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Thank you for your help and advice. Dtj16 (talk) 21:39, 30 September 2016 (UTC)Dtj16[reply]

Serols, Thanks for letting me know. I didn't review the edits closely enough and made a mistake by saving a typo that resulted in "muElfquest" (which doesn't even make sense!). I felt the other changes I made, even though they were minor, were constructive (something about a "much-needed" change? How are we to judge what is and what isn't "much-needed?"). Anyway, I will be more careful in the future! Dtj16 (talk) 08:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Dtj16, that can happen - use always the show-preview button before you send. I deleted the warning. Regards --Serols (talk) 08:50, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2018[edit]

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Hi ScrapIronIV. Yeah, don't want to be involved in an editing war with you. I respect your expertise, but I still fail to see how what I added was a promo or hagiographic. With regards to the Modern Orthodox stuff, I provided sources. And I failed to see how the page looked like a promo. Let's chat this out, please. Thanks. Dtj16 (talk) 19:58, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As in the cited source, he openly identifies as Open Orthodox. The organ debate is cited to Wikipedia (circular reference, Wikipedia cannot use itself as a source). He is for organ donation. Great, but per WP:UNDUE; does he also kiss babies? Not at all notable to hold an accepted viewpoint. I'll bet he is also all for peace and brotherhood. No need to make the man look like a saint. This is an encyclopedia, not a promotional biography. ScrpIronIV 21:10, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I didn't mean to use Wiki as the source for the organ trade view. I was trying to have the phrase "legally sold organs" redirect to the "Scholarly Debate" section of the organ trade entry. My apologies. I'm just very confused re the Open Orthodox thing. Yes, he wrote that piece saying he was Open Orthodox, but since then, many other RSs have come out indicating that Yanklowitz is Modern Orthodox. And as I discussed and sourced on the talkpage, Yanklowitz himself has written that he's Modern Orthodox. Not trying to rock the boat here with original research or the like. It's all stuff that is out in the open and stuff that I feel makes the page more accurate, you know? As the for the "organ donation, but does he kiss babies," I'm just wondering if that's a non-sequitur, with respect that there are third-party sources indicating that he works on this issue. Isn't the fact that an orthodox rabbi is talking about paying people for their organs outside the norm, thus kinda notable for the page? I'm looking at other pages of BLPs of rabbis and there is so much more egregious stuff on there than what I contributed here. Any advice is helpful, my friend. And as I said, not looking to war with you and hope that we can get everything resolved. Thank you for your time! Dtj16 (talk) 21:32, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Editing Shmuly Yanklowitz page[edit]

Hi Dtj16, I added the section on Shmuly Yanklowitz's page about him being Open Orthodox, and I see that you reverted it. Can you explain why? You might answer that he self identifies as Modern Orthodox , but that is not an objective way of identifying someone. Just as if I identify myself as a cat, it does not define me as a cat. I can provide many detailed objective proofs and sources to back up the very obvious fact that he is Open Orthodox. Thank you.--BrightBlue613 (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)BrightBlue613 09/14/2019[reply]

Hi BrightBlue613. Thank you for writing on this page. Your definition of objectivity is nice, but that is not how Wikipedia words. Wikipedia relies on third parties to create sources. You cited sources that were not reliable in the case of Yanklowitz.I reverted your edits because they were irrelevant to the topic at hand and biased against a certain viewpoint, in this case Open Orthodoxy. Smntstatus wrote it best: "Editor has a strong anti-Open Orthodox POV and includes information irrelevant to Shmuley Yanklowitz." If you have any other concerns, I'm sure you could write to other editors. Dtj16 (talk) 19:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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