User talk:Grinner/Archive01

Being the first archive of discussions at User talk:Grinner.

Hey Grinner

Great job your doing on Rugby League feel free to use any pictures/photos from the brothers website for wikipedia purposes anything else send me a message and you should be able to use them http://www.brothers.com.au

Hills

You're doing a great job with the Scottish hills: very nice descriptions and photos of Blaven, Liathach, Beinn Eighe, and others. Thank you. Gdr 12:30, 2004 Jul 22 (UTC)

Cheers, I will continue to create hill pages, maybe even the odd English one! Grinner 13:18, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the List of Munros! I was thinking we needed that. (Though it does remind me just how many I have yet to climb :-) ) --David Edgar 11:36, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Maps -- Hello G, thanks for your kind words. Glad you like the contours. Thruston 13:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

History of rugby league

Nice job on your creation of History of Rugby League BUT I think that the page History of Rugby Football should contain any details: See my comments on Talk:Rugby_football#disambiguation:

If Wikipedia is to be a credible alternative encyclopaedia, then discrepancies (error) matter. The more pages containing the same information the more work in maintain them and the greater the chance that errors will creep in. This is why I think we should reduce the paragraphs to summaries if they are described in detail on other pages and those pages should be included as easily accessible links.

So I would like to make History of Rugby Football a disambiguated page.

It is probably better that you reply there so that others who have an interest in this can see the conversation. Philip Baird Shearer 13:45, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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The international section in the Hrl page is most interesting. What I do not know, and I think would be interesting to see on that page, is how did all the diffrent national bodies on diffrent sides of the world, co-ordinate changes in the code so that they played the same game. For example 15 to 13 men is a very big change and there must have been at the very least an exchange of letters. As you say this [had to be] in place for the Kiwi RL tourist's visits to Aus and GB Philip Baird Shearer

I agree, and have added a bit that tries to explains it.Grinner 10:54, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)

Hill categories renamed

I renamed my wrongly-named sub-categories of Category:Hills: thus the old Category:Munro_(hill) is now Category:Munros and so on. I believe I moved all the articles so they are in the right categories. Gdr 17:02, 2004 Aug 16 (UTC)

NotedGrinner 15:36, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)

Marilyns or not

Not Sure If these are Marilyns or not but please check out Pendle Hill Clougha Pike Grit Fell Wolfhole Crag Parlick along with the hills I havn't got round to yet on the Forest of Bowland page. Cheers

User:Soloist 13:22 06/09/04

Good work! If they are not marilyns there is still the general category of "Category:Hills", and the infobox always look good on a page in my opinion, so I'll add it to all of them.Grinner 12:28, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)

Cheers, They do look alot better with the Infobox, Good work Soloist 2:23, Sept 6, 2004 (BST)

Rugby League County Champions

Hi. It's always nice to find that somebody reads what you write.

I've got a copy of 'A people's game The Official History of Rugby League' so finding the info wasn't too difficult.

Accoring to the book the Yorkshire / Lancashire leagues didn't start until 1907/8 although from 1896/7 to 1900/01 competitions called the Yorkshire Senior Competition / Lancashire Senior Competition were played instead. I think there needs to be a footnote to this effect like I did for the Eastern Divisions / Western Divisons.

I'm not sure what happened in 1905/6 or 1906/7. The book doesn't mention county leagues nor were the two divisions played. In 1895/6 it simply says that Manningham were champions, there is no mention of county leagues or of Runcorn.

Liverpool S=Liverpool Stanley. Yes I thought so but didn't want to put anything that was inaccurate.

Cheers

GordyB 17:32, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You got all the data from club sites! That's heroic!

If the County League was played 1905/7 then perhaps it had a different name. My reference book is clear that the Yorkshire and Lancashire leagues started in 1907 though it treats the Senior Competitions and the Eastern / Western Divisions as different from the County Leagues.

It is a bit odd that a large book would not mention a major Y / L competition but it also does not say that no such competition was played for. I'll have a google and see what I find.

I checked Runcorn were Lancashire champions just as your table said but they won the title from a play-off with Oldham after finishing level, that's why my data source seem to treat it differently

GordyB 16:17, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Bleaklow

My dim recollection is that Bleaklow (and specifically Bleaklow Stones 2060') is the most Easterly 2000-footer in England. Can you confirm? Linuxlad

To add to that - if we look at tops, the 2088 point on Kinder is certainly West of the 2060 point on Bleaklow Head, but only by 500m or so - but I think the statement I read was that there was no land over 2000ft in England East of that on Bleaklow (ie that at GR119964); and certainly this looks true for the 'Dark Peak' area - I shan't hurry to edit (I've already been caught out once this week, over Peveril Castle :-))

Did you know has been updated

And your article Braeriach is now on the front page (with a picture). Enjoy! [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 19:44, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Rugby League National Leagues

I added the see also section back into the page as I believe that part of its purpose is to guide people who aren't particularly knowledgeable about RL to related pages. I've changed which pages are included in the see also as the most of the ones which you removed are now unnecessary due to the templates and weren't particularly linked to the National Leagues.GordyB 00:09, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ok fair enough.Grinner 10:15, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

Syntax

I'm just wondering, given your recent edits at Exilarch: what is supposed to be the problem with using a left square bracket as a normal character? Why put a nowiki element around it when it doesn't need one? There has been a lot of this lately. Is it a new standard? If so, where is it documented? -- Jmabel | Talk 19:03, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

It didn't mess anything up, it's just a little weird when one perfectly good style is changed to another perfectly good style. Sort of like when people change UK spelling to US spelling or vice versa. -- Jmabel | Talk 10:20, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Hills infobox / maps

Hello!

