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architects

This is an awful lot of good work you're doing. Lockley (talk) 18:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much, honestly. It's nice to get recognition. JPRiley (talk) 04:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

You might find the architects mentioned here of interest. I see you have created a page for one of them http://www.torringtonhistoricalsociety.org/architectural-drawings.html Buckyboot (talk) 07:07, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

William R. Walker (architect)

Nice work on William R. Walker (architect). I'll see if I can add a bit to him. One little thing: Intro says he was from Providence, but the bio says he lived most of his life in Pawtucket. So I think that means the intro is wrong? I think the distinction is important. - Kzirkel (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I chose to say that he was a Providence architect because that is where his firm's office always was. Pawtucket was where he lived, and he would have commuted. JPRiley (talk) 18:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

George C. Mason & Son

Thanks for writing this article. I did the individual pages on father & son but it didn't occur to me to create a separate page for the firm.Alafarge (talk) 15:09, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

How to reach you about an inquiry?

Hi JP,

I plan on writing about Saratoga Springs' Universal Preservation Hall, and I see that you've edited the article in regards to the building's architecture. I'm interested in asking you some questions about the subject if you have the time and inclination.

Thanks,

Coleman Colemanakey (talk) 17:09, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Right here is fine, I'm happy to help. JPRiley (talk) 19:58, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Alaska architects/Manley & Mayer

To echo the first comment on this page, great work. Just a few things, though. Most importantly, the expansion of coverage of Alaska is quite extensive for not even acknowledging Edwin Butler Crittenden. Is there something I'm missing? I wouldn't consider him to be as notable as Linn Forrest, but certainly a lot more notable than most Alaska-based architects, including many of those you've been writing about. Also, a number of the years you list in the Manley & Mayer article appear to conform to when construction began, not when the building was completed. Is this supposed to reflect when design occurred? If so, this should be clarified, because to the uninitiated, those years may contradict other available information about those buildings. The Municipality of Anchorage has its property records online, which may help, including offering information about the Commerce and Simpson buildings. Denali Elementary, along with Nordale Elementary, were torn down and replaced with new buildings a little over a decade ago. I'm not sure what "Woodland Park Elementary School (Old)" refers to. I know for sure that it hasn't been a school in a long time: it's currently the state headquarters and main Anchorage facility for the Boys & Girls Club. I'm not sure whether they're in the 1954 building, as it could have been torn down and rebuilt following the earthquake or possibly later. Also, the "North Terminal" at Anchorage International confused me. There was only one terminal when I first lived in Anchorage in the late 1970s, though it was obviously built in several disjointed segments. The pre-1970s portions were demolished in the 1990s/2000s reconstruction projects. "North Terminal" typically refers to the current terminal where international arrivals/departures take place, also frequently known by its original name, the "Satellite Terminal". That was built in the early or mid 1980s. Speaking of the 1980s, the statement "A number of their Anchorage buildings were demolished during the population boom of the 1980s" may need tweaking. Those years didn't see a population boom so much as it did a building boom, as there were multiple waves of in/outmigration throughout the 1970s and 1980s. Anchorage's real population boom occurred when the military bases were built and for a number of years afterward. Things crashed hard a few years after the early 80s building boom and many folks left. Anna MacKinnon's husband has been heard recently on political advertising talking about people leaving the keys behind in their houses and leaving town in droves, a statement not quite as hyperbolic as it may appear on the surface (Extreme Conditions by John Strohmeyer can back this up, for one). Anyway, most of the demolition was on account of major investments by oil-related interests plus "Project 80s", a major public works campaign conducted by the MOA during the Sullivan and Knowles administrations. I spent my earlier years in Anchorage living in the neighborhood along I Street between 6th and 9th avenues. That neighborhood pretty much disappeared in one fell swoop in 1983 to make way for the ARCO Tower, the Hunt Building and associated parking. Finally, I've been scanning publications which have fallen out of copyright in recent weeks and have period photos of a number of these buildings. The folks on Commons have proven to be of zero help for what to do about the burden that is Upload Wizard, but I think I might have figured out on my own that there's a more palatable interface. Now I just have to find the time it would take to crop and upload what's getting to be a rather substantial queue. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 07:18, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Ditto on the nice work part! I got an alert about the Manley & Mayer article because it connected to the Linn A. Forrest one, which I had started. I put in a reciprocal note there to the one you wrote, i.e. inferred that L.A.F. had Manley & Mayer as associates on the 1959 building, and copied your source to there, but without access / without consulting it. Could you possibly please check what I added there for accuracy? And if you had time it would be great if you'd add more. Either way, thanks, and keep up the good work! --doncram 00:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Having dug a little deeper, it appears that the Manley & Mayer (1959) version of the project was a no-go: I found a reference in the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner from the groundgreaking (1962, apparently), that only lists Forrest's office as designers, as does Hoagland's book. I'll fix that on both pages. JPRiley (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Miller & Beal

