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South Korean Badminton

Hi, I don't know if you are familiar with South Korean badminton, but if yes, I have a lot of questions to this field. A lot of data are missing, for instance in de:Südkoreanische Badmintonmeisterschaft. Also birth dates, and often it is not sure, if the Korean name is in the right order family name given-name. If you can answer these things partially, I could also send some more detailled questions. Florentyna (talk) 10:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

I am familiar, yes. The BKA has removed most of its birthdate information but it is still available in certain places. I am amazed that so much data exists on the de:Südkoreanische Badmintonmeisterschaft. The oldest data I can find from the BKA is here. I'll do what I can to fill in some blanks but if you have questions, send away. Replying here is correct? Donaldinyongin (talk) 14:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Really good stuff what you added. This is a big step to a complete list of the winners and I hope the data for South Korea will be growing like I have seen it already for Japan and Thailand. For Japan for instance I started with a really poor list [1], and now the page is a real big one plus a category of 64 pages thanks to the help of a lot of users. For the mentioned countries I have also seen, that IBF handbook and online sources can differ, and it is hard to say, what is the more reliable source. In general, there are often very few sources available for non-European and non-North-American countries. For Africa, South America, Oceania there are only for a couple of countries some results available. But also for such great badminton nations like China, Malaysia or South Korea data are heavily to obtain, often like you did only by searching in newspapers year by year. For Korea there is for me still uncelar, why there is a difference between the number of the championships and the count of the years. For instance in 1980 the championships were held for the 24th time, but listed are only 22 editions. One reason can be, that in the handbook are listed seasons, i.e. if in the handbook is written 1961, it can also be a championship from September 1960. This could lead to a slight distortion of the years, numbers and winners. Another problem you already mentioned: There are now so much different championships held in Korea, but not the original ones anymore. For Malaysia, where a similar problem persists, we used the Proton National Circuit Finals as championship, probably we should do it in a similar way for Korea, i.e. use the Pros championships as National one. I guess, I read somewhere that in 2011 the championships were held for the 54th time. This indicates, that BKA counts the championships in a similar way like I suggested in the last senstence. For a lot of countries I listed also winners of Junior, Senior, Universities and Team championships, so this could be a good direction also for South Korea - if there are data available at all. Best regards Florentyna (talk) 16:58, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

I see what you mean for the 54th. All along, Korea has had a parallel series of championships that were divided by school level, plus pro. So the name also changed. After 1998, the only national championship that had an individual event (not just team) and all divisions played (separately) was the Summer Championships. These seemed to move to June before 1974 and from 1999 onward, they kept the ordinals, so 1999 was the 42nd and so on and they played the 59th edition this past June. The overall championship changed its name and dropped the ordinals but it was played every year from 1999-2006, then again in 2009, and it hasn't been played since. I think these used to be played together at the same place and the same week in November or December. You'll notice I changed the winners for 1962 because what was shown was the list of winners of the pro division and it appears that the pros then played a playoff against the university winners or the winner of the match between high school and university, like the Thomas/Uber Cups were doing in that era. In later years, the younger players were put into the draws along with the pros, though. Now, my suspicion is that the other results for the 60s, particularly if they show mixed winners, may be the adult division (I doubt they were pro in those days) winners. Even today, school teams are never mixed and it's quite possible that in those days, only the adult division had mixed doubles.

One thing that can be added is the name change. The BKA website will give you a list of events with the name 한국배드민턴최강전 from 2000 to 2006, and 2009. I also found a news article for the 1999 edition which was the first to drop the old name and it seems there was some confusion over what to call it but it seems they had both Samsung Cup and 최강전, which is what the BKA has listed for 2000.

