signature complies completely with WP:SIG.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,928,760) 13:03, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not worried about the policy here, unless you want to get into the 'spirit' of policies. The combination of colors with the different fonts along with the sheer length of the whole thing is extremely distracting. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 14:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

There are worse sigs out there than Cyberpower's and as discussed before meets WP:SIG. I fail to see how its distracting or how it would affect you reading a discussion. The boxes on yours draws my eye as much as the colours on his.Edinburgh Wanderer 15:43, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Everybody has their own unique signature and as Edinburgh pointed out, you are the only one that has complained about this. I will consider it if I get more complaints but my userspace and settings is something I reluctantly change based on one complaint.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,963,446) 17:03, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually, your signature violates SIG in that it is longer than 255 characters of HTML (I count 324 with the date and 301 without). Also, in my edit screen, it takes up three full lines of HTML. See WP:SIG#Length. My point here is that it's a lot less disruptive to choose neutral colors and have "contribs" instead of "WP Edits: 521,963,446". And please don't think I'm trying to be mean here, I've gone through the same thing. Previous signatures of mine have included:

the_ed17^(T)(P)(F)(W)
—Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed}

Both of those garnered comments from administrators, which I've taken to heart over the years. If you'd like, see User:The_ed17/Archives/1#Your_signature for an interesting discussion on the first bulleted sig above. Side point: jeez, that's from 2006, I feel old. My current signature is essentially stolen from User:Kirill Lokshin and has been the same since 2010. Regards, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Have to say the first one looks good. Wish i was as inventive.Edinburgh Wanderer 19:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)It does violate it lengthwise however you miscounted. I did some minor adjustments and now its only 242 characters long.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,987,217) 19:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Edinburgh, it's actually terrible. If you click the discussion archive link, you will see why.

Cyberpower, you're now down to 314 characters, counting spaces and the date (counting with Microsoft Word). You're adding formatting to the date for some reason, which isn't helping here, and there's still the issue of bright red, capital letter TALK and WP Edits. It also still takes up two and a half lines of HTML, or two full lines with no date formatting. As such, I'm afraid it's still over the limit. A good test is to see if it fits in the signature entry line under "my preferences". Thanks, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Exactly how are you counting this? The timestamp is not included in the 255 limit. What are counting, the template?—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,988,942) 19:43, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh I'm not saying it meets policies or anything like that. Im just saying i like the look of it.Edinburgh Wanderer 19:45, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

The timestamp certainly counts when you add  to it every time. Edinburgh- ah, gotcha. I think I had a similar one where it alternated super and subscript letters. I was a very different person then, desperate for social networking. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Timestamps don't belong to signatures. They don't count.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,990,228) 19:50, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Let's not get defensive. All I'm asking is for you to reduce the heavy amount of formatting in your signature, of which the timestamp is a part (note where WP:Timestamp redirects to, for example). Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:53, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

It may redirect there but nowhere in the policy does it say that timestamps are a part of it.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,991,572) 19:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

But even without the timestamp and just including all the formatting, —[[User:Cyberpower678|cyberpower]] ([[User talk:Cyberpower678|Chat]])([[Special:Contributions/Cyberpower678|WP Edits: 521,990,228]]) it is 289 characters. 65.40.155.250 (talk) 20:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

—[[User:Cyberpower678|cyberpower]] ([[User talk:Cyberpower678|Chat]])([[Special:Contributions/Cyberpower678|WP Edits: 521,990,228]]) is what is developed from my signature. The other part directly modifies the timestamp. It's roughly 240 to 250 characters.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,993,087) 20:05, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well gee, must I go into the "spirit" of policies, etc.? You know how it works here. Also note "A distracting, confusing, or otherwise unsuitable signature may adversely affect other users. For example, some editors find that long formatting disrupts discourse on talk pages, or makes working in the edit window more difficult. Complicated signatures contain a lot of code ("markup") that is revealed in the edit window, and can take up unnecessary amounts of narrative space, which can make both reading and editing harder." in WP:SIG. I'm trying to work with you here, Cyber. Timestamps are part of signatures. Regards, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 20:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. As long as it's not stated, I stand by my point. I also am trying to make a new signature but is very difficult to do if I keep getting pinged.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,993,850) 20:10, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I have to go to work now anyway. ;-) Please continue working on a new sig, but don't use gold. That's even worse because it comes with accessibility concerns for those with poor vision or those with color blindness. Sorry for the trouble. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 20:13, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I know a lot of people that use gold in their signatures. It's better than yellow and was color suggested to me as replacement for yellow.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,995,456) 20:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