Thanks for the nice article on Miller & Beal. Until now, I had no idea that Wells Junior High School apparently has at least two identical siblings: the schools in Cape Elizabeth and Tewksbury. Do you know if there are (or were) any other schools that used the same design? 64.185.129.173 (talk) 20:01, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

The Cape Elizabeth and Tewksbury schools are the only ones I've found, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were others scattered around the state.JPRiley (talk) 23:46, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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West Presbyterian Church (New York City)

Thank you for your valuable contribution! Vzeebjtf (talk) 00:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Charles Bevins attribution

JPRiley: Impressive work. Your attribution of 24 Emerson Road, Jamestown, RI to Bevins cites "American Architect and Building News", 14 August, 1897. I have read that issue and do not see a Bevins or Jamestown reference. "Historic and Architectural Resources of Jamestown, Rhode Island" cites a possible attribution of the house to Creighton Withers, which seems more likely stylistically than Bevins. Can you help on this attribution? Thanks for all you have done. James Buttrick68.109.23.49 (talk) 01:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

On page xvi, fourth item under "houses". Best, JPRiley (talk) 22:06, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Eiford v. Alford

Can you telp me the source for this change? I am working on Draft:Frank O. Weary. Also seems.to be spelled Alvord.. Thanks. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:29, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

The named partners in Weary & Alford were Edwin Delos Weary and William Hedley Alford, as per directories and other sources, especially the article "Weary & Alford in New Quarters," Bankers Monthly, July 1919, 36. That source notes that Weary was an Akron native, and Frank Orlando Weary, Smith-Weary Chronology: Chronological Story of an Old Line Patriotic Pioneer, All-American Family With a Historic Published Record Extending Back Two Full Centuries (Akron, OH: 1921): 17. indicates that Frank O. and Edwin D. were brothers - and Frank O. had no involvement in Weary & Alford. Eiford and Alvord are both typos and refer to Alford. Best,JPRiley (talk) 21:47, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Great!!! Thanks. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Chase R. Whitcher

Moin, JPRiley. I see you have Chase R. Whitcher under construction and was wondering if you might be so kind and notify me once you're done, because I might just want to steal your work and cobble a stub together at the de:wp. I'm not certain if such would stand the trial of deletion hell (that's a de:wp thing), but I've The Balsams on my might-do-it-perhaps-even-sometimes-soon-list, and Whitcher appears to be responsible for one of the more significant buildings there. Regards, --G-41614 (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

I think it makes more sense for me to finish it up and publish it, and then you come in and add the info you have. Doing it the way you describe sounds like it could cause problems and I'd like to avoid that. In that case I can still let you know when it is out in the world. Not sure on a timeline but I am trying to finish up some of my WIPs so hopefully soon? But who's to say. Best, JPRiley (talk) 15:56, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

I was waiting for it to be reviewed to let you know this, but it hasn't been yet. Chase R. Whitcher is in mainspace now. I added a little more about the Balsams than I had last you saw. Best, JPRiley (talk) 17:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Sorry, took me a while to get back to you. Most of the time I get geo-blocked or something like that when I try to edit en:wp. --G-41614 (talk) 12:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

And another apology - I got nothing to add to your work, unfortunately. If I had, I would have added it once you moved your article to the mainspace just like you suggested. Now that you did, I might, at some point in the future, given time etc., use the sources you so kindly researched and provided and do an article at the german-language Wikipedia. Or just have yours imported and translate it. Suffice to say should I ever find anything suitable to add, I shall do so. --G-41614 (talk) 12:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you!

Hello, JPRiley,

I just deleted the User pages you tagged for speedy deletion and stumbled into all of the work you've done on Wikipedia on the subject of architects and architecture. Thank you so much for your contributions! We have a surplus of editors working on some subjects like military history and politics while subjects like the ones you focus can really be impacted by a few competent and experienced editors who really are well-informed about their fields.