I like your hills info-boxes, but I was wondering if there was some sort of template for them, so that other people can more easily add them to pages? I'm not sure exactly how to go about making one of these myself, but if it's an interesting idea to you I'd happily help working it out.

Also, I'd prefer if you changed the OS Map thing to read OS Landranger map. Personally I almost always used the Pathfinder and now the Explorer series and was regularly driven nuts by books and articles giving the "OS reference" as something like "Map 75, 345234" or the like, which was not too much help in tracking things down! Although you have the proper OS references (with the letters that some folks often miss out) it would still be nice to show that there are other kinds of OS maps, especially since they seem to be pushing the Explorer series much more than they ever did the Pathfinders. Also, while the Pathfinders had numbers like NS80/90 and the like, the Explorers just have numbers the same as (but not corresponding to) the Landranger ones. Obviously there's a lot more of them too!

If this seems like a sensible idea then I'll help out by changing ones I come across, but I thought it would be helpful if we could agree to use the same format etc.

Cheers, — PMcM 18:13, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[From User talk:Pmcm]: A template would be nice, but I don't know how to go about making one! I'm quite happy to see Landranger added to the boxes, though obviously this would take quite a bit of work. If you start, I'll join in! Grinner 09:02, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

Cool! I'll get to it. Are most of them in the Marylins/Corbetts/Munros categories? — PMcM 17:33, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hey. I've managed to do all the Marylins in Scotland from A–B (which is a lot more than it sounds, with all those Ben's!). Also, I came across a project (Wikipedia:WikiProject Mountains) which we might be able to borrow some ideas from. I'm not sure it would work very well to just put all the ones you have been working on under that project, as I'm not sure they all qualify as 'mountains' as such, and the UK format of hills (with OS references etc.) would probably annoy them. :)

Also possibly helpful is this page—Wikipedia:Infobox templates—which I think explains how to make templates.

Possibly there is scope for making a sub-project of Mountains as Hills of the UK or something. — PMcM 18:46, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hey! Template looks good. I'll try using it sometime tomorrow if I get some time. Do you think it would be a good idea to have metres and feet linked in the infobox? I'll try to get around to Landranger-ing some more hills sometime too. Cheers, — PMcM 23:03, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

That's all looking very cool now. I'll not get a chance to do much editing until Monday though. I'll try to make a go of working through the Marylins then or something. Well done on the template! — PMcM 16:11, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Infobox comments

Thanks for the heads up. Been a little busy lately. Made some suggestions, hopefully helpful ones!! — PMcM 21:06, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Big Pink Yorkshire

I can't find any evidence of this thing's existence, nor of its alleged founder Christopher John Proud. What's your source? --Calton | Talk 01:31, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't a clue what your talking about!Grinner 12:35, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Chain of Reasoning

• Big Pink Yorkshire created 17 March by User:128.240.229.7
• Christopher John Proud created 17 March by User:128.240.229.7

• User:128.240.229.7's contribution on 5 March to User talk:BigmouthRobin, just before the above:

Great picture of Suilven, it inspired me to 
write an article about it! [emphasis mine] But you nedd to
add the approriate image tag to the image page: 
Image:Suilven.JPG so that we know what the
copyright situation is. There's more info about
that here: Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags.
Cheers, and I'd love to see you uploading moer
piccies of hill like this! 128.240.229.7 14:20, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Creator of Suilven on 4 March: User:Grinner; that is, you.

• Therefore, User:128.240.229.7 = User:Grinner.

QED. --Calton | Talk 01:53, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but as I have stated, I a variety of open computer at Newcastle University. This page was created by another student, using a computer I have used at some point.Grinner 14:30, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

GlenCoe (Glencoe?)

Thanks for your reverts on Massacre of Glencoe (and general coe/Coe pedantry! :) ). There's an anonymous user promoting a very "tartan shortbread tin" version of events, and I was getting a bit sick of the whole thing. I've got hold of the roll-call of names of soldiers involved which I'll post up somewhere if they revert it again.

Incidentally, what are you studying at Newcastle? I did marine biology there five(ish) years ago (I feel so old now!). Cheers. Anilocra 11:17, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Forests and woodlands of the United Kingdom

Depends whether people might find it useful to find deer forests in that category. I don't mind either way - I was just categorising some forests and woodlands. Man vyi 11:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi Grinner

Nice job you're doing with the Cumbrian hills (infoboxes etc.), cheers. (User:James6848)