User talk:Half-full81

October 2014

Hello, I'm Luxure. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Chris Joannou because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Luxure (talk) 09:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

October 2015

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Geographical name changes in Greece

I do not question the validity of your initiative to change the introduction of the article in general, but take in mind that each change needs to be backed by wp:reliable sources. If you have right now not access to a digital library I can help you with that. Feel free to mesage me.Alexikoua (talk) 15:14, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Geographical name changes in Greece

Hello, Please read the current revision and notify me where it lacks sources. If so I will add sources. In my opinion the existing sources and the links I added fully support the edits. I also accept your kind offer regarding the digital library you mentioned.

Thank you Half-full81 (talk) 11:43, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, i've read the version you proposed [[1]], thus I'm carefully checking the parts in question (there were no inlines the -cn- tag is added by me):

1. It should be taken into account on one hand the fact that the regions Greece incorporated after the 1821 Greek War of Independence, the Balkan Wars and World War II, were historically Greek regions, and on the other hand that, as most theories propose, the creation of the Nation state was the dominant idea and a 19th - early 20th century European phenomenon.
2. The geographical name change in Greece was an initiative by the early Greek governments after the Greek independence, in order to restore the original ancient Greek toponyms and replace the non-Greek geographical and topographic names (that mostly Ottoman and partly the Slav and Albanian occupiers of Greece were using) within Greece, with Greek names as part of a policy and ideology of Hellenization.

Both parts need inline reference (as I've placed above) and they were reverted primarily because of this. Unfortunately even if the correspondent articles are stuffed with sources as you claim, we need to provide those source on each article again as inline reference. Moreover, it would be also better to rephrase historically Greek regions with regions inhabited by Greek populations since antiquity and Slav and Albanian occupiers to S. and A. populations.

I hope I offered some help with this issue. Fell free to post to my talkpage whenever you are need some piece of advice... and the most important wish you a happy new year.Alexikoua (talk) 18:33, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

A general issue I want to address is that repeated reverts in a specific article can provoke admin intervention. For example during the last months there were several blocks of users that pushed a pro-Albanian pov. Take in mind that this kind of editors usually target articles such as Northern Epirus and are in desperate need to recruit their compatriots, -co-ordinating their efforts even off-wiki via email- in order to increase their firepower against such articles (a typical example: [[2]]).Alexikoua (talk) 18:50, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Alexikoua: nice your reading my talkpage. However i have and can justify over and over again the multiple issues with the Northern Epirus article (of which you stopped engaging in a process to bring it up to quality) and can do so in front of the admins when the time comes if there is any dodgy behavior (i.e: making up policy etc). I am becoming more aware of the rules. Northern Epirus will be addressed and made to comply with Wikipedia standards wp:reliable and wp:secondary like the Souliots article. As for my comments on MY talkpage after people came to message me and not the other way around, i gave them advice and not to waste their time with issues like Alex the great's "heritage". My comments in no way contravene policy. All articles must adhere to peer reviewed material, even if its to your dislike. I also offered assistance to that user if they so chose to send them material and had nothing to do with Northern Epirus. My citing of Northern Epirus was with another editor, who is also engaging in time wasting behavior on articles of no consequence and had nothing to do with email. The same way you have offered assistance to this editor by offering to send them material. Am i to infer that there is some kind of underhanded behavior going on in that offer of assistance. See: wp:civil. However, if you think my comments "do have issues", there are forums where you can take your concerns. By the way, i have not been blocked on any article. Ever. Thankyou.19:14, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

(ignore trolling) @Half-full81: In general initiatives like screaming editors in need to recruit -only- co-nationals is one of the principal values to avoid in wikipedia.Alexikoua (talk) 22:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Alexikoua:, I advise you of wp:civil. Referring to editors comments as "screaming" is indicative of not perusing good faith apart from the very serious allegations written here. You are making very serious accusations against my person on other peoples talkpage. I placed this talkpage on my watchlist some days ago(and considering your commentary towards me with good reason) as this editor was warned my other editors of good and impartial standing(i.e Macrakis) about undertaking edits to the article about geographical changes that has POV wording. Editor Macrakis went to much lengths to make the lede wording neutral. And i will be observing on that article the matter as of such time due to the significance of it. Moreover, do you care to explain these allegations regarding me here ? If you think i have in some way contravened Wikipedia policy, please take you concerns to the appropriate forums where each can outline their case and those accused can answer their accuser, as is the proper protocol on Wikipedia. Thank you.Resnjari (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

The concept to call for a national agenda (i.e. call your compatriots to concetrate their efforts to article X which is of vital national importants) is disruptive and there should be avoided. Most important: It's one of the principles of this projects to avoid this kind of disruption. Resnjari, at least I expect you post the same text you posted in wp:Albania to wp:Greece and all related projects too, else you are making a clear distinction between co-national editors vs rest.Alexikoua (talk) 22:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I placed the matter on the forum talkpage board where such topics are meant to be discussed. I am not on Wikiproject Greece. Each has different areas where the talk is located. Place the link for the Greek one here. Also you say other boards (talkpages forums etc), list them and i will add them, the more the better.Resnjari (talk) 22:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

For future reference "I am not on Wikiproject Greece." isn't an excuse to limit your declarations in wp:Albania. If there is issue is related to projects XYZ a neutral user would have posted the same text to all those projects. On the other hand a non-neutral with a clear pov agenda prefers to avoid limit his posts, even he is kindly asked to do that.Alexikoua (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I am not limiting anything. I am in the process of doing it as we speak or write. Note, i began placing the information within just over an hour apart for two forums. To soon to say that the matter is not being addressed. Note also: i also placed the relevant issue on the Albanian-Greek noticeboard first. So again don't resort to accusations. Wait a while and then see what happens.Resnjari (talk) 23:10, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Done for the Greek page [3]. Which other forum talkpages? You said there are more that i need to do at. List them. Otherwise i do this after the new year thing, (day after).Resnjari (talk) 23:16, 30 December 2015 (UTC)