My only question after looking at all of your articles you've created on your User page is that there don't seem to be many female architects listed. I'm sure they were excluded from the profession a hundred years ago but there must be some from the 20th century, no? They must have some interesting lives worth reading about. Thanks again for all of the work you do for the project! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:00, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition, I always appreciate it! I do what I can. I do have a few in-progress articles about woman architects, though I agree I've not done much. I know there has been a concerted effort on wikipedia to make sure notable women have been represented, and I find that as this point most of the time I come across a potentially notable woman architect from the 19th/20th centuries, someone has already gotten to that task.

Of those that I do have in progress, Eleanor Larrabee was I think notable for both her architectural and preservation work, and Genevieve Lacey was a member of the notable Lacey family of architects, though I am not sure of her own notability, as I can find barely any information on her besides her vague involvement in the family firm. There are a few others in my own geographical area, like Frances Henley and Maude Darling-Parlin, that I'd like to fill out as well, as they are pretty thin currently. Adeline C. Kelley, a Bridgeport CT architect, might also be a candidate for an article if I can find more about her (I have very little). It is interesting that many of these early women architects, like Lacey, Darling and Kelley all came into architecture through their families. Women who were able to start practices on their own like Julia Morgan and Josephine Wright Chapman seem much rarer.

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Hi– I agree about the usefulness of these sources. When I was originally putting the draft together back in Nov/Dec I did come across a couple of relevant articles in Catholic Historian but (incorrectly) thought I did not have JSTOR access to did not use them. I now know I can get to them through the Boston Public Library, so I think I will go back and see what would be useful to add.

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Clair W. Ditchy

Hi JPRiley, I am a grandson of Clair W. Ditchy. I'm very excited to see this Wikipedia entry. I thank you very much and know the recognition for my grandfather is well deserved. Clair W. Ditchy's only surviving child, Lanie, has extensive archives of the life and work of her father Clair W. Ditchy. I also have photos that might be of interest in building a more comprehensive historical record of the life and work of Clair W. Ditchy. Is a continued dialogue on this topic one that you and Kj cheetham would welcome? Very sincerely, jcgannon Jcgannon (talk) 20:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi– I would welcome this but it is important to remain within the limits of the Wikipedia No original research policy, which does not allow the addition of any material for which there is no published source. However, some things like lists of works/publications/talks etc. for which there are likely other sources (somewhere) would be welcome. In particular I was missing any projects at all from the last decade of his life, and I always like to include a picture to go along with the name, which can be difficult when considering copyright, for example. Outside of replying here, I can be contacted through the "Email this user" option on the right.

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Hi Onel5969, I have to say I don't really understand what was wrong with this article when it was published. I believe that the facts of the article reasonably indicate notablility: service as president of the AIA, which governs standards for architectural practice, and of NAAB, which governs education, as well as a long-running practice which produced a number of notable buildings. I did not realize that the tag you added to the article when you reviewed it indicated a timed event, and I focused on other in-progress drafts. Nonetheless I will take a look and add some new sources, I have some ideas for ones that can be added. I have created many articles with no issue- after I make these changes am I obligated to use the AfC system?

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Hi. No, you are not obligated to use AfC. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

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Clarendon Street Baptist Church

Hi, you included Clarendon Street Baptist Church as a work of Abel C. Martin sourced to "The New Rowe Street Church", Boston Daily Advertiser, November 2 1868, which I can't check. I found two sources saying the architect was Samuel J. F. Thayer, any idea which is correct?

• Smith, Margaret Supplee; Card, Richard O. (2004). "Tour 2. Boston's South End". In Petronella, Mary Melvin (ed.). Victorian Boston Today: Twelve Walking Tours. Boston: Northeastern University Press. pp. 20–21.
• Naomi Miller,; Keith N. Morgan (1990). Boston Architecture, 1975-1990. Prestel. p. 177.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

TSventon (talk) 20:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi @TSventon, The church was originally designed while Martin and Thayer were working as partners. However, it looks like it was finished after they split up, and the later attributions to Thayer alone are probably because he would have completed it without Martin. I think I will go back and revise the lists of works on Martin and Thayer's own pages, which are not totally clear on the attribution of works done by the partnership. I would say, perhaps, "designed by Martin & Thayer, completed by Samuel J. F. Thayer."

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