User talk:L31 G0NG L41

September 2009

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Guangdong. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. HkCaGu (talk) 15:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Canton dialect. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. HkCaGu (talk) 15:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Guangzhou. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. HkCaGu (talk) 15:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User talk:HkCaGu. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Everyone everywhere (except you) who have seen any map published before 1949 will see that Canton is the city of Guangzhou and not the province of Guangdong/Kwangtung. Your blindness to simple historical facts is absolutely ridiculous. Your personal attacks cannot be tolerated on Wikipedia! HkCaGu (talk) 15:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did to Guangzhou, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. HkCaGu (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

look, your postal map is not "evidence which refutes truth" ban me from the wiki, i dont care, they are going to either ban me or you over guangzhou, but as I doubt you could live without the wiki, and I and most respectable people never even read the wiki because of people like you, we'll go ahead and let you have your way, and, for the record, anyone reading this ever should never pay any attention to anything written on wikipedia, it is all bullcrap from written by the worlds most incompetent and arrogant people.

Please stay cool and have a look at WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 16:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

it sounds good in theory, but what do you do when people like HkCaGu keep spamming vandalism with their incorrect information while refusing to discuss the changes, with a belief that he his right? its just mind-boggling. if Guangzhou wasn't such an international hub of Commercial trade with many high level corporate leaders from the world's largest corporations arriving here daily, I would let him go ahead and tell everyone to call guangzhou Canton. But I assure you, I speak for the entire Expat community in China and anyone thinking of coming to China, that this guys posts do nothing but serve his own egotistical psychosis

Please, that's enough. You can comment on contributions without attacking the contributor. You can take a look at WP:3O if you want to solicit other opinions on the article. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 16:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Please now see no original research and WP:3RR. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 16:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

To clarify, are you saying Guangzhou was never called Canton, or is not called Canton now? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

i reposted what is not "original thought" but is simply "thought" and truth. it is unrefutable. the facts are as follows:

1. Guangzhou was called Canton by imperical Westerners

2. Canton is actually the name of the Province Guangdong

3. The usage of Canton was an "English" name for Guangzhou, and not a romanization of Guangzhou

4. Canton became one popular usage in Hong Kong in those days

5. it would never be called Canton by any Westerner who was Linguistically knowledgable or fluent enough to know the Cantonese language, hence, it must have been named by people with no Cantonese language skill whatsoever

6. It was then used as a means of letting those early foreigners understand the pronunciation of places and was written on a postal map, acccording to the teachings of foreigners

7. Chinese never had romanization and would not have understood what it read anyhow

8. It was written for the understanding fof foreigners

9. Anyone Chinese who did understand it wrote it for the understanding of foreigners

10. Canton is not, and never will be the name of Guangzhou

11. its totally misleading in todays international global environment where China is the main hub of commerce and people fly here for work several times a week from around the world and nobody has a 1940's postal map.--L31 G0NG L41 (talk) 17:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Are you ok with the current version? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

it needs an explanation as to why the city was called by the name of the province, and why that might get confusing for people.--L31 G0NG L41 (talk) 17:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

because honestly, ONLY a few white people called it that, and their indian servants perhaps. it has always been Canton the province for Millions upon millions of Chinese overseas, who call Canton home. Its the actual name, and while foreigners have stopped calling Guangzhou "Canton", it is and will always be "Canton" in Cantonese and it will always mean Guangdong.--L31 G0NG L41 (talk) 17:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Guangzhou, you will be blocked for vandalism. Do NOT delete other people's comments. NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I've never "deleted" anyones comments from the "talk pages". check again

Or are you just posting more lies and propaganda?

You may have done it by accident - see [1]. If so, please be more careful. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

who knows.. what was it? can u repost it? i guess it was probably because i always select all and copy text before I submit, if there is an error (like multiple edits) I simply paste what I just copied, I will probably just start copying my own text instead

I already have. Click on the link here. Most of the page was wiped. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

so your question was "prove that canton = guangdong"? you know, its those kind of questions that dont make any sense. are you surronded by 100 million people who say so? I am.. thats like me asking you to provide evidence that "Bon Jour = hello" theres a million online translators. that is not "referenced" material

Bonjour = hello is not being disputed. If it was, I would provide these references: [2], [3] --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 19:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

no you wouldnt, because nobody could dispute it. sheer ignorance is not a reason for a citation. Bon Jour cannot be disputed. Its French. what could you possbly dispute, and who in their right mind would listen to you? they would simply laugh you aside. anyway, wikipedia should ban the linking to other websites, as the internet is not some sort of legitimate soource of information and require links to only paperback books. Making wikipedia an accumulation of web info where everything is "proven" by linking to other websites is the reason its such a worthless piece of crap. Furthermore, you would have to have a talking dictionary as romanizations vary radically from one ignorant bigot to another. what is there to argue? i really dont get it, and Im sure nobody else gets it either. you are being discriminitory as you would never demand someone to "prove" the pronunciation and definition of a word in any European language. its derogatory. how are you going to "prove" Bonjour means hello if it isnt even written in the roman language? 广东， there, thats your word, those are your characters, they make different sounds all over China, but the sound for them in the actual language of 广东 is the only one anyoneone needs to be concerned with. it is 广东， thats what it is. and its all it will ever be. the fact that you cant read it is a product of being linguistically ignorant in the matter. but it cannot be "proven" anymore than 中国 can be "proven", it is what it is. and can only be twisted and distorted into anything else. such is the nature of languages. in fact, Bon Jour doesnt even mean Hello, it means Bon Jour. which is not Hello.

You could simply link back to wikipedia Guangdong to see that Kwangtung, which was slanderously edited but used to explain clearly and simply why Kwangtun, Koangtun, Kuangtun, Kuanton, Kanton, Canton are all the same thing, (in british pronuciation, Canton is pronounced like Kwantun, and not the American sounding "CAN (of tuna) - TAHN")

WQA

Hello, L31 G0NG L41. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:L31_G0NG_L41. Thank you. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 03:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been temporarily blocked for your long history of disruptive edits. You are welcome to come back when the block expires, but please try to cooperate with others according to our policies and guidelines. Thank you. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Question

What was this all about? [[4]]Abce2|This isnot a test 02:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for repeated abuse of editing privileges. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Blueboy96 04:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

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