_{(talk page stalker)(edit conflict)}It is quite long in HTML, but I just ignore all signatures in the editing window and note the comments by the colons on the far left, so it has no effect. Its not particularily disrupting or awkward.--Gilderien Talk|Contribs 20:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Same for me. That's what I do too. I don't see how it's disruptive like that. Oh well. Back to working on my signature.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 521,995,456) 20:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Third time I don't mean to be a jerk, but you made the comment "you are the only one that has complained about this." Your signature has come under complaints two other times. In this version if your talk page, User:Worm That Turned brought up some concerns and in this version, you can see where User:WilliamH brought up concerns. Perhaps you should consider a less dramatic signature that draws less attention?--v/r - T P 23:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Yep, Ed's definitely not the only one, because when I saw this section I remembered back to that prior discussion with WTT where I noted there is no need to list the number of WP edits, instead using a much simpler contributions link. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 23:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Sigh. I'm already working on a new one but haven't come up with on that doesn't fit my style.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,026,613) 23:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Well what is this "WP Edits" part about? You don't have 500 million edits and I don't think Wikipedia has 500 million revisions either. Maybe you could just drop that part? There are actually gadgets to enable that tell folks how many edits others have.--v/r - T P 23:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
WP Edits is substituted from {{NUMBEROFEDITS}}. See: 1,220,654,868.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,027,553) 23:44, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Why do you need that in a signature about you? That is the number of Wikipedia edits by everyone. You've only made 5221 edits (not saying that to be mean). It seems like you're taking credit for the entirety of Wikipedia. As far as I know, there is no template for a user's personal edits.--v/r - T P 23:46, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
There is a difference between people complaining and the substance of the argument. Rather than ganging up which this has a strong impression of. He has said he is working on a new signature let him work on it. Coming back again and again does not help. it meets sig guidelines in letter maybe not in spirit which has pretty much been proven. Cyber has a lot to offer and focusing on the sig is stopping that. Saying that Cyber finish working on the new Sig and change it. The colours I'm not seeing an issue with there are plenty of colourful signatures that are as bright as yours. Shorten it and why not if possible work on creating a template to show your edit count as i think tp may have been suggesting. Edinburgh Wanderer 23:56, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I am kindly asking for you and everyone else observing to please stop. I am starting to feel harassed. I said I am working on a new signature and yes when I originally wanted a template that gives the number of edits I did but since that didn't exist, I settled for this.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,028,460) 23:50, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I'll keep an eye on this discussion and look for a new sig in the next couple days. I'm sorry that you feel harassed, but you weren't exactly being receptive to our point of view; we're just trying to nicely push you in the correct direction. No harassment is/was intended. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:12, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

No I am feeling harrassed because even though I agreed to make a new sig, I was still being barraged with comments.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,048,699) 02:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

If I can be of any help with the new sig, perhaps you could drop me a line at User:Worm That Turned/Sig Test. You know, as your future potential mentor and all ;) Worm^TT · (talk) 09:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Would it not be possible to transclude for example {{Cyberpower678/Signature}}, which had in it your status colour, talk + user page links, etc. and then {{subst:NUMBEROFEDITS}} for the record of the edit count when you made the reply, plus timestamp. That would cut right down on the number of characters, and make editing easier.--Gilderien Talk|Contribs 21:48, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Transclusions of templates are not allowed.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 522,197,070) 21:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Alright everybody, here is my very new signature with better colors. Thanks goes to User:Worm That Turned for helping me to develop the signature and user friendly.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 14:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Had quite a few discussions with Cyberpower, and I'm pleased with the result that he's come out with. Well under the 255 chars, and doesn't use excessive space either. Well done Cyberpower. Worm^TT · (talk) 14:47, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Well done, not bad at all. Very clean and clear-cut, yet 'sophisticated' with the super- and sub-scripts. I like it — and thanks for taking our comments / complaints into account. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 23:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree with SP, I like your new signature. It is very streamline in both looks and code. Well done. :) --Guerillero | My Talk 00:02, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Thank you. Some of the credit for the design goes to User:Worm That Turned as well as alternative colors to replace yellow and orange for the status indicator. The status indicator is fully automated now with the ability to override if necessary. It also cycles and changes depending on the holiday fully automatic, setup and idea for such a system comes from User:Scottywong's signature. You can view the cycle template here and the signature currently used here.—cyberpower ^Chat_Offline 00:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I really like your new signature, espially the sup/sub combo, but I noticed that you spelled absent as abscent in your blackm signature. Happy Gnoming!--Gilderien Talk|Contribs 21:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you.—cyberpower ^Soliloquize_Online 21:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)