As for the ordinals, it does seem puzzling. When they didn't play it in 1983, there was no move in date. It went from December 1982 (26th) to December 1984 (27th). I have no data for the other skip in 1959 to 1960 so I have to trust Wikipedia to tell me it wasn't played. There was a coup d'etat in 1960 so it wouldn't surprise me. I haven't seen the IBF handbook for those years. Donaldinyongin (talk) 00:10, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

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Kim Yun-ja vs. Kim Jung-ja

Can you approve from the Korean sites, that there were in the late 80's two different players with the names Kim Yun-ja (this one is clear) and Kim Jung-ja (unclear)? For Kim Jung-ja see for instance de:Canadian Open 1987. Are there any sources about the latter one? --Florentyna (talk) 12:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, they were indeed different people. Even the Chinese characters are different. I also came across a 1985 article that mentions Kim Jung-ja as being on a high school team in Dangjin at the time, meaning she was both younger than Kim Yun-ja and from a different city, as the elder Kim graduated from Masan Sungji Girls' High School in 1982. Donaldinyongin (talk) 13:08, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

This means the redirect from Jung-ja to Yun-ja should be deleted. Donaldinyongin (talk) 13:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much. But: No deleting ;-) - I created an article for her. Could you please add there the Korean spelling, or if you know more facts about her also these facts. You can also use the talk page there and make corrections in English, or add references. --Florentyna (talk) 17:02, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Hwang Hye-youn

Are there 2 Hwang Hye-youns? See [2] with different birth date or [3].--Florentyna (talk) 08:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I screwed up. I cut and pasted a bunch of text from another article and ended up with an article that had two different birthdates, one matching the BWF records and the wikidata and de. and zh. articles and one that didn't match. I have corrected the problem. It is the same Hwang Hye-youn. --Donaldinyongin (talk) 09:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Yoon Im-soon = Yun Lim Soon?

Are these two ladies one and the same? See [4], [5] or [6]. --Florentyna (talk) 12:07, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, they are the same person. I guess I created the former Romanization, not knowing another had already been used in the IBF Handbook and in the Wikipedia article about the Asienmeisterschaft. It seems she was also part of the women's team that won the bronze at the 1970 Asian Games. Donaldinyongin (talk) 02:17, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I already guessed it. In general, the results of Asian Games and Asian Championships would be a good improvement for Wikipedia... Florentyna (talk) 20:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Date of last update

Hey, I just wanted to talk about the page BWF World Ranking. Thanks for updating the section Players with highest career rank 2–5, but please remember to change the date of the last update as well after you make your changes. Thank you!

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Noted. I don't think I had noticed the date on this section. Only on the section above. Will remember for next time. Thank you.Donaldinyongin (talk) 01:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

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South Korean names in native language on Wikidata

Hi Donaldinyongin, I hope you can help again. I collected now all missing South Korean names in native language for badminton players on Wikidata, see Wikidata:Wikidata:WikiProject Badminton/Name. If you could add there some South Korean names in native language it would be very great. Best Florentyna (talk) 07:10, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, Done. Let me know if any other changes are needed. Donaldinyongin (talk) 03:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

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Korean players at the 1997 Asian Junior championships

Hi Donaldinyongin, i just added Korean players in 1997 Asian Junior Badminton Championships. I hope you can fixing some errors that ive made. Heres the link ’97 아시아주니어배드민턴선수권대회 Thank you. Stvbastian (talk) 03:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Jung Youn-kyung and Jung Yeon-kyung

Hi Donaldinyongin, are Jung Youn-kyung and Jung Yeon-kyung different? I hope you can help. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 01:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Same player. You can see that the BKA data shows the same Samsung team membership, the same Korean name, and the same birthdate for the Jung from the Malaysia Satellite event in 2002 and the Thailand Open in 2007, even though the spellings and BWF IDs are different on tournamentsoftware. Donaldinyongin (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Kang Hae-won and Kang Hye-won.

Are they the same person? Thanks. zoglophie 11:52, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Where are you finding Kang Hye-won? On tournamentsoftware, Kang Hae-won is listed with this incorrect spelling exactly one time, at the 2009 East Asian Games but despite the spelling mistake, it is clearly the same player, according to BKA records. Have you found listings for a different Kang Hye-won? Please provide a link. Donaldinyongin (talk) 08:33, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Amazing research. Yes, in the article I made here, I entered the name Kang Hye-won. Recently I was looking up if there were more medalists from this event which are not in the article and then I found Kang Hae-won which confused me. Thanks for your hardwork! zoglophie 15:40, 15 November 2022 (UTC)