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Travel Service[edit]

G'day from Oz; there are several problems with your edits to the Travel Service (airline) article. Above all else, your edits had only had one reference, which is the destinations for SmartWings, none of the other information you added was referenced. You contend that SmartWings and Travel Service are the same; as you can see from my edits to the article (if you take the time to actually look), there is another article for SmartWings and Travel Service destinations. There is no point in having the information in two different places, especially if one contradicts the other.

As for the fleet, you state that your changes were in accordance with the Czech aircraft register, but you did not provide a reference to that information, you need to include an appropriate link to the web page on the Czech CAA website; it is not acceptable to just state it in an edit summary, especially when there are other sources provided in the article that state something different. Now according to the SmartWings website, the 737-700s are in its fleet; if they are in the SmartWings fleet then they cannot be in the Travel Service fleet. The same is true of B738s on lease to other airlines - if they are on lease to other airlines, they are in those airlines' fleets, they are not in Travel Service's fleet. There is even a hidden note (which you ignore), "do not include aircraft on lease to other airlines". This is standard for airline fleet information. If you look at the changes I made to the fleet table, you will notice that I added a note to say that seven more Travel Service B738s are on lease to other airlines. Leasing in the airline industry is so commonplace that the details are not worth mentioning.

Your obviously copied-and-pasted your version of the separate fleet table for the bizjets and it had mistakes. You copied the references, but Planespotters has no information about Citation Sovereigns in its page about Travel Service. One of the Sovereigns is actually a Sovereign+. You also had a fleet total of six. I fixed all of those problems in my edits, and you undid those fixes.

Other information I removed was not referenced in any way; you added it back. If an aircraft is used for a luxury around-the-world tour every year, it needs to be referenced. Unreferenced material "is likely to be removed from the article" by anybody at any time. Have you read Wikipedia:Citing sources?

As I noted above, you contend that SmartWings and Travel Service are the same. On Wikipedia we have two articles for the two companies. If you think this is not the right way to have the information, if you think there should only be one article, then open a discussion about merging them together on the Talk page for one of the articles.

A general rule for Wikipedia (which is one I did not understand when I started editing in 2007) is that it does not matter what you know about a subject, you must have a source to back it up. Back then, I added a lot of content about Australian airlines that I "knew" from reading magazines or talking to friends or that I just gathered myself while working; most of my 'hard work' of many hours was removed, until I learned that what I was told by my friend who worked for Qantas could not be added until it was reliably reported somewhere else. In your case, saying "from the airline" in an edit summary is not good enough. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 00